Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

+1. The snobiness here (from a bunch of liberals!) is ridiculous. I’m in GP elem and expect to go to Woodward. Fine with me. This is not a seismic shift. My kid, who’s from a high income family with two parents with graduate degrees, most likely is going to have the same trajectory whether he goes to WJ or Woodward. You all need to get a grip. If you’re in your home for a significant period of time (as you should be if you’re financially responsible), the impact on your home value is not going to be a big deal in the long haul. Our HHI is over 400K but avoiding status-obsesssed people like the PPs is what keeps me from living in Bethesda.

Ok PP, I feel the same. But what if it’s Einstein?

I'm focused on my own kid. I went to what would have been considered the Einstein-level high school in what was a strong public school system overall (not MoCo). It did not hinder me in any way. I still went to Ivy League schools. People here are hysterical about ridiculous marginal differences -- I find it neurotic and extremely off-putting. And doubly gross because it comes from a bunch of self-professed liberals who turn their noses up at all the racist/sexist/anti-immigrant/whatever people that they're supposedly so much better than. Meanwhile they are grossly class-obsessed and entitled with crappy interpesonal skills such that they can't have a normal conversation with a middle-class person. It's no wonder their kids take after them with their snobby attitudes and stereotypes about anyone who's less fancy. I'd frankly rather my kid be surrounded with more normal people.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

+1. The snobiness here (from a bunch of liberals!) is ridiculous. I’m in GP elem and expect to go to Woodward. Fine with me. This is not a seismic shift. My kid, who’s from a high income family with two parents with graduate degrees, most likely is going to have the same trajectory whether he goes to WJ or Woodward. You all need to get a grip. If you’re in your home for a significant period of time (as you should be if you’re financially responsible), the impact on your home value is not going to be a big deal in the long haul. Our HHI is over 400K but avoiding status-obsesssed people like the PPs is what keeps me from living in Bethesda.

Ok PP, I feel the same. But what if it’s Einstein?

I'm focused on my own kid. I went to what would have been considered the Einstein-level high school in what was a strong public school system overall (not MoCo). It did not hinder me in any way. I still went to Ivy League schools. People here are hysterical about ridiculous marginal differences -- I find it neurotic and extremely off-putting. And doubly gross because it comes from a bunch of self-professed liberals who turn their noses up at all the racist/sexist/anti-immigrant/whatever people that they're supposedly so much better than. Meanwhile they are grossly class-obsessed and entitled with crappy interpesonal skills such that they can't have a normal conversation with a middle-class person. It's no wonder their kids take after them with their snobby attitudes and stereotypes about anyone who's less fancy. I'd frankly rather my kid be surrounded with more normal people.

I genuinely feel better when I read posts like this.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

+1. The snobiness here (from a bunch of liberals!) is ridiculous. I’m in GP elem and expect to go to Woodward. Fine with me. This is not a seismic shift. My kid, who’s from a high income family with two parents with graduate degrees, most likely is going to have the same trajectory whether he goes to WJ or Woodward. You all need to get a grip. If you’re in your home for a significant period of time (as you should be if you’re financially responsible), the impact on your home value is not going to be a big deal in the long haul. Our HHI is over 400K but avoiding status-obsesssed people like the PPs is what keeps me from living in Bethesda.

Ok PP, I feel the same. But what if it’s Einstein?

I feel the same and we are zoned for Einstein.

For heavens sake.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

+1. The snobiness here (from a bunch of liberals!) is ridiculous. I’m in GP elem and expect to go to Woodward. Fine with me. This is not a seismic shift. My kid, who’s from a high income family with two parents with graduate degrees, most likely is going to have the same trajectory whether he goes to WJ or Woodward. You all need to get a grip. If you’re in your home for a significant period of time (as you should be if you’re financially responsible), the impact on your home value is not going to be a big deal in the long haul. Our HHI is over 400K but avoiding status-obsesssed people like the PPs is what keeps me from living in Bethesda.

Ok PP, I feel the same. But what if it’s Einstein?

