Is GAL just letting anyone in? What ECNL should have done

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Anonymous wrote:13 ECNL winner - Loudoun
14 ECNL winner - VDA
15 ECNL Winner - SC United
16 ECNL Winner - Richmond
17 ECNL Winner - BRYC
19 ECNL Winner - Mclean

4 of the 6 conference winners are NoVa teams. The talent is in the area. It is spread around different clubs in different age groups. To say Northern VA clubs are the weakest in the MA conference is False


Ummm, Richmond doesn’t count but nice try.
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Anonymous wrote:13 ECNL winner - Loudoun
14 ECNL winner - VDA
15 ECNL Winner - SC United
16 ECNL Winner - Richmond
17 ECNL Winner - BRYC
19 ECNL Winner - Mclean

4 of the 6 conference winners are NoVa teams. The talent is in the area. It is spread around different clubs in different age groups. To say Northern VA clubs are the weakest in the MA conference is False


Every last place team is a NoVA club.
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Anonymous wrote:The number of last place teams is almost completely balanced by the number of first place teams in NoVA. If anything, the distribution is bathtub shaped with a more than normal number of first and last place teams. Those first and last place teams are distributed across all age groups too, so there are no generalizations to be made about age groups. It stands to reason that the area is diluted in general, but that would also include some of the NoVA EDP teams. Regardless, the argument that NoVA ECNL teams in MA are weak cannot be made based on this years standings. I am not about to do this, but a better indicator of ECNL vs EDP strength might come from stacking up the head to head records of NoVA ECNL clubs against EDP clubs. I suspect you would find that ECNL teams own a distinct advantage and that most people would agree. On an individual player level, there are obviously going to be EDP players who could easily play on NoVA ECNL teams but the average skill level is lower.


15 teams out of 24 have losing records. That is over half of our teams. That is not balance.


The FACT is that those teams in last place are losing against competitive teams most from outside the DMV area. While your non-ECNL team is winning against an average local Team.


The combined goal differential for those last place teams is -221. Tell me more how they would roll in EDP, CCL or any other regional league. They are bad teams and the patch doesn’t make a difference.


They would be in 1st place. Prove me wrong.


Loudoun 02 didn’t win a game at the Bethesda Cup against non-ECNL competition:

https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2869759


Loudoun 03 can’t win against non-ECNL teams in showcases.
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2142014

05 BRYC didn’t win a game against non-ECNL competition in the 2018 Bethesda Cup and only won games against non-ECNL in the second bracket at the 2018 Discovery cup:
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2869759

06 McLean cleaned up at the August cup against team ranked 34th to 59th but lost every game against non-ECNL competition in last years Jeff Cup, and they went 2-1 against non-ECNL competition for a combined 6-4 non-ECNL record, four of the wins against 34th and lower ranked teams:
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2156396

07 BRYC is ranked 25th in the State. There are only 5 ECNL teams in the state.
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=3188340



And that's where your inexperience butt falls flat on your face. You have no concept of history and why things are they way they are. You, as I have always said, are the parent of a really young player and you think you know way more that you actually know. You have an ego without just cause.

The age change and creation of GDA created this absolute mess that we are seeing now. This is the fault of USSF. Because of it, you must judge the clubs the following way:

Loudoun 05 and above was stripped clean to the bone by FCV when they didn't have ECNL. Now that Loudoun has ECNL, you must judge them by their 06 and below teams to understand trajectory.
Mclean 03 and above were not effected by the creation of the DA. Mclean 04 and below where greatly effected. The GA will continue to effect them because they're losing out on the Arlington kids.
BRYC is in shambles. They are the biggest red flag right now. Heard some of their teams are imploding.
VDA should only be judged by their 04 and down to understand their future trajectory.
Arlington should also be only judged by their 04's and below to understand future trajectory
FCV should only be judged by their 07s and up from this point on. Their older teams are solid. However, they wont be able to attract players like they use too (my opinion).

