Arlington DA

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Anonymous wrote:so FCV swept ASA this weekend, all 3 squads .... how was the play?

You know how the play was FCV dad. Go fishing elsewhere.

No need to get defensive. Arlington parents think WAY too highly of themselves and their teams. Arlington girls have played kickball for years. Sure they've won games because of it, but those girls aren't getting better doing that. Maybe the parents should demand that the coaches teach the players how to actually pass the ball instead of launching long ball after long ball. Not holding my breath.

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OK FCV dad.

My kids have played in multiple clubs (not FCV) and against Arlington for years. Go watch them play. Even a novice can tell they don't pass the ball. The arrogance is what takes the cake though. The parents think they are playing the sport the right way. It is comical.

Who is the arrogant one? You are the one who willfully came into an Arlington discussion board to attack the playing style of the club as if how they play was some crime against your family, nature and humanity. You might just want to get over yourself a little bit.

Over-dramatize much? Last I checked this was a public forum. If you don't like my post, ignore it. There are people here that are asking legitimate questions about clubs and teams. I am sharing my opinion on Arlington girls soccer - some may find value in it, some may not. No big deal, certainly not a crime against humanity.

What about the bolded had ANYTHING to do with playing style?

Again, You come into a Arlington Board, arrogantly attack their style of play and then accuse Arlington parents of arrogance?

As I read through the posts...found this one...and this is what I based my arrogance and novice comments on.

"I’ve seen a few of the Arlington DA teams play and their style wasn’t inconsistent with that I’ve seen of other conference DA teams. They were possession focused and looking to force play forwards when opportunities presented themselves. They took time to reset play when they weren’t. They were very aggressive in pressing when not in possession. There was no “send it” or “forward” commands at the matches I watched, that must have been a different group. To the person who said there was some bad play, I’d attribute that more to talent differences between teams than style. Based on what I’ve seen from many teams, the style these teams are trying to play doesn’t vary too much and is not direct in most cases."

I'm the OP of that post and I stand exactly by what I wrote, based on my observations of the games I have watched. My observations were not of the game/video you show, nor were they of that age group. You have no idea who I am or my ability judge style of play, not sure why you feel the need to speak down to others when you have no idea which team and what they observed.

If you are really interested, feel free to attend several games in person. Schedules are posted on the DA website. No need to cherry pick video to make your case on a Mom and Dad's board.

Don’t waste your breath. There is a poster here whose mission seems to be to trash all of the elite options and this is exactly his/her MO. Loves the drive by shooting and then drawing people into debates and tearing down clubs in general. See the VDA, Loudoun, BRYC, Spirit, McLean threads. Funny that there is no similar attack piece on FCV, but that’s probably just because their teams get the results, so no one is picking over their video. The agenda posters here really make the board very entertaining!

Not pervious poster. Conspiracy again? You are the easiest one to spot with an agenda.

Lol, as the just laid down spewing of post show, I guess this is a case of pot meet kettle. Your agenda is showing. Big time

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Anonymous wrote:so FCV swept ASA this weekend, all 3 squads .... how was the play?

You know how the play was FCV dad. Go fishing elsewhere.

No need to get defensive. Arlington parents think WAY too highly of themselves and their teams. Arlington girls have played kickball for years. Sure they've won games because of it, but those girls aren't getting better doing that. Maybe the parents should demand that the coaches teach the players how to actually pass the ball instead of launching long ball after long ball. Not holding my breath.

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OK FCV dad.

My kids have played in multiple clubs (not FCV) and against Arlington for years. Go watch them play. Even a novice can tell they don't pass the ball. The arrogance is what takes the cake though. The parents think they are playing the sport the right way. It is comical.

Who is the arrogant one? You are the one who willfully came into an Arlington discussion board to attack the playing style of the club as if how they play was some crime against your family, nature and humanity. You might just want to get over yourself a little bit.

Over-dramatize much? Last I checked this was a public forum. If you don't like my post, ignore it. There are people here that are asking legitimate questions about clubs and teams. I am sharing my opinion on Arlington girls soccer - some may find value in it, some may not. No big deal, certainly not a crime against humanity.

What about the bolded had ANYTHING to do with playing style?

Again, You come into a Arlington Board, arrogantly attack their style of play and then accuse Arlington parents of arrogance?

As I read through the posts...found this one...and this is what I based my arrogance and novice comments on.

"I’ve seen a few of the Arlington DA teams play and their style wasn’t inconsistent with that I’ve seen of other conference DA teams. They were possession focused and looking to force play forwards when opportunities presented themselves. They took time to reset play when they weren’t. They were very aggressive in pressing when not in possession. There was no “send it” or “forward” commands at the matches I watched, that must have been a different group. To the person who said there was some bad play, I’d attribute that more to talent differences between teams than style. Based on what I’ve seen from many teams, the style these teams are trying to play doesn’t vary too much and is not direct in most cases."