I'm focused on my own kid. I went to what would have been considered the Einstein-level high school in what was a strong public school system overall (not MoCo). It did not hinder me in any way. I still went to Ivy League schools. People here are hysterical about ridiculous marginal differences -- I find it neurotic and extremely off-putting. And doubly gross because it comes from a bunch of self-professed liberals who turn their noses up at all the racist/sexist/anti-immigrant/whatever people that they're supposedly so much better than. Meanwhile they are grossly class-obsessed and entitled with crappy interpesonal skills such that they can't have a normal conversation with a middle-class person. It's no wonder their kids take after them with their snobby attitudes and stereotypes about anyone who's less fancy. I'd frankly rather my kid be surrounded with more normal people.

+1

My kid has a college professor and a lawyer as parents. Whether he is at Einstein or Whitman, he will be fine. More than fine, actually. Better off than the vast majority of his peers nationwide.

For Pete’s sake.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

+1. The snobiness here (from a bunch of liberals!) is ridiculous. I’m in GP elem and expect to go to Woodward. Fine with me. This is not a seismic shift. My kid, who’s from a high income family with two parents with graduate degrees, most likely is going to have the same trajectory whether he goes to WJ or Woodward. You all need to get a grip. If you’re in your home for a significant period of time (as you should be if you’re financially responsible), the impact on your home value is not going to be a big deal in the long haul. Our HHI is over 400K but avoiding status-obsesssed people like the PPs is what keeps me from living in Bethesda.

Ok PP, I feel the same. But what if it’s Einstein?

I'm focused on my own kid. I went to what would have been considered the Einstein-level high school in what was a strong public school system overall (not MoCo). It did not hinder me in any way. I still went to Ivy League schools. People here are hysterical about ridiculous marginal differences -- I find it neurotic and extremely off-putting. And doubly gross because it comes from a bunch of self-professed liberals who turn their noses up at all the racist/sexist/anti-immigrant/whatever people that they're supposedly so much better than. Meanwhile they are grossly class-obsessed and entitled with crappy interpesonal skills such that they can't have a normal conversation with a middle-class person. It's no wonder their kids take after them with their snobby attitudes and stereotypes about anyone who's less fancy. I'd frankly rather my kid be surrounded with more normal people.

This by a million. PP, you perfectly stated everything that I was thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

+1. The snobiness here (from a bunch of liberals!) is ridiculous. I’m in GP elem and expect to go to Woodward. Fine with me. This is not a seismic shift. My kid, who’s from a high income family with two parents with graduate degrees, most likely is going to have the same trajectory whether he goes to WJ or Woodward. You all need to get a grip. If you’re in your home for a significant period of time (as you should be if you’re financially responsible), the impact on your home value is not going to be a big deal in the long haul. Our HHI is over 400K but avoiding status-obsesssed people like the PPs is what keeps me from living in Bethesda.

Ok PP, I feel the same. But what if it’s Einstein?

I'm focused on my own kid. I went to what would have been considered the Einstein-level high school in what was a strong public school system overall (not MoCo). It did not hinder me in any way. I still went to Ivy League schools. People here are hysterical about ridiculous marginal differences -- I find it neurotic and extremely off-putting. And doubly gross because it comes from a bunch of self-professed liberals who turn their noses up at all the racist/sexist/anti-immigrant/whatever people that they're supposedly so much better than. Meanwhile they are grossly class-obsessed and entitled with crappy interpesonal skills such that they can't have a normal conversation with a middle-class person. It's no wonder their kids take after them with their snobby attitudes and stereotypes about anyone who's less fancy. I'd frankly rather my kid be surrounded with more normal people.

And yet you worked in the gratuitous Ivy League references. Are you sure you’re really as normal as the folks who just want to avoid losing equity in their homes and having their kids rezoned to schools that focus mostly on kids who struggle to pass the PARCC assessments? Maybe you’re just looking to be the beneficiary of a redistricting and quick to stick “anti-“ labels on anyone who gets in your way.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

+1. The snobiness here (from a bunch of liberals!) is ridiculous. I’m in GP elem and expect to go to Woodward. Fine with me. This is not a seismic shift. My kid, who’s from a high income family with two parents with graduate degrees, most likely is going to have the same trajectory whether he goes to WJ or Woodward. You all need to get a grip. If you’re in your home for a significant period of time (as you should be if you’re financially responsible), the impact on your home value is not going to be a big deal in the long haul. Our HHI is over 400K but avoiding status-obsesssed people like the PPs is what keeps me from living in Bethesda.