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And yes, I know its Affected not effected.
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Anonymous wrote:The number of last place teams is almost completely balanced by the number of first place teams in NoVA. If anything, the distribution is bathtub shaped with a more than normal number of first and last place teams. Those first and last place teams are distributed across all age groups too, so there are no generalizations to be made about age groups. It stands to reason that the area is diluted in general, but that would also include some of the NoVA EDP teams. Regardless, the argument that NoVA ECNL teams in MA are weak cannot be made based on this years standings. I am not about to do this, but a better indicator of ECNL vs EDP strength might come from stacking up the head to head records of NoVA ECNL clubs against EDP clubs. I suspect you would find that ECNL teams own a distinct advantage and that most people would agree. On an individual player level, there are obviously going to be EDP players who could easily play on NoVA ECNL teams but the average skill level is lower.


15 teams out of 24 have losing records. That is over half of our teams. That is not balance.


The FACT is that those teams in last place are losing against competitive teams most from outside the DMV area. While your non-ECNL team is winning against an average local Team.


The combined goal differential for those last place teams is -221. Tell me more how they would roll in EDP, CCL or any other regional league. They are bad teams and the patch doesn’t make a difference.


They would be in 1st place. Prove me wrong.


Loudoun 02 didn’t win a game at the Bethesda Cup against non-ECNL competition:

https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2869759


Loudoun 03 can’t win against non-ECNL teams in showcases.
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2142014

05 BRYC didn’t win a game against non-ECNL competition in the 2018 Bethesda Cup and only won games against non-ECNL in the second bracket at the 2018 Discovery cup:
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2869759

06 McLean cleaned up at the August cup against team ranked 34th to 59th but lost every game against non-ECNL competition in last years Jeff Cup, and they went 2-1 against non-ECNL competition for a combined 6-4 non-ECNL record, four of the wins against 34th and lower ranked teams:
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2156396

07 BRYC is ranked 25th in the State. There are only 5 ECNL teams in the state.
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=3188340



And that's where your inexperience butt falls flat on your face. You have no concept of history and why things are they way they are. You, as I have always said, are the parent of a really young player and you think you know way more that you actually know. You have an ego without just cause.

The age change and creation of GDA created this absolute mess that we are seeing now. This is the fault of USSF. Because of it, you must judge the clubs the following way:

Loudoun 05 and above was stripped clean to the bone by FCV when they didn't have ECNL. Now that Loudoun has ECNL, you must judge them by their 06 and below teams to understand trajectory.
Mclean 03 and above were not effected by the creation of the DA. Mclean 04 and below where greatly effected. The GA will continue to effect them because they're losing out on the Arlington kids.
BRYC is in shambles. They are the biggest red flag right now. Heard some of their teams are imploding.
VDA should only be judged by their 04 and down to understand their future trajectory.
Arlington should also be only judged by their 04's and below to understand future trajectory
FCV should only be judged by their 07s and up from this point on. Their older teams are solid. However, they wont be able to attract players like they use too (my opinion).



These are last place teams in ECNL with a competitive record against non-ECNL teams. PP stated that last place ECNL teams would finish first in any other league. I was challenged to prove otherwise.

Outside of ECNL these last place teams are ordinary. You can try and qualify why they are in last place but someone always has to be in last place. The argument is that the separation of ECNL quality compared to lesser leagues is just to wise a gap to overcome. That a player in a lower league should automatically be discounted as not good enough because of the team, club and league affiliation.

Dilution in this area will always impact our local ECNL teams and because of that there will always be a local ECNL team in each age group that is very average. Good players will migrate to the better teams of which this area only has enough players to support 2 quality teams. The other two will vary from average to bad ECNL teams.

