Serena is a bully and a crybaby

[Anonymous]

-- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS

Do you watch sports very much? Do you realize how common it is for an individual or team to be behind and then turn a game around and win? No game is over until it is completely over, but this match was cut short before the players could play all the points.

Just in the past couple of weeks, I saw the Nationals win a few games after being way behind. It has happened frequently enough lately that I've lost track of how many time I've seen it happen. It is not unusual for a team to come from behind in the very last inning and win the game.

Both of the opponents in this match were robbed of the chance to see how the contest would have played out in the amount of time that was originally allotted to it. People pull off come from behind wins all the time and these two players should have had the chance to play every point of their match.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her coach actually admitted to coaching her and said all the coaches do it so it was odd that she was called on it.

He added that she didn’t see.

She kept on screaming at the umpire “you owe me an apology” and “you are a thief” more than once, so the umpire quietly told her “verbal abuse, 2nd warning” and “verbal abuse 3rd warning”. It was not audible to those who were on court.
She was not playing well right from the start. Her service percentage did not improve much in the 2nd set but right after the coaching, she started winning points by forcing Osaka to the net. osaka continued her great game. What she did was much more than “show her emotions”. Besides many make players have been penalized for breaking rackets.
Serena probably wanted to bring her baby to the court like Klijsters did when she won the US open less than a year after giving birth. She knew it was not happening so she list her temper and started acting out.

Didn't the ump's call set her off? Why did the ump make that call in the first place?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I follow tennis regularly and the whole situation makes me sad. Umpires rarely call coaching violations so that was totally uncalled for. Being accused of cheating is a trigger for Serena. I wish she’d let it go and dealt with it after the match.

The umpire didn’t need to do anything. The match could have just played itself out and Naomi would have won. We could have seen a happy smiling Naomi raise her trophy with pride.

I’m sad for Naomi. I’m sad to see all the Serena haters emerge to jump on a hating bandwagon when the opportunity arises. I’m sad for Serena because I admire her and her fighting spirit.

If there are so many Serena haters as you claim, tell me what made them into haters? Bcs not many Venus haters at all. Sharapova has plenty of haters, is that off base too? There is always a cause and effect, that is simple. Maybe we are just fed up with her diva tantrums? I don't know too many tennis players who told a lines person that she will shove the ball down her throat...That 20 year old won, but Serena made it all about herself. I hate her for taking the spot light from a wonderful young woman who didn't deserve anything that happened to her yesterday. I guess it is true, never meet your idols. I think for one of the best, if not the best WTA players ever, she is truly a terrible example. And even if umpire should have ignored it, how can you excuse her reaction? Nor it is not all about her gender and race. Can we have a few AA posters chime in. Do you consider Naomi Osaka black or not? If umpire saw coaching and ignored it 10 times and saw that Serena was getting unfair advantage over Naomi, is her not cheating another minority bcs Serena can get away with anything? She seems to think she can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

-- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS

Do you watch sports very much? Do you realize how common it is for an individual or team to be behind and then turn a game around and win? No game is over until it is completely over, but this match was cut short before the players could play all the points.

Just in the past couple of weeks, I saw the Nationals win a few games after being way behind. It has happened frequently enough lately that I've lost track of how many time I've seen it happen. It is not unusual for a team to come from behind in the very last inning and win the game.

Both of the opponents in this match were robbed of the chance to see how the contest would have played out in the amount of time that was originally allotted to it. People pull off come from behind wins all the time and these two players should have had the chance to play every point of their match.

If you'd watched the match you would know that there was no way Serena was coming back. I've watched her stage some amazing comebacks over the years but last night Osaka was handily outplaying her and was astonishingly calm and focused given the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her coach actually admitted to coaching her and said all the coaches do it so it was odd that she was called on it.

He added that she didn’t see.

She kept on screaming at the umpire “you owe me an apology” and “you are a thief” more than once, so the umpire quietly told her “verbal abuse, 2nd warning” and “verbal abuse 3rd warning”. It was not audible to those who were on court.
She was not playing well right from the start. Her service percentage did not improve much in the 2nd set but right after the coaching, she started winning points by forcing Osaka to the net. osaka continued her great game. What she did was much more than “show her emotions”. Besides many make players have been penalized for breaking rackets.
Serena probably wanted to bring her baby to the court like Klijsters did when she won the US open less than a year after giving birth. She knew it was not happening so she list her temper and started acting out.