Ok PP, I feel the same. But what if it’s Einstein?

I'm focused on my own kid. I went to what would have been considered the Einstein-level high school in what was a strong public school system overall (not MoCo). It did not hinder me in any way. I still went to Ivy League schools. People here are hysterical about ridiculous marginal differences -- I find it neurotic and extremely off-putting. And doubly gross because it comes from a bunch of self-professed liberals who turn their noses up at all the racist/sexist/anti-immigrant/whatever people that they're supposedly so much better than. Meanwhile they are grossly class-obsessed and entitled with crappy interpesonal skills such that they can't have a normal conversation with a middle-class person. It's no wonder their kids take after them with their snobby attitudes and stereotypes about anyone who's less fancy. I'd frankly rather my kid be surrounded with more normal people.

And yet you worked in the gratuitous Ivy League references. Are you sure you’re really as normal as the folks who just want to avoid losing equity in their homes and having their kids rezoned to schools that focus mostly on kids who struggle to pass the PARCC assessments? Maybe you’re just looking to be the beneficiary of a redistricting and quick to stick “anti-“ labels on anyone who gets in your way.

Oh please. It wasn’t gratuitous at all. This thread is full of BS about the impact of Woodward vs. WJ on test scores, etc. etc. Your kid’s test scores are your kid’s test scores. They’re not going to change significantly because he spends a couple years at one high school or another. I pointed out that I managed to go to Ivy League schools despite attending the “bad” high school for that reason. And how on earth would I be the “beneficiary” of redistricting in your estimation? I’m zoned for WJ now but will almost certainly end up at Woodward, which everyone is convinced will be a worse school. Who am I trying to prevent from “getting in my way”? WTH are you even talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

+1. The snobiness here (from a bunch of liberals!) is ridiculous. I’m in GP elem and expect to go to Woodward. Fine with me. This is not a seismic shift. My kid, who’s from a high income family with two parents with graduate degrees, most likely is going to have the same trajectory whether he goes to WJ or Woodward. You all need to get a grip. If you’re in your home for a significant period of time (as you should be if you’re financially responsible), the impact on your home value is not going to be a big deal in the long haul. Our HHI is over 400K but avoiding status-obsesssed people like the PPs is what keeps me from living in Bethesda.

Ok PP, I feel the same. But what if it’s Einstein?

I feel the same and we are zoned for Einstein.

For heavens sake.

I know! Our HHI is $800k and we have five ivy league degrees between us and we also hate all the bizarre status obsessed people in this area.

Who do things like that about their credentials on anonymous internet message boards.

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Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why wouldn't B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Sounds about right.

Does anyone think that kids in South Kensington and Chevy Chase View, which is currently zoned for BCC, would be rezoned to Woodward? If Woodward was made up of Kensington-Parkwood, North Chevy Chase, Rock View, Garrett Park, and Viers Mill students it would actually be a good mix and I don't think test scores would be that bad either.

I really doubt that happens. They just spent five years planning and building a new middle school that’s in South Kensington for those neighborhoods.

Seems far more plausible than bussing in poor kids from the other side of the county.

Nope. The Silver Creek boundary fight was ugly and in the end MCPS divvied up the BCC elementaries on the basis of proximity/convenience rather than trying to ensure an SES/diversity balance. No way do they move the closest neighborhood out of Silver Creek now.

And they can't do a split articulation for North Chevy Chase because it's already split articulated at the early elementary level. No one in MCPS wants to bust up the Rosemary Hills arrangement, which is one of the only durable and successful de-segregation initiatives in the area. (It is probably less justified now, but since it was the product of a court order I doubt MCPS wants to open up that can of worms.)

I don't live in South Kensington and frankly watching how hard some of the people in that neighborhood fought AGAINST having a new middle school in that neighborhood, I'm not a big fan. But I thought then, and I think even more now, the site placement of Silver Creek was the best guarantee that Rock Creek Hills et al will remain in BCC in perpetuity.

Makes sense save for the other BCC middle school (Westland) isn’t in the BCC zone. If you lived at Westland, you would go to Whitman.

Nothing stopping them from doing the same to middle school 2#

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Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why wouldn't B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Sounds about right.