The patch just doesn’t mean as much here.
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Anonymous wrote:The number of last place teams is almost completely balanced by the number of first place teams in NoVA. If anything, the distribution is bathtub shaped with a more than normal number of first and last place teams. Those first and last place teams are distributed across all age groups too, so there are no generalizations to be made about age groups. It stands to reason that the area is diluted in general, but that would also include some of the NoVA EDP teams. Regardless, the argument that NoVA ECNL teams in MA are weak cannot be made based on this years standings. I am not about to do this, but a better indicator of ECNL vs EDP strength might come from stacking up the head to head records of NoVA ECNL clubs against EDP clubs. I suspect you would find that ECNL teams own a distinct advantage and that most people would agree. On an individual player level, there are obviously going to be EDP players who could easily play on NoVA ECNL teams but the average skill level is lower.


15 teams out of 24 have losing records. That is over half of our teams. That is not balance.


The FACT is that those teams in last place are losing against competitive teams most from outside the DMV area. While your non-ECNL team is winning against an average local Team.


The combined goal differential for those last place teams is -221. Tell me more how they would roll in EDP, CCL or any other regional league. They are bad teams and the patch doesn’t make a difference.


They would be in 1st place. Prove me wrong.


Loudoun 02 didn’t win a game at the Bethesda Cup against non-ECNL competition:

https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2869759


Loudoun 03 can’t win against non-ECNL teams in showcases.
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2142014

05 BRYC didn’t win a game against non-ECNL competition in the 2018 Bethesda Cup and only won games against non-ECNL in the second bracket at the 2018 Discovery cup:
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2869759

06 McLean cleaned up at the August cup against team ranked 34th to 59th but lost every game against non-ECNL competition in last years Jeff Cup, and they went 2-1 against non-ECNL competition for a combined 6-4 non-ECNL record, four of the wins against 34th and lower ranked teams:
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2156396

07 BRYC is ranked 25th in the State. There are only 5 ECNL teams in the state.
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=3188340



And that's where your inexperience butt falls flat on your face. You have no concept of history and why things are they way they are. You, as I have always said, are the parent of a really young player and you think you know way more that you actually know. You have an ego without just cause.

The age change and creation of GDA created this absolute mess that we are seeing now. This is the fault of USSF. Because of it, you must judge the clubs the following way:

Loudoun 05 and above was stripped clean to the bone by FCV when they didn't have ECNL. Now that Loudoun has ECNL, you must judge them by their 06 and below teams to understand trajectory.
Mclean 03 and above were not effected by the creation of the DA. Mclean 04 and below where greatly effected. The GA will continue to effect them because they're losing out on the Arlington kids.
BRYC is in shambles. They are the biggest red flag right now. Heard some of their teams are imploding.
VDA should only be judged by their 04 and down to understand their future trajectory.
Arlington should also be only judged by their 04's and below to understand future trajectory
FCV should only be judged by their 07s and up from this point on. Their older teams are solid. However, they wont be able to attract players like they use too (my opinion).



Without USSF there would only be 2 ECNL teams in the area and you would very much be making the argument that your non-ECNL team is just as good as ECNL teams. Essentially you would be making Pipeline dad’s argument.

Well, we have four ECNL teams per age group and 25% of them are in last place.
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Anonymous wrote:13 ECNL winner - Loudoun
14 ECNL winner - VDA
15 ECNL Winner - SC United
16 ECNL Winner - Richmond
17 ECNL Winner - BRYC
19 ECNL Winner - Mclean

4 of the 6 conference winners are NoVa teams. The talent is in the area. It is spread around different clubs in different age groups. To say Northern VA clubs are the weakest in the MA conference is False


Ummm, Richmond doesn’t count but nice try.


PP did not count Richmond as one of the four NOVA clubs that won the division: Loudoun, VDA, BRYC and McLean. Richmond and SC United are the other two winners. So VA clubs won 5 out of 6 age groups and NOVA clubs won 4 out 6 age groups.
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Anonymous wrote:13 ECNL winner - Loudoun
14 ECNL winner - VDA
15 ECNL Winner - SC United
16 ECNL Winner - Richmond
17 ECNL Winner - BRYC
19 ECNL Winner - Mclean

4 of the 6 conference winners are NoVa teams. The talent is in the area. It is spread around different clubs in different age groups. To say Northern VA clubs are the weakest in the MA conference is False


Ummm, Richmond doesn’t count but nice try.


