Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This really has nothing to do with illegal immigration. MCPS would love for you to believe that its problems are just because of illegal immigrants. Its failing all students.

Two-way swing with the Montgomery County ever-increasing illegals and anchor baby debacle. Poor performers + Take more $$$ per head.

1) The hispanic FARMs cohort is the lower performing cohort in the county. doesn't help that their parent(s) are unskilled, uneducated and illiterate in any language.

2) More and more money gets shoveled at them trying to be their mothers, doctors, counselors, dentists, 24/7 food providers, ESOL teachers, and then maybe learn some math or reading before middle school. MS is when the pregnancy and drop-out rates skyrocket.

You are officially a self-entitled meanspirited parent here. An educated Populace serves us ALL, thus the children are being educated. I cant believe you are not in an alt Right group or swinging for Betsy Devos with the statements you are making.

DP here. In order for us to come up with a solution, we need to accept all facts. Nothing stated by the person you are responding to is untrue although they could've said it a nicer way. I think majority of us agree that we want an educated populace but in order to come up with solutions on how to achieve this, let's evaluate the data. Let's evaluate where we are spending the money and why.

Whoa there! It is certainly untrue that immigrants are all unskilled, uneducated, and illiterate. It is untrue that pregnancy and dropout rates skyrocket in middle school (?!). Hyperbole gets us nowhere here.

[Anonymous]

What's happened the last 15 years is that the poor parts of the county are all that MCPS deals with.

Half of bethesda with kids already is in private or parochial. and it's not because they're trust fund families, it's because they had an open mind about MCPS and were excited at some point, but no longer are.

That's absurd. In the last 15 years, who do you think renovated, added on to or built Bells Mill, Beverly Farms, Carderock Springs, Farmland, Garrett Park, Kensington-Parkwood (twice), Lakewood, Rock Creek Forest, Seven Locks, Somerset, Wayside, Cabin John, Hoover, Silver Creek, B-CC, and WJ? Not to mention projects in the works for Ashburton, Luxmanor, Potomac, North Bethesda, Pyle, Tilden, Whitman, and Wootton.

[Anonymous]

Please don't hijack this thread and make it about immigration which isn't the issue here. The W schools have plenty of high scoring immigrants. In fact, one of the reasons for the W-school exodus is the discrimination against Asian Americans by MCPS. You are barking up the wrong tree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please don't hijack this thread and make it about immigration which isn't the issue here. The W schools have plenty of high scoring immigrants. In fact, one of the reasons for the W-school exodus is the discrimination against Asian Americans by MCPS. You are barking up the wrong tree.

Which "W-school exodus" is that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This really has nothing to do with illegal immigration. MCPS would love for you to believe that its problems are just because of illegal immigrants. Its failing all students.

Two-way swing with the Montgomery County ever-increasing illegals and anchor baby debacle. Poor performers + Take more $$$ per head.

1) The hispanic FARMs cohort is the lower performing cohort in the county. doesn't help that their parent(s) are unskilled, uneducated and illiterate in any language.

2) More and more money gets shoveled at them trying to be their mothers, doctors, counselors, dentists, 24/7 food providers, ESOL teachers, and then maybe learn some math or reading before middle school. MS is when the pregnancy and drop-out rates skyrocket.

You are officially a self-entitled meanspirited parent here. An educated Populace serves us ALL, thus the children are being educated. I cant believe you are not in an alt Right group or swinging for Betsy Devos with the statements you are making.

DP here. In order for us to come up with a solution, we need to accept all facts. Nothing stated by the person you are responding to is untrue although they could've said it a nicer way. I think majority of us agree that we want an educated populace but in order to come up with solutions on how to achieve this, let's evaluate the data. Let's evaluate where we are spending the money and why.

Whoa there! It is certainly untrue that immigrants are all unskilled, uneducated, and illiterate. It is untrue that pregnancy and dropout rates skyrocket in middle school (?!). Hyperbole gets us nowhere here.

I missed something. Who said that immigrants are uneducated and illiterate?

I think the PP was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants.

As a legal immigrant, I would like to highlight that there IS a difference.

[Anonymous]

Half of bethesda with kids already is in private or parochial. and it's not because they're trust fund families, it's because they had an open mind about MCPS and were excited at some point, but no longer are

I don't know that it is as high as half but there are a good number of kids in privates that would not be there if the W schools were separate. We lost a lot of kids to private with the exploding class sizes and curriculum 2.0.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really has nothing to do with illegal immigration. MCPS would love for you to believe that its problems are just because of illegal immigrants. Its failing all students.

Two-way swing with the Montgomery County ever-increasing illegals and anchor baby debacle. Poor performers + Take more $$$ per head.

1) The hispanic FARMs cohort is the lower performing cohort in the county. doesn't help that their parent(s) are unskilled, uneducated and illiterate in any language.

2) More and more money gets shoveled at them trying to be their mothers, doctors, counselors, dentists, 24/7 food providers, ESOL teachers, and then maybe learn some math or reading before middle school. MS is when the pregnancy and drop-out rates skyrocket.

You are officially a self-entitled meanspirited parent here. An educated Populace serves us ALL, thus the children are being educated. I cant believe you are not in an alt Right group or swinging for Betsy Devos with the statements you are making.

DP here. In order for us to come up with a solution, we need to accept all facts. Nothing stated by the person you are responding to is untrue although they could've said it a nicer way. I