Does anyone think that kids in South Kensington and Chevy Chase View, which is currently zoned for BCC, would be rezoned to Woodward? If Woodward was made up of Kensington-Parkwood, North Chevy Chase, Rock View, Garrett Park, and Viers Mill students it would actually be a good mix and I don't think test scores would be that bad either.

I really doubt that happens. They just spent five years planning and building a new middle school that’s in South Kensington for those neighborhoods.

Seems far more plausible than bussing in poor kids from the other side of the county.

Nope. The Silver Creek boundary fight was ugly and in the end MCPS divvied up the BCC elementaries on the basis of proximity/convenience rather than trying to ensure an SES/diversity balance. No way do they move the closest neighborhood out of Silver Creek now.

And they can't do a split articulation for North Chevy Chase because it's already split articulated at the early elementary level. No one in MCPS wants to bust up the Rosemary Hills arrangement, which is one of the only durable and successful de-segregation initiatives in the area. (It is probably less justified now, but since it was the product of a court order I doubt MCPS wants to open up that can of worms.)

I don't live in South Kensington and frankly watching how hard some of the people in that neighborhood fought AGAINST having a new middle school in that neighborhood, I'm not a big fan. But I thought then, and I think even more now, the site placement of Silver Creek was the best guarantee that Rock Creek Hills et al will remain in BCC in perpetuity.

Makes sense save for the other BCC middle school (Westland) isn’t in the BCC zone. If you lived at Westland, you would go to Whitman.

Nothing stopping them from doing the same to middle school 2#

All you need to do is look at the boundary maps for a couple DCC schools to realize everything is on the table.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

+1. The snobiness here (from a bunch of liberals!) is ridiculous. I’m in GP elem and expect to go to Woodward. Fine with me. This is not a seismic shift. My kid, who’s from a high income family with two parents with graduate degrees, most likely is going to have the same trajectory whether he goes to WJ or Woodward. You all need to get a grip. If you’re in your home for a significant period of time (as you should be if you’re financially responsible), the impact on your home value is not going to be a big deal in the long haul. Our HHI is over 400K but avoiding status-obsesssed people like the PPs is what keeps me from living in Bethesda.

Ok PP, I feel the same. But what if it’s Einstein?

I'm focused on my own kid. I went to what would have been considered the Einstein-level high school in what was a strong public school system overall (not MoCo). It did not hinder me in any way. I still went to Ivy League schools. People here are hysterical about ridiculous marginal differences -- I find it neurotic and extremely off-putting. And doubly gross because it comes from a bunch of self-professed liberals who turn their noses up at all the racist/sexist/anti-immigrant/whatever people that they're supposedly so much better than. Meanwhile they are grossly class-obsessed and entitled with crappy interpesonal skills such that they can't have a normal conversation with a middle-class person. It's no wonder their kids take after them with their snobby attitudes and stereotypes about anyone who's less fancy. I'd frankly rather my kid be surrounded with more normal people.

And yet you worked in the gratuitous Ivy League references. Are you sure you’re really as normal as the folks who just want to avoid losing equity in their homes and having their kids rezoned to schools that focus mostly on kids who struggle to pass the PARCC assessments? Maybe you’re just looking to be the beneficiary of a redistricting and quick to stick “anti-“ labels on anyone who gets in your way.

Oh please. It wasn’t gratuitous at all. This thread is full of BS about the impact of Woodward vs. WJ on test scores, etc. etc. Your kid’s test scores are your kid’s test scores. They’re not going to change significantly because he spends a couple years at one high school or another. I pointed out that I managed to go to Ivy League schools despite attending the “bad” high school for that reason. And how on earth would I be the “beneficiary” of redistricting in your estimation? I’m zoned for WJ now but will almost certainly end up at Woodward, which everyone is convinced will be a worse school. Who am I trying to prevent from “getting in my way”? WTH are you even talking about?

I am new to this thread, but I think you are talking about a different issue. You and many others may be equally comfortable with kids going to Einstein or going to Whitman, but many parents are not comfortable with that. Now, let's get to the main point of this thread which many posters made earlier. It was about housing becoming less valuable for future buyers. No way any one can make an argument that house prices are not impacted by school. Some places, it's more and some places it has less impact, but it does have some impact.