PP did not count Richmond as one of the four NOVA clubs that won the division: Loudoun, VDA, BRYC and McLean. Richmond and SC United are the other two winners. So VA clubs won 5 out of 6 age groups and NOVA clubs won 4 out 6 age groups.


Yeah, I saw the mistake after the fact.

Regardless, 25% of our local ECNL teams are in last place.
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.


Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.



Because a parent is the best judge of their child’s talent. Just post up your club and age group so objective minds can make that assessment. It’s not that difficult. We won’t know who YOU are. Right now, you are lashing out with a chip on your shoulder, but there’s nothing backing up your case. Surely, once you post the club and age group, we’ll see the brilliance of your team and how it’s top players could easily displace our last place teams’ players. We are waiting.


You judged my kid without ever seeing the kid play. What makes you such a good judge of talent?


There really aren't that many local clubs in EDP that don't have an elite pathway. So, if your kid is on one of those EDP teams, by definition they didn't make the cut. If your DD is one of the clubs who don't have elite pathways and field teams in EDP, for example La Plata, FC Leesburg, Barca Academy, etc, feel free to show up at the ECNL club you feel is worst in your age group and walk on with your team. It should be easy, right? Go for it and report back. We'll be able to verify all the roster turnover when ECNL posts the roster changes.
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.


Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.



Because a parent is the best judge of their child’s talent. Just post up your club and age group so objective minds can make that assessment. It’s not that difficult. We won’t know who YOU are. Right now, you are lashing out with a chip on your shoulder, but there’s nothing backing up your case. Surely, once you post the club and age group, we’ll see the brilliance of your team and how it’s top players could easily displace our last place teams’ players. We are waiting.


You judged my kid without ever seeing the kid play. What makes you such a good judge of talent?


There really aren't that many local clubs in EDP that don't have an elite pathway. So, if your kid is on one of those EDP teams, by definition they didn't make the cut. If your DD is one of the clubs who don't have elite pathways and field teams in EDP, for example La Plata, FC Leesburg, Barca Academy, etc, feel free to show up at the ECNL club you feel is worst in your age group and walk on with your team. It should be easy, right? Go for it and report back. We'll be able to verify all the roster turnover when ECNL posts the roster changes.


No, tell me your club, that is the only club my kid needs to make.
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.


Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.



Because a parent is the best judge of their child’s talent. Just post up your club and age group so objective minds can make that assessment. It’s not that difficult. We won’t know who YOU are. Right now, you are lashing out with a chip on your shoulder, but there’s nothing backing up your case. Surely, once you post the club and age group, we’ll see the brilliance of your team and how it’s top players could easily displace our last place teams’ players. We are waiting.


You judged my kid without ever seeing the kid play. What makes you such a good judge of talent?


There really aren't that many local clubs in EDP that don't have an elite pathway. So, if your kid is on one of those EDP teams, by definition they didn't make the cut. If your DD is one of the clubs who don't have elite pathways and field teams in EDP, for example La Plata, FC Leesburg, Barca Academy, etc, feel free to show up at the ECNL club you feel is worst in your age group and walk on with your team. It should be easy, right? Go for it and report back. We'll be able to verify all the roster turnover when ECNL posts the roster changes.


No, tell me your club, that is the only club my kid needs to make.


Vda 06
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.


Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.



Because a parent is the best judge of their child’s talent. Just post up your club and age group so objective minds can make that assessment. It’s not that difficult. We won’t know who YOU are. Right now, you are lashing out with a chip on your shoulder, but there’s nothing backing up your case. Surely, once you post the club and age group, we’ll see the brilliance of your team and how it’s top players could easily displace our last place teams’ players. We are waiting.


You judged my kid without ever seeing the kid play. What makes you such a good judge of talent?


