Nothing tastes as good as thin feels

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:People who pontificate on here about the one way to lose weight are hilarious. There's a reason it's a billion dollar industry and that reason isn't that people are lazy or stupid because everyone diets, thin and fat people. It's because there are many factors at play. It's like everything in life, you can be rich and put your kids in private school and they'll turn out to be losers. There's no one way to get things. For some Keto works, for others high carb, for others cardio, for others weight. Surprise, we're not all the same.

All of these are remedies after you forgot how to listen to your body. What you didn't notice the extra 10lbs? And then 20, 30lbs when you reached for that third snack after dinner? Somehow rich or poor 30 years ago majority of people were slim. Yes, I agree that the food industry is using us as pigs to slaughter and pharmaceutical industry is encouraging it, both for profit. What I am trying to say is that keto, weight, WW, diet fads are only here because people threw their brains out the door, when it comes to proper eating habits. Sure, add was there for Pringles, but YOU/ME paid for it. I saw a lady at work yesterday, quite overweight, on the 5th floor stay late because elevator was broken. The thin worker, took stair up and down several times. My point is, you should never get to the point that you have more than 10-20 lbs to lose in a first place. If you do, look in the mirror for whom to blame.

I get you, but also this is not as simple as you think it is. My friend and I went on a low-carb diet, I ate nothing carby for a whole month. She lost 8 pounds the first week, me nothing. She lost more weight the subsequent weeks, and me nothing. We were exercising too. People said I must be lying or cheating, I'd have to lose weight considering my meal plan and my exercise, I didn't. I was devastated, so I gave up, and when I gave up, I gained 20 pounds in a month. This has always been my life story. I ate the healthiest of all my friends, but I'm the fattest. Maybe if I knew years ago that my body was that way, I wouldn't have ruined it by thinking nothing works and I'm fat and allowing more fat on. I take the stairs, I walk 5 miles a day, I don't drink juices or soda, and I eat salads (not fattening ones) almost every meal, and I'm fat. I'm healthy bloodwork wise, but I'm fat. It's not so fcking simple. And my calorie intake is not that high.

NP. I'm sorry that you eat and exercise so well and still struggle. But surely you realize you are the exception and not the rule? I absolutely believe that there are people out there who do everything "right" and are still overweight. But, statistically speaking, if you eat well and exercise, you're going to maintain a healthy weight.

the thing is that pp is NOT the exception

my advice is: eat to be healthy. exercise to be healthy. accept that your body probably wants to be a certain weight - within a range - and that it will be just about impossible to change what that range is in a longterm way. health and skinniness aren't the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ______ has sugar people drive me crazy. When was the last time you ate a whole bottle of ketchup?

There is almost 4gr of sugar in a tablespoon of ketchup.That is more sugar than in a cookie. Not sure what your point is?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/do-you-know-how-much-sugar-is-in-your-ketchup/2015/06/02/9496b77e-fe5f-11e4-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?utm_term=.c421b2ead8d2

Yeah, if you're slathering ketchup on everything you eat, morning-noon-and-night, you're not doing yourself any favors.

But if you use ketchup to dip some fries, or go alongside your scrambled eggs, every now and again? You're fine.

*Just like cookies are fine sometimes!*

Moderation. Balance. Did I just blow your mind?

If you're counting carbs you learn that the little things add up. You may not want to waste your carbs on stupid things like ketchup or sweetened creamer. You may prefer a sugar free bbq sauce to a sugary one.

Of course, people who are eating fries aren't going to worry about a little thing like carbs in ketchup. Might as well enjoy them, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you deliberately being dense? She could have just said that. She had to go further and say the word "fatties ".

And by writing it out, she de-facto spoke it. So no. She's not being punished for thoughts that she had. She's being called a jerk for the things that she actually said

Damn.

You don’t sound like you’re in the position to judge rude behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who pontificate on here about the one way to lose weight are hilarious. There's a reason it's a billion dollar industry and that reason isn't that people are lazy or stupid because everyone diets, thin and fat people. It's because there are many factors at play. It's like everything in life, you can be rich and put your kids in private school and they'll turn out to be losers. There's no one way to get things. For some Keto works, for others high carb, for others cardio, for others weight. Surprise, we're not all the same.

All of these are remedies after you forgot how to listen to your body. What you didn't notice the extra 10lbs? And then 20, 30lbs when you reached for that third snack after dinner? Somehow rich or poor 30 years ago majority of people were slim. Yes, I agree that the food industry is using us as pigs to slaughter and pharmaceutical industry is encouraging it, both for profit. What I am trying to say is that keto, weight, WW, diet fads are only here because people threw their brains out the door, when it comes to proper eating habits. Sure, add was there for Pringles, but YOU/ME paid for it. I saw a lady at work yesterday, quite overweight, on the 5th floor stay late because elevator was broken. The thin worker, took stair up and down several times. My point is, you should never get to the point that you have more than 10-20 lbs to lose in a first place. If you do, look in the mirror for whom to blame.