Didn't the ump's call set her off? Why did the ump make that call in the first place?

because he felt like it. it was a bad judgment but squarely within rules. if you watched tennis at all you would know that this happens all the time and it happens to everyone. and unlike this call, which at least was within rules, there are literal bad calls when balls which were out are called in etc. yes players can challenge them (a relatively recent development) but even today it happens that they run out of challenges and obviously wrong calls are allowed to stand.

tennis has a big mental component. losing break chances, match points, saving a double match point and having a break in the fifth, then losing at the end... dealing with unfair calls and lousy audience is a part of that. US open audience hates djokovic for example. he only has 2 wins here despite it being his best surface because they always viciously root against him. but, that's on him. it's a part of the game.

[Anonymous]

If you look you will find fans and players have been complaining about Carlos Ramos since at least 2008.

Serena isn't any more diva like than any other player. Every single one of them goes off. Even Roger Federer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
If you look you will find fans and players have been complaining about Carlos Ramos since at least 2008.

Serena isn't any more diva like than any other player. Every single one of them goes off. Even Roger Federer.

Federer is one of the bigg st divas and one of the worst losers. he is only classy when he wins which is almost all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

-- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS

Do you watch sports very much? Do you realize how common it is for an individual or team to be behind and then turn a game around and win? No game is over until it is completely over, but this match was cut short before the players could play all the points.

Just in the past couple of weeks, I saw the Nationals win a few games after being way behind. It has happened frequently enough lately that I've lost track of how many time I've seen it happen. It is not unusual for a team to come from behind in the very last inning and win the game.

Both of the opponents in this match were robbed of the chance to see how the contest would have played out in the amount of time that was originally allotted to it. People pull off come from behind wins all the time and these two players should have had the chance to play every point of their match.

If you'd watched the match you would know that there was no way Serena was coming back. I've watched her stage some amazing comebacks over the years but last night Osaka was handily outplaying her and was astonishingly calm and focused given the situation.

I watched the match in real time, and because we happened to record it for our child to watch later, watched it again.

I would never say never about a comeback. People can dig deep down inside themselves and do amazing things. That's why I wish they had been able to truly play the entire match so that we could see what might have happened.

Without the umpire's unfair calls, Serena would not have been upset as she was and we as spectators would have been able to see a great game of tennis between two fantastic competitors, without outside interference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Angry. Black. Woman.

This is why I avoid black women, no matter how accomplished. Reality is they can't handle emotion like normal people. Sometimes life is unfair. You accept it and move on. She KNOWS she was going to lose so to turn this into -- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS.

Who hurt you so badly? I'm sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

-- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS

Do you watch sports very much? Do you realize how common it is for an individual or team to be behind and then turn a game around and win? No game is over until it is completely over, but this match was cut short before the players could play all the points.

Just in the past couple of weeks, I saw the Nationals win a few games after being way behind. It has happened frequently enough lately that I've lost track of how many time I've seen it happen. It is not unusual for a team to come from behind in the very last inning and win the game.

Both of the opponents in this match were robbed of the chance to see how the contest would have played out in the amount of time that was originally allotted to it. People pull off come from behind wins all the time and these two players should have had the chance to play every point of their match.

If you'd watched the match you would know that there was no way Serena was coming back. I've watched her stage some amazing comebacks over the years but last night Osaka was handily outplaying her and was astonishingly calm and focused given the situation.

Sure, in theory anything could have happened but it feels neither proper nor appropriate to speculate because it diminishes Osaka's tremendous win. There will be no asterisk next to her name in the record books....she won fair and square. The ump may or may not have acted inappropriately but Serena had 100% control over how she reacted.

I watched the match in real time, and because we happened to record it for our child to watch later, watched it again.

I would never say never about a comeback. People can dig deep down inside themselves and do amazing things. That's why I wish they had been able to truly play the entire match so that we could see what might have happened.

Without the umpire's unfair calls, Serena would not have been upset as she was and we as spectators would have been able to see a great game of tennis between two fantastic competitors, without outside interference.