There really aren't that many local clubs in EDP that don't have an elite pathway. So, if your kid is on one of those EDP teams, by definition they didn't make the cut. If your DD is one of the clubs who don't have elite pathways and field teams in EDP, for example La Plata, FC Leesburg, Barca Academy, etc, feel free to show up at the ECNL club you feel is worst in your age group and walk on with your team. It should be easy, right? Go for it and report back. We'll be able to verify all the roster turnover when ECNL posts the roster changes.


No, tell me your club, that is the only club my kid needs to make.


Vda 06


Thanks
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.


Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.



Because a parent is the best judge of their child’s talent. Just post up your club and age group so objective minds can make that assessment. It’s not that difficult. We won’t know who YOU are. Right now, you are lashing out with a chip on your shoulder, but there’s nothing backing up your case. Surely, once you post the club and age group, we’ll see the brilliance of your team and how it’s top players could easily displace our last place teams’ players. We are waiting.


You judged my kid without ever seeing the kid play. What makes you such a good judge of talent?


There really aren't that many local clubs in EDP that don't have an elite pathway. So, if your kid is on one of those EDP teams, by definition they didn't make the cut. If your DD is one of the clubs who don't have elite pathways and field teams in EDP, for example La Plata, FC Leesburg, Barca Academy, etc, feel free to show up at the ECNL club you feel is worst in your age group and walk on with your team. It should be easy, right? Go for it and report back. We'll be able to verify all the roster turnover when ECNL posts the roster changes.


No, tell me your club, that is the only club my kid needs to make.


Vda 06


Thanks


Will you reach out to Mikey for a tryout?
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.


Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.



Because a parent is the best judge of their child’s talent. Just post up your club and age group so objective minds can make that assessment. It’s not that difficult. We won’t know who YOU are. Right now, you are lashing out with a chip on your shoulder, but there’s nothing backing up your case. Surely, once you post the club and age group, we’ll see the brilliance of your team and how it’s top players could easily displace our last place teams’ players. We are waiting.


You judged my kid without ever seeing the kid play. What makes you such a good judge of talent?


There really aren't that many local clubs in EDP that don't have an elite pathway. So, if your kid is on one of those EDP teams, by definition they didn't make the cut. If your DD is one of the clubs who don't have elite pathways and field teams in EDP, for example La Plata, FC Leesburg, Barca Academy, etc, feel free to show up at the ECNL club you feel is worst in your age group and walk on with your team. It should be easy, right? Go for it and report back. We'll be able to verify all the roster turnover when ECNL posts the roster changes.


No, tell me your club, that is the only club my kid needs to make.


Vda 06


Thanks


Will you reach out to Mikey for a tryout?


No, I think I will share this whole exchange with Quan instead.
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.


Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.



Because a parent is the best judge of their child’s talent. Just post up your club and age group so objective minds can make that assessment. It’s not that difficult. We won’t know who YOU are. Right now, you are lashing out with a chip on your shoulder, but there’s nothing backing up your case. Surely, once you post the club and age group, we’ll see the brilliance of your team and how it’s top players could easily displace our last place teams’ players. We are waiting.


You judged my kid without ever seeing the kid play. What makes you such a good judge of talent?


There really aren't that many local clubs in EDP that don't have an elite pathway. So, if your kid is on one of those EDP teams, by definition they didn't make the cut. If your DD is one of the clubs who don't have elite pathways and field teams in EDP, for example La Plata, FC Leesburg, Barca Academy, etc, feel free to show up at the ECNL club you feel is worst in your age group and walk on with your team. It should be easy, right? Go for it and report back. We'll be able to verify all the roster turnover when ECNL posts the roster changes.


No, tell me your club, that is the only club my kid needs to make.


Vda 06


Thanks


Will you reach out to Mikey for a tryout?


No, I think I will share this whole exchange with Quan instead.


LMAO go for it! So now we know how you'll get your DD on the team. Connections.
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