Some of the posts in this thread are out of line, but 100K house price reduction can be hard for families stretching it to get to WJ right now. Everyone doesn't make 400K of 800K HHI cited above in this thread. 100K reduction may not matter than much if you hake 400-800K. Some perspective is needed from both sides.

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Its really insane for MCPS to mess with WJ's boundaries. The problem will not be the URM students, the problem will be the type of URM students that move in. This happens in the DCC now Their scores are high enough to be proficient or get maybe a 3 on an AP test but the type of URM parent that doesn't care about school performance tends not to care about academics in other ways. They use the fact that their kids are surrounded by really low performers to convince themselves that their kids are doing great when they are barely mediocre.

The ONLY schools that made it into the top 200 for US News and World Report Best High Schools were Churchill #75, Wootton, Walter Johnson, Poolesville and Richard Montgomery. Blair was either unranked or didn't score high enough to rank in the 1000s. Considering its college readiness score was only 58% it probably was just too low to get anywhere on the list. This is the best school in the DCC with a magnet pulling in the best students across the area. It still scores low. The other DCC schools are horrible and its not just the URM students.

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Anonymous wrote:Its really insane for MCPS to mess with WJ's boundaries. The problem will not be the URM students, the problem will be the type of URM students that move in. This happens in the DCC now Their scores are high enough to be proficient or get maybe a 3 on an AP test but the type of URM parent that doesn't care about school performance tends not to care about academics in other ways. They use the fact that their kids are surrounded by really low performers to convince themselves that their kids are doing great when they are barely mediocre.

The ONLY schools that made it into the top 200 for US News and World Report Best High Schools were Churchill #75, Wootton, Walter Johnson, Poolesville and Richard Montgomery. Blair was either unranked or didn't score high enough to rank in the 1000s. Considering its college readiness score was only 58% it probably was just too low to get anywhere on the list. This is the best school in the DCC with a magnet pulling in the best students across the area. It still scores low. The other DCC schools are horrible and its not just the URM students.

The county doesn't have a choice but to mess with their boundar. WJ will about 40% over capacity by 2022; however, if you feel that 50 kids per class is cool, you should let them know so they can spend the $$$ elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Its really insane for MCPS to mess with WJ's boundaries. The problem will not be the URM students, the problem will be the type of URM students that move in. This happens in the DCC now Their scores are high enough to be proficient or get maybe a 3 on an AP test but the type of URM parent that doesn't care about school performance tends not to care about academics in other ways. They use the fact that their kids are surrounded by really low performers to convince themselves that their kids are doing great when they are barely mediocre.

The ONLY schools that made it into the top 200 for US News and World Report Best High Schools were Churchill #75, Wootton, Walter Johnson, Poolesville and Richard Montgomery. Blair was either unranked or didn't score high enough to rank in the 1000s. Considering its college readiness score was only 58% it probably was just too low to get anywhere on the list. This is the best school in the DCC with a magnet pulling in the best students across the area. It still scores low. The other DCC schools are horrible and its not just the URM students.

I didn't know that college readiness is only 58% in best school in DCC even after having magnet. I like seeing these facts rather than some anecdotal lines about how there are doctors or lawyers or HHI of 400K and all that.

About the bold part of MCPS messing with WJ, it's simply not possible to redraw boundary without changing it. MCPS has to change boundaries and it will be best interest of entire area to simple divide all students who are out of WJ current boundaries in two equal groups and assign them to WJ and Woodward. In future, WJ and Woodward will be surely lower performing than current WJ. It's inevitable if we look at numbers, but by dividing it equally, we ensure that two decent schools will be left after this boundary change. If only one school( WJ or Woodward) takes majority of outside students then school will be below average.

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I am new to this thread, but I think you are talking about a different issue. You and many others may be equally comfortable with kids going to Einstein or going to Whitman, but many parents are not comfortable with that. Now, let's get to the main point of this thread which many posters made earlier. It was about housing becoming less valuable for future buyers. No way any one can make an argument that house prices are not impacted by school. Some places, it's more and some places it has less impact, but it does have some impact.

Some of the posts in this thread are out of line, but 100K house price reduction can be hard for families stretching it to get to WJ right now. Everyone doesn't make 400K of 800K HHI cited above in this thread. 100K reduction may not matter than much if you hake 400-800K. Some perspective is needed from both sides.

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