White privilege and asian-bashing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the entire thread, but I am white and can say that my son, who attended elementary and middle school in Potomac MCPS schools, was very well prepared for high school math (in a rigorous private high school). I thank the Asian American population which pushed our school to challenge the kids, which might not have happened otherwise. You should be grateful that these people are joining our communities and setting the bar higher. I hope it continues.

Let me get this straight. This poster is saying “Asian parents are pushing our schools to challenge the kids and I like it.” Presumably people do not think this statement is racist or stereotyping. But when others of us say “Asian parents are pushing our schools to challenge the kids and I DON’T like it,” then we are called out for stereotyping and racism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the entire thread, but I am white and can say that my son, who attended elementary and middle school in Potomac MCPS schools, was very well prepared for high school math (in a rigorous private high school). I thank the Asian American population which pushed our school to challenge the kids, which might not have happened otherwise. You should be grateful that these people are joining our communities and setting the bar higher. I hope it continues.

Let me get this straight. This poster is saying “Asian parents are pushing our schools to challenge the kids and I like it.” Presumably people do not think this statement is racist or stereotyping. But when others of us say “Asian parents are pushing our schools to challenge the kids and I DON’T like it,” then we are called out for stereotyping and racism?

Neither is racist. This thread isn’t about racism. It’s about parents with high achieving kids who are grateful when they get
challenging coursework, and parents who have regular/average kids who hate hard coursework bc it make their kids stressed.

Answer?? Separate classes!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I worry about the emotional well being of kids who, as sixth graders, are forced to travel to a middle school during the day to study algebra, commute as eighth graders back and forth from a high school every day for precalculus and can't study with their high school peers either but have to drive to a college several days a week from grade 11 on for who knows what variant of advanced algebra. Acceleration by three years (which is what taking algebra in sixth grade is) can turn into a 7 year sacrifice. It's worth it for a very very select few but makes no sense for most.

This isn't true in FCPS. Many of the middle schools have an Algebra II class. Most of the high schools have Multivariable Calc and Linear Algebra after BC Calc. Kids would only be on the hook for 6th grade and 12th grade.

This isn't true in FCPS. Our FCPS middle school doesn't offer precalculus or Algebra 2 and our FCPS high school doesn't offer the upper level math courses you mentioned. Oops.

[Anonymous]

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accelerated math at Wolftrap in Vienna

A school that is over two-thirds white and has fewer Asians than your typical FCPS school is the one being used to demonize Asian prep culture?!?

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Insufferable DC problem. No an Asian problem.

All the kids in my family were advanced between 1-3 years in math. Not DC. Again, you appear to be overly fixated on what other people are doing.

Hilarious that the post right above yours is just elated at the culture that has been created with all of this “pushing”. It effects all students.
Ps- sorry to hear one of the kids was only 1 level ahead. Tough break.

[Anonymous]

Asian kids are often solely grade focused. They call it Asian and not Bsian for a reason.

My HS was super high ranked. Top 2 in nation. Was nearly all rich educated Jewish people. The Asians followed the rankings and now HS is nearly all Chinese.

Still great school but rankings had fallen as lot of fresh off boat Asians have poor English

Asians are the least lazy people on earth but far from the brightest original thinkers and suffer from group think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Asian kids are often solely grade focused. They call it Asian and not Bsian for a reason.

My HS was super high ranked. Top 2 in nation. Was nearly all rich educated Jewish people. The Asians followed the rankings and now HS is nearly all Chinese.

Still great school but rankings had fallen as lot of fresh off boat Asians have poor English

Asians are the least lazy people on earth but far from the brightest original thinkers and suffer from group think.

In some Asian countries, though, credentialism reigns supreme, insofar as it would set you up fur life. Naturally, that view is brought over here. To be sure, many, many white people have that view too, many in this country. In uncertain times, with Trumpism and Leftism as the options, people need something to grab onto that they think will let them say, ok, the ground is shifting under my feet, I don’t know how things will shake out fir the nation as a whole, but my kids should come out on top still (because they went to MIT, Harvard, UVA or wherever).

[Anonymous]

This is more of a symptom of moving to a liberal area more than anything. Everyone gets an award and we shouldn't be evaluated on our performance, but rather on our identities in the liberal world. In case you didn't notice it, this area is run by liberal politics.