What is arrogant about it? I did not read any condescension only an analysis of the general style and tenor of the games they observed in their opinion. That it disagrees with your observations does not invalidate the person or make them arrogant. Why does your analysis or observation hold any more weight than theirs? In fact, your belief that your opinion has more credibility and weight is exactly what makes you the arrogant one.

But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and repeat your hard hitting and very detailed analysis of whatever Arlington game you have watched, "Even a novice can tell they don't pass the ball." If that breakdown does not settle the debate I don't know what will. :/

Watch the video. If you have the time and interest, post specific time points where the video shows possession soccer. Like I said, a novice should be able to tell that it isn't possession soccer. Or maybe I am giving Arlington parents too much credit since I have heard them on the sidelines yelling "great kick" over and over again. "Kicking" the ball has very little to do with the sport being played the correct way.

I watched a good chunk and I did not see the egregious kickball that you are accusing Arlington of. I did not see Tiki Taka but I also did not see a "send it!!" at all costs either. What I saw were two balanced teams competing for every ball and pressuring/challenging every possession. At the 19:20 mark demonstrates an attempt at not pressing forward when it isn't there and trying to maintain possession. I saw several attempts at intended passes for possession that simply became 50/50 balls.

I think direct ball (non-development) portion in the following video is what you have in your mind of how Arlington is playing and it simply is not true. I also think you believe that every team that attempts to adhere to possession style will always look like the "development" example in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx-BxNrP5TI

Has Arlington perfected all the elements of possession soccer under high pressure? No, but then again the one single game as "evidence" was a evenly matched, highly contested tie with fairly even possession time with very little to no sustained possession by either team.

This post is accurate and a fair assessment.

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NP. Same experience as some PPs. Parents cheering clearances all the time because they are novices and don't see the opportunities to retain possession or pass. Everyone who has played Arlington has seen this. Lots of other clubs too. So nothing special or different going on, that's what's wrong with some posters. This is DMV soccer.

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I think AstroTurf was the best invention of the 20th century. It really lays down evenly, blankets all areas,allows you to cover the true ground, and enables you to make the surface exactly as you’d like. I wonder how turf has influenced the play of Arlington and DMV teams and the perception of their play. It seems like it’s just taking the playing field over recently. At least we can avoid debacles like the Bethesda Cup last week with all of this AstroTurf.

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Arlington teams often seem at a disadvantage when they play on uneven, tall grass fields up in Maryland. It changes the game the kids are used to playing. Our non-DA kids had a hard time connecting the ball.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington teams often seem at a disadvantage when they play on uneven, tall grass fields up in Maryland. It changes the game the kids are used to playing. Our non-DA kids had a hard time connecting the ball.

Most teams that train on one surface and play matches on another another have issues, not just Arlington. How well a player and team can adjust is the key.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Same experience as some PPs. Parents cheering clearances all the time because they are novices and don't see the opportunities to retain possession or pass. Everyone who has played Arlington has seen this. Lots of other clubs too. So nothing special or different going on, that's what's wrong with some posters. This is DMV soccer.

Yep. I hear them cheering on 'big punts' from the goalie at U11. 'What a kick!!!' Of course with the players getting bigger and still on the small field---those big punts end up almost in the goal box. Really teaches the field players how to play, right? Hint: NOT

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington teams often seem at a disadvantage when they play on uneven, tall grass fields up in Maryland. It changes the game the kids are used to playing. Our non-DA kids had a hard time connecting the ball.

Most teams that train on one surface and play matches on another another have issues, not just Arlington. How well a player and team can adjust is the key.

God, yes. My kids play on grass and turf. They play in the street. They play on our lumpy, shitty weed-filled backyard lawn.

Since they were small, we always told them that the ball moves slower in grass. Those passes need to be harder/sharper, etc.

Playing on shitty conditions requires more ball control. Learning to manage the odd bounces, etc. The best you can do for a team is give them the opportunity to play on different surfaces.

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I think the turf really gives advantage to the long ball chasers. even an off pace/weak kick has a great chance of keeping rolling across the seam in the defense to the fast wing. hmm.

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LOL. Yes. Laying down the turf seems to be how those obsessed with longball seem to roll. No doubt about it

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. Yes. Laying down the turf seems to be how those obsessed with longball seem to roll. No doubt about it

Thats not the intention of my post, but nice way to twist it.

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I love this thread. Some crazy times! Arlington has become Kickball Nation. Kick that ?

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hey, arlington the worst offender here - is there some other DA/ECNL hotbed that should get the longballbprize?? Notnfair?

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Keep rolling out the turf, you’re doing great. At this point everyone is onto you. What a loser!

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Anonymous wrote:I think the turf really gives advantage to the long ball chasers. even an off pace/weak kick has a great chance of keeping rolling across the seam in the defense to the fast wing. hmm.

+1 funny.