I get you, but also this is not as simple as you think it is. My friend and I went on a low-carb diet, I ate nothing carby for a whole month. She lost 8 pounds the first week, me nothing. She lost more weight the subsequent weeks, and me nothing. We were exercising too. People said I must be lying or cheating, I'd have to lose weight considering my meal plan and my exercise, I didn't. I was devastated, so I gave up, and when I gave up, I gained 20 pounds in a month. This has always been my life story. I ate the healthiest of all my friends, but I'm the fattest. Maybe if I knew years ago that my body was that way, I wouldn't have ruined it by thinking nothing works and I'm fat and allowing more fat on. I take the stairs, I walk 5 miles a day, I don't drink juices or soda, and I eat salads (not fattening ones) almost every meal, and I'm fat. I'm healthy bloodwork wise, but I'm fat. It's not so fcking simple. And my calorie intake is not that high.

The only suggestion I have for you is to read the Obesity Code by Dr Fung. He will help you to understand why your body is so resistant to losing weight and what to do about it.

[Anonymous]

Ahhh. The classic non response. "it's rude to point out when other people are assholes." Never change rationalizers of DCUM.

Anyway, pp a few above makes a good point. This whole thread seems to confuse being skinny with being healthy. That's a bad premise.

And as for the question I don't think skinny is a feeling. I would never choose to find my happiness in my weight. There is another thread saying a 4 11 105 pound woman is not slender. That takes you right to dysmorphia no thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who pontificate on here about the one way to lose weight are hilarious. There's a reason it's a billion dollar industry and that reason isn't that people are lazy or stupid because everyone diets, thin and fat people. It's because there are many factors at play. It's like everything in life, you can be rich and put your kids in private school and they'll turn out to be losers. There's no one way to get things. For some Keto works, for others high carb, for others cardio, for others weight. Surprise, we're not all the same.

All of these are remedies after you forgot how to listen to your body. What you didn't notice the extra 10lbs? And then 20, 30lbs when you reached for that third snack after dinner? Somehow rich or poor 30 years ago majority of people were slim. Yes, I agree that the food industry is using us as pigs to slaughter and pharmaceutical industry is encouraging it, both for profit. What I am trying to say is that keto, weight, WW, diet fads are only here because people threw their brains out the door, when it comes to proper eating habits. Sure, add was there for Pringles, but YOU/ME paid for it. I saw a lady at work yesterday, quite overweight, on the 5th floor stay late because elevator was broken. The thin worker, took stair up and down several times. My point is, you should never get to the point that you have more than 10-20 lbs to lose in a first place. If you do, look in the mirror for whom to blame.

I get you, but also this is not as simple as you think it is. My friend and I went on a low-carb diet, I ate nothing carby for a whole month. She lost 8 pounds the first week, me nothing. She lost more weight the subsequent weeks, and me nothing. We were exercising too. People said I must be lying or cheating, I'd have to lose weight considering my meal plan and my exercise, I didn't. I was devastated, so I gave up, and when I gave up, I gained 20 pounds in a month. This has always been my life story. I ate the healthiest of all my friends, but I'm the fattest. Maybe if I knew years ago that my body was that way, I wouldn't have ruined it by thinking nothing works and I'm fat and allowing more fat on. I take the stairs, I walk 5 miles a day, I don't drink juices or soda, and I eat salads (not fattening ones) almost every meal, and I'm fat. I'm healthy bloodwork wise, but I'm fat. It's not so fcking simple. And my calorie intake is not that high.

The only suggestion I have for you is to read the Obesity Code by Dr Fung. He will help you to understand why your body is so resistant to losing weight and what to do about it.

I am doing so, actually. Thank you. The problem is everyone around you doubting you. You must be lying. You must hide and binge eat, you cannot eat like this and be fat. Yes, yes you can.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ______ has sugar people drive me crazy. When was the last time you ate a whole bottle of ketchup?

There is almost 4gr of sugar in a tablespoon of ketchup.That is more sugar than in a cookie. Not sure what your point is?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/do-you-know-how-much-sugar-is-in-your-ketchup/2015/06/02/9496b77e-fe5f-11e4-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?utm_term=.c421b2ead8d2

Yeah, if you're slathering ketchup on everything you eat, morning-noon-and-night, you're not doing yourself any favors.

But if you use ketchup to dip some fries, or go alongside your scrambled eggs, every now and again? You're fine.

*Just like cookies are fine sometimes!*

Moderation. Balance. Did I just blow your mind?