[Anonymous]

hi instead of constantly bringing politics into the education forums can you please curl back up with your confederate flag the world's biggest participation trophy cool thanks

[Anonymous]

I find the hypocrisy on this thread ridiculous. It is okay for parents to go to extreme measures for sports but not for academics? I personally would never agree to the time commitment required for some travels sports for 9 and 10 year olds. Practice multiple times a week, away games often finishing after 8 pm, dinner in the car. It doesn't work for my family so we simply don't pick those activities! Same can be said for academic enrichment, music, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I worry about the emotional well being of kids who, as sixth graders, are forced to travel to a middle school during the day to study algebra, commute as eighth graders back and forth from a high school every day for precalculus and can't study with their high school peers either but have to drive to a college several days a week from grade 11 on for who knows what variant of advanced algebra. Acceleration by three years (which is what taking algebra in sixth grade is) can turn into a 7 year sacrifice. It's worth it for a very very select few but makes no sense for most.

Not really. Kids who love and excel in Math are grateful to escape below- leval boring Math and for them it is not a sacrifice to do the advanced math but a thrill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I worry about the emotional well being of kids who, as sixth graders, are forced to travel to a middle school during the day to study algebra, commute as eighth graders back and forth from a high school every day for precalculus and can't study with their high school peers either but have to drive to a college several days a week from grade 11 on for who knows what variant of advanced algebra. Acceleration by three years (which is what taking algebra in sixth grade is) can turn into a 7 year sacrifice. It's worth it for a very very select few but makes no sense for most.

Not really. Kids who love and excel in Math are grateful to escape below- leval boring Math and for them it is not a sacrifice to do the advanced math but a thrill.

Sure. Keep thinking that. They are all Sheldon from Big Bang Theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I worry about the emotional well being of kids who, as sixth graders, are forced to travel to a middle school during the day to study algebra, commute as eighth graders back and forth from a high school every day for precalculus and can't study with their high school peers either but have to drive to a college several days a week from grade 11 on for who knows what variant of advanced algebra. Acceleration by three years (which is what taking algebra in sixth grade is) can turn into a 7 year sacrifice. It's worth it for a very very select few but makes no sense for most.

But a child who starts athletics after school in 4th grade, doesn't see his classmates, cannot study with them because they have practice for 2 hours after school, has to eat an unhealthy dinner in the car to make it to another athletic event in the evening, crams in a little bit of homework before bedtime (the only time that they can get in homework), then gets up early to go for a run or the gym before school is a good thing to be promoted over the above. Then they have games and travel events on weekends. They see their athletic peers, but they never see or study with their academic peers. School athletics consumes a lot more time and commitment for the entire family that the majority of accelerated learning students and their families have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I cared when my kids were this age because with three children, hours of outside specialized math tutoring was unaffordable for us.

And if you get enough kids in a class claiming to be bored and already knowing the material, then the teacher basically rushes through it, reviewing it rather than teaching it.

We left our kid's school because it felt weird not to be able to afford public school -- but when your kids teacher calls you and says that your kid is the only kid in the class who isn't being tutored outside of class, and she can't "slow down" the class for your child and here is the number of a tutor, then essentially you've just made public school unaffordable for our family and presumably lots of others.

but no, that's not limited to math. IF only kids taking private music lessons get into the orchestra, then it's possible that you can't really afford that PUBLIC SCHOOL if you can't afford the private sports coaching, the private music lessons and the private tutoring. We had been so excited to be able to afford the house in the 'good neighborhood" but we actually couldn't afford to hang in our neighborhood elementary school in Northern Virginia.

you are now just making things up. "All but one are tutored outside school"? Get a life!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the entire thread, but I am white and can say that my son, who attended elementary and middle school in Potomac MCPS schools, was very well prepared for high school math (in a rigorous private high school). I thank the Asian American population which pushed our school to challenge the kids, which might not have happened otherwise. You should be grateful that these people are joining our communities and setting the bar higher. I hope it continues.

This attitude is reasonable and logical. And it's not news that the US k-12 is bad in comparison with other developed countries. The changes that the influx Asian students bring should be overall positive to any open-minded people, no matter how uncomfortable it feels initially.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the entire thread, but I am white and can say that my son, who attended elementary and middle school in Potomac MCPS schools, was very well prepared for high school math (in a rigorous private high school). I thank the Asian American population which pushed our school to challenge the kids, which might not have happened otherwise. You should be grateful that these people are joining our communities and setting the bar higher. I hope it continues.

This attitude is reasonable and logical. And it's not news that the US k-12 is bad in comparison with other developed countries. The changes that the influx Asian students bring should be overall positive to any open-minded people, no matter how uncomfortable it feels initially.

NO. The problem is that those studies compare apples and oranges. Many countries "spin off" kids who are not going to college long before 12th grade.