[Anonymous]

what a horrible column by sally jenkins:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/tennis/at-us-open-power-of-serena-williams-and-naomi-osaka-is-overshadowed-by-an-umpires-power-play/2018/09/08/edbf46c8-b3b4-11e8-a20b-5f4f84429666_story.html

ironically, by trying to call the ump sexist for no good reason, she is making me have sexist thoughts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Angry. Black. Woman.

This is why I avoid black women, no matter how accomplished. Reality is they can't handle emotion like normal people. Sometimes life is unfair. You accept it and move on. She KNOWS she was going to lose so to turn this into -- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS.

And I bet you are all smiles and as sweet as honey when around black people. Right?

This kind of mentality didn't suddenly begin on Tuesday, November 8, 2016. Black people know we've never been liked, here.

This is America.

I’m not really around them. Not to many made it into my professional circles, none in my personal circles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Angry. Black. Woman.

This is why I avoid black women, no matter how accomplished. Reality is they can't handle emotion like normal people. Sometimes life is unfair. You accept it and move on. She KNOWS she was going to lose so to turn this into -- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS.

And I bet you are all smiles and as sweet as honey when around black people. Right?

This kind of mentality didn't suddenly begin on Tuesday, November 8, 2016. Black people know we've never been liked, here.

This is America.

Yes. Maybe that woman who happens to be black happens to have a darn good reason to be angry. And maybe you should listen to what she has to say and imagine the same words being said by a white or Asian woman, and then see if your reaction to them might be any different.

Don’t know what white or Asian women you’re around but they don’t fly off the handle like blacks, they just don’t. They don’t start screaming at the drop of a hat - blacks do on the regular. And I’m sorry but I just don’t care who their ancestors were wronged by slavery 200 yrs ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

-- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS

Do you watch sports very much? Do you realize how common it is for an individual or team to be behind and then turn a game around and win? No game is over until it is completely over, but this match was cut short before the players could play all the points.

Just in the past couple of weeks, I saw the Nationals win a few games after being way behind. It has happened frequently enough lately that I've lost track of how many time I've seen it happen. It is not unusual for a team to come from behind in the very last inning and win the game.

Both of the opponents in this match were robbed of the chance to see how the contest would have played out in the amount of time that was originally allotted to it. People pull off come from behind wins all the time and these two players should have had the chance to play every point of their match.

If you'd watched the match you would know that there was no way Serena was coming back. I've watched her stage some amazing comebacks over the years but last night Osaka was handily outplaying her and was astonishingly calm and focused given the situation.

I watched the match in real time, and because we happened to record it for our child to watch later, watched it again.

I would never say never about a comeback. People can dig deep down inside themselves and do amazing things. That's why I wish they had been able to truly play the entire match so that we could see what might have happened.

Without the umpire's unfair calls, Serena would not have been upset as she was and we as spectators would have been able to see a great game of tennis between two fantastic competitors, without outside interference.

Sure, in theory anything could have happened but it feels neither proper nor appropriate to speculate because it diminishes Osaka's tremendous win. There will be no asterisk next to her name in the record books....she won fair and square. The ump may or may not have acted inappropriately but Serena had 100% control over how she reacted.

I fixed the formatting above.

The problem is, that people will speculate and can't help but speculate. That's the nature of being human. That's why I say the players were both robbed of the chance to know how the match would have gone.

There is no way for us to know how that one point and one game would have proceeded had they played them through. When I imagine how I would feel if I were either of these players, I think I would always wonder what might have happened. I feel bad for both of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Angry. Black. Woman.

This is why I avoid black women, no matter how accomplished. Reality is they can't handle emotion like normal people. Sometimes life is unfair. You accept it and move on. She KNOWS she was going to lose so to turn this into -- oh I'm a competitor, I ALWAYS turn around matches at the end and this ref stopped me -- yeah BS.

And I bet you are all smiles and as sweet as honey when around black people. Right?

This kind of mentality didn't suddenly begin on Tuesday, November 8, 2016. Black people know we've never been liked, here.

This is America.

I’m not really around them. Not to many made it into my professional circles, none in my personal circles.

I can assure you that’s not an accident