If you're counting carbs you learn that the little things add up. You may not want to waste your carbs on stupid things like ketchup or sweetened creamer. You may prefer a sugar free bbq sauce to a sugary one.

Of course, people who are eating fries aren't going to worry about a little thing like carbs in ketchup. Might as well enjoy them, right?

I never count carbs/calories. That's obsessive and food-focused and not how healthy/normal/slender people eat, and I'm a healthy/normal/slender person.

Do I have fries and ketchup at every opportunity? No. But when they sound extra-good, I have them. I don't plow through a whole serving mindlessly; I stop when I'm satiated. Sometimes, that means I eat almost all of them. Sometimes, that means I eat less than half of them. They're not evil, they're not going to bring me a deep sense of comfort--they're just fries.

Do I grab a pedestrian-looking bagel off the conference spread just because it's free, and it's there? No. But if a colleague brings in specialty bagels that look or smell particularly delicious, you bet I'm having one--and again, that could just mean half.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ______ has sugar people drive me crazy. When was the last time you ate a whole bottle of ketchup?

There is almost 4gr of sugar in a tablespoon of ketchup.That is more sugar than in a cookie. Not sure what your point is?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/do-you-know-how-much-sugar-is-in-your-ketchup/2015/06/02/9496b77e-fe5f-11e4-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?utm_term=.c421b2ead8d2

Yeah, if you're slathering ketchup on everything you eat, morning-noon-and-night, you're not doing yourself any favors.

But if you use ketchup to dip some fries, or go alongside your scrambled eggs, every now and again? You're fine.

*Just like cookies are fine sometimes!*

Moderation. Balance. Did I just blow your mind?

If you're counting carbs you learn that the little things add up. You may not want to waste your carbs on stupid things like ketchup or sweetened creamer. You may prefer a sugar free bbq sauce to a sugary one.

Of course, people who are eating fries aren't going to worry about a little thing like carbs in ketchup. Might as well enjoy them, right?

I never count carbs/calories. That's obsessive and food-focused and not how healthy/normal/slender people eat, and I'm a healthy/normal/slender person.

Do I have fries and ketchup at every opportunity? No. But when they sound extra-good, I have them. I don't plow through a whole serving mindlessly; I stop when I'm satiated. Sometimes, that means I eat almost all of them. Sometimes, that means I eat less than half of them. They're not evil, they're not going to bring me a deep sense of comfort--they're just fries.

Do I grab a pedestrian-looking bagel off the conference spread just because it's free, and it's there? No. But if a colleague brings in specialty bagels that look or smell particularly delicious, you bet I'm having one--and again, that could just mean half.

I'm counting carbs because the alternative would be me developing type 2 diabetes. Enjoy your "normal", I used to be that way, too .

[Anonymous]

In honor of Mardi Gras:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ______ has sugar people drive me crazy. When was the last time you ate a whole bottle of ketchup?

There is almost 4gr of sugar in a tablespoon of ketchup.That is more sugar than in a cookie. Not sure what your point is?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/do-you-know-how-much-sugar-is-in-your-ketchup/2015/06/02/9496b77e-fe5f-11e4-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?utm_term=.c421b2ead8d2

Yeah, if you're slathering ketchup on everything you eat, morning-noon-and-night, you're not doing yourself any favors.

But if you use ketchup to dip some fries, or go alongside your scrambled eggs, every now and again? You're fine.

*Just like cookies are fine sometimes!*

Moderation. Balance. Did I just blow your mind?

If you're counting carbs you learn that the little things add up. You may not want to waste your carbs on stupid things like ketchup or sweetened creamer. You may prefer a sugar free bbq sauce to a sugary one.

Of course, people who are eating fries aren't going to worry about a little thing like carbs in ketchup. Might as well enjoy them, right?

I never count carbs/calories. That's obsessive and food-focused and not how healthy/normal/slender people eat, and I'm a healthy/normal/slender person.

Do I have fries and ketchup at every opportunity? No. But when they sound extra-good, I have them. I don't plow through a whole serving mindlessly; I stop when I'm satiated. Sometimes, that means I eat almost all of them. Sometimes, that means I eat less than half of them. They're not evil, they're not going to bring me a deep sense of comfort--they're just fries.

Do I grab a pedestrian-looking bagel off the conference spread just because it's free, and it's there? No. But if a colleague brings in specialty bagels that look or smell particularly delicious, you bet I'm having one--and again, that could just mean half.

I'm counting carbs because the alternative would be me developing type 2 diabetes. Enjoy your "normal", I used to be that way, too .

I will!

