White privilege and asian-bashing

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I don’t care about pp’s gifted child, but cut the crap about “slow” math, and sixth grade algebra being no big deal. Just shut up already.

Your umbrage over math acceleration only makes sense if there actually is a school in the DC metro area in which more than a handful of kids are taking 6th grade algebra, and those kids are only qualifying due to excessive tutoring. Where is this happening? Where is this school? Many of us think this school only exists in your imagination, and you're creating some Asian tutoring boogeyman because you can't accept that some kids are brighter than yours.

We’ll find out in 8 or so years where my kid falls. I don’t for one second think this an Asian problem. This is an insufferable DC problem.
Just remember that Algebra 1 has traditionally been grade 9. Sixth grade algebra is very accelerated, and that’s great.
But stuff it with your la-di-da 99.9 is nothing special, “practicality every kid in our school is doing this stuff”. It’s boring.

Is it? Because I invite you to stroll over to the DCPS board, where parents are having giant tantrums over the lack of "differentiation" for their kids. Clearly you have a very particular problem with kids who are accelerated faster than yours in math.

[Anonymous]

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1. The standard math sequence is not very slow.
2. The kids in your AAP school are not 99.9 percentile kids. OMG you are delusional.

This right here x 10 or so other parents in a grade changes the culture of the school. I’m sure this parent thinks her kid is 99.9 and will be in this class too. And I’m sure her kid does one of the many strip mall math classes.

There are 120 kids per grade in the AAP center. You don't think it's plausible that 5 of them are 99.9th percentile? Nope. My 6th grader is not in algebra and will take it in 7th or 8th. I'm just not at all bothered by the handful of kids who are in algebra. They're all much brighter in math than my kid, so they would be bored if they were in the same prealgebra class.

Your math skills are rusty. No I don’t think it’s possible. Maybe 1 or 2.

[Anonymous]

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But stuff it with your la-di-da 99.9 is nothing special, “practicality every kid in our school is doing this stuff”. It’s boring.

A small handful of kids in a large AAP center are doing it. Your reading comprehension is abysmal if you thought anyone was suggesting that "practically every kid in our school is doing this stuff." Small handful = a few kids. It's no big deal what a few kids are doing. A few kids won't tip any balances in the school at all.

You still won't name the public school where every kid was getting outside tutoring. Admit it. You won't name the school, because you made the whole thing up.

[Anonymous]

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There are 120 kids per grade in the AAP center. You don't think it's plausible that 5 of them are 99.9th percentile? Nope. My 6th grader is not in algebra and will take it in 7th or 8th. I'm just not at all bothered by the handful of kids who are in algebra. They're all much brighter in math than my kid, so they would be bored if they were in the same prealgebra class.

Your math skills are rusty. No I don’t think it’s possible. Maybe 1 or 2.

One of the requirements for acceleration is a 145 CogAT, which is 99.9th percentile. Part of the reason I think it's no big deal is that back in the day, the same kids would have been skipped ahead a grade or two. Grade skipping is out of vogue right now, so these kids are instead just skipping in one subject.

For what it's worth, there are grade skipped kids at the AAP center. Is it somehow intrinsically worse for an on-time 6th grader to take Algebra than it is for a grade skipped kid to take it in 7th? Both kids would be 11-12 years old.

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We left our kid's school because it felt weird not to be able to afford public school -- but when your kids teacher calls you and says that your kid is the only kid in the class who isn't being tutored outside of class, and she can't "slow down" the class for your child and here is the number of a tutor, then essentially you've just made public school unaffordable for our family and presumably lots of others.

Which school had every kid in the class receiving outside tutoring? Name names, or it didn't happen.

FCPS has math pacing guides for each grade level, and they stick pretty strongly to them.

accelerated math at Wolftrap in Vienna

[Anonymous]

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Which school had every kid in the class receiving outside tutoring? Name names, or it didn't happen.

accelerated math at Wolftrap in Vienna

If that's true, then it's not an Asian thing or an FCPS thing - It's the culture for schools filled with too many wealthy people. The small handful of Algebra kids at my ES AAP center can't possibly affect the school culture, since it's 25% FARMS and the remainder middle class. People can't afford to take part in any sort of arms race, and it would be culturally weird to do that level of tutoring.

[Anonymous]

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accelerated math at Wolftrap in Vienna

A school that is over two-thirds white and has fewer Asians than your typical FCPS school is the one being used to demonize Asian prep culture?!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t care about pp’s gifted child, but cut the crap about “slow” math, and sixth grade algebra being no big deal. Just shut up already.