If and when I ever need to count carbs, I will. But don't roll up to a conversation about whether it's OK to eat ketchup (hint: it is). It's not *for you,* because you have a health issue. No one here is talking about how one should be eating with certain health issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who pontificate on here about the one way to lose weight are hilarious. There's a reason it's a billion dollar industry and that reason isn't that people are lazy or stupid because everyone diets, thin and fat people. It's because there are many factors at play. It's like everything in life, you can be rich and put your kids in private school and they'll turn out to be losers. There's no one way to get things. For some Keto works, for others high carb, for others cardio, for others weight. Surprise, we're not all the same.

All of these are remedies after you forgot how to listen to your body. What you didn't notice the extra 10lbs? And then 20, 30lbs when you reached for that third snack after dinner? Somehow rich or poor 30 years ago majority of people were slim. Yes, I agree that the food industry is using us as pigs to slaughter and pharmaceutical industry is encouraging it, both for profit. What I am trying to say is that keto, weight, WW, diet fads are only here because people threw their brains out the door, when it comes to proper eating habits. Sure, add was there for Pringles, but YOU/ME paid for it. I saw a lady at work yesterday, quite overweight, on the 5th floor stay late because elevator was broken. The thin worker, took stair up and down several times. My point is, you should never get to the point that you have more than 10-20 lbs to lose in a first place. If you do, look in the mirror for whom to blame.

I get you, but also this is not as simple as you think it is. My friend and I went on a low-carb diet, I ate nothing carby for a whole month. She lost 8 pounds the first week, me nothing. She lost more weight the subsequent weeks, and me nothing. We were exercising too. People said I must be lying or cheating, I'd have to lose weight considering my meal plan and my exercise, I didn't. I was devastated, so I gave up, and when I gave up, I gained 20 pounds in a month. This has always been my life story. I ate the healthiest of all my friends, but I'm the fattest. Maybe if I knew years ago that my body was that way, I wouldn't have ruined it by thinking nothing works and I'm fat and allowing more fat on. I take the stairs, I walk 5 miles a day, I don't drink juices or soda, and I eat salads (not fattening ones) almost every meal, and I'm fat. I'm healthy bloodwork wise, but I'm fat. It's not so fcking simple. And my calorie intake is not that high.

The only suggestion I have for you is to read the Obesity Code by Dr Fung. He will help you to understand why your body is so resistant to losing weight and what to do about it.

I am doing so, actually. Thank you. The problem is everyone around you doubting you. You must be lying. You must hide and binge eat, you cannot eat like this and be fat. Yes, yes you can.

Yes, that's frustrating. I deal with it too. But, remember, the person who decides what goes into your mouth is you. It really doesn't matter what other people think. I've lost a ton of weight eating what is good for ME and my body. My results are undeniable and lab numbers don't lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ______ has sugar people drive me crazy. When was the last time you ate a whole bottle of ketchup?

There is almost 4gr of sugar in a tablespoon of ketchup.That is more sugar than in a cookie. Not sure what your point is?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/do-you-know-how-much-sugar-is-in-your-ketchup/2015/06/02/9496b77e-fe5f-11e4-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?utm_term=.c421b2ead8d2

Yeah, if you're slathering ketchup on everything you eat, morning-noon-and-night, you're not doing yourself any favors.

But if you use ketchup to dip some fries, or go alongside your scrambled eggs, every now and again? You're fine.

*Just like cookies are fine sometimes!*

Moderation. Balance. Did I just blow your mind?

If you're counting carbs you learn that the little things add up. You may not want to waste your carbs on stupid things like ketchup or sweetened creamer. You may prefer a sugar free bbq sauce to a sugary one.

Of course, people who are eating fries aren't going to worry about a little thing like carbs in ketchup. Might as well enjoy them, right?

I never count carbs/calories. That's obsessive and food-focused and not how healthy/normal/slender people eat, and I'm a healthy/normal/slender person.

Do I have fries and ketchup at every opportunity? No. But when they sound extra-good, I have them. I don't plow through a whole serving mindlessly; I stop when I'm satiated. Sometimes, that means I eat almost all of them. Sometimes, that means I eat less than half of them. They're not evil, they're not going to bring me a deep sense of comfort--they're just fries.

Do I grab a pedestrian-looking bagel off the conference spread just because it's free, and it's there? No. But if a colleague brings in specialty bagels that look or smell particularly delicious, you bet I'm having one--and again, that could just mean half.

I'm counting carbs because the alternative would be me developing type 2 diabetes. Enjoy your "normal", I used to be that way, too .

I will!

If and when I ever need to count carbs, I will. But don't roll up to a conversation about whether it's OK to eat ketchup (hint: it is). It's not *for you,* because you have a health issue. No one here is talking about how one should be eating with certain health issues.

If people prefer to avoid ketchup because they are avoiding sugar, in general, as a way to prevent health issues then they can absolutely say that ketchup has too much sugar in their opinion.

FWIW, I do not have Type 2 diabetes because I prefer to prevent that health issue through proper diet.