Your umbrage over math acceleration only makes sense if there actually is a school in the DC metro area in which more than a handful of kids are taking 6th grade algebra, and those kids are only qualifying due to excessive tutoring. Where is this happening? Where is this school? Many of us think this school only exists in your imagination, and you're creating some Asian tutoring boogeyman because you can't accept that some kids are brighter than yours.

We’ll find out in 8 or so years where my kid falls. I don’t for one second think this an Asian problem. This is an insufferable DC problem.
Just remember that Algebra 1 has traditionally been grade 9. Sixth grade algebra is very accelerated, and that’s great.
But stuff it with your la-di-da 99.9 is nothing special, “practicality every kid in our school is doing this stuff”. It’s boring.

Is it? Because I invite you to stroll over to the DCPS board, where parents are having giant tantrums over the lack of "differentiation" for their kids. Clearly you have a very particular problem with kids who are accelerated faster than yours in math.

Dear Nitwit, I’ll let you know when my kid is in 6th grade.

[Anonymous]

I worry about the emotional well being of kids who, as sixth graders, are forced to travel to a middle school during the day to study algebra, commute as eighth graders back and forth from a high school every day for precalculus and can't study with their high school peers either but have to drive to a college several days a week from grade 11 on for who knows what variant of advanced algebra. Acceleration by three years (which is what taking algebra in sixth grade is) can turn into a 7 year sacrifice. It's worth it for a very very select few but makes no sense for most.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
accelerated math at Wolftrap in Vienna

A school that is over two-thirds white and has fewer Asians than your typical FCPS school is the one being used to demonize Asian prep culture?!?

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Insufferable DC problem. No an Asian problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I worry about the emotional well being of kids who, as sixth graders, are forced to travel to a middle school during the day to study algebra, commute as eighth graders back and forth from a high school every day for precalculus and can't study with their high school peers either but have to drive to a college several days a week from grade 11 on for who knows what variant of advanced algebra. Acceleration by three years (which is what taking algebra in sixth grade is) can turn into a 7 year sacrifice. It's worth it for a very very select few but makes no sense for most.

Oh no dear. Sixth grade algebra is just making up for our “slow” schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I worry about the emotional well being of kids who, as sixth graders, are forced to travel to a middle school during the day to study algebra, commute as eighth graders back and forth from a high school every day for precalculus and can't study with their high school peers either but have to drive to a college several days a week from grade 11 on for who knows what variant of advanced algebra. Acceleration by three years (which is what taking algebra in sixth grade is) can turn into a 7 year sacrifice. It's worth it for a very very select few but makes no sense for most.

This isn't true in FCPS. Many of the middle schools have an Algebra II class. Most of the high schools have Multivariable Calc and Linear Algebra after BC Calc. Kids would only be on the hook for 6th grade and 12th grade.

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There are 120 kids per grade in the AAP center. You don't think it's plausible that 5 of them are 99.9th percentile? Nope. My 6th grader is not in algebra and will take it in 7th or 8th. I'm just not at all bothered by the handful of kids who are in algebra. They're all much brighter in math than my kid, so they would be bored if they were in the same prealgebra class.

Your math skills are rusty. No I don’t think it’s possible. Maybe 1 or 2.

One of the requirements for acceleration is a 145 CogAT, which is 99.9th percentile. Part of the reason I think it's no big deal is that back in the day, the same kids would have been skipped ahead a grade or two. Grade skipping is out of vogue right now, so these kids are instead just skipping in one subject.

For what it's worth, there are grade skipped kids at the AAP center. Is it somehow intrinsically worse for an on-time 6th grader to take Algebra than it is for a grade skipped kid to take it in 7th? Both kids would be 11-12 years old.

Cogat isnt worth the paper it’s printed on as far as teasing real intelligence above the 2nd deviation. But I have no doubt there are parents using it as some kind of meaningful indicator of their child’s need for acceleration. If your kid has an FSIQ above 155 get back to me.

[Anonymous]

I haven't read the entire thread, but I am white and can say that my son, who attended elementary and middle school in Potomac MCPS schools, was very well prepared for high school math (in a rigorous private high school). I thank the Asian American population which pushed our school to challenge the kids, which might not have happened otherwise. You should be grateful that these people are joining our communities and setting the bar higher. I hope it continues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
accelerated math at Wolftrap in Vienna

A school that is over two-thirds white and has fewer Asians than your typical FCPS school is the one being used to demonize Asian prep culture?!?

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Insufferable DC problem. No an Asian problem.

All the kids in my family were advanced between 1-3 years in math. Not DC. Again, you appear to be overly fixated on what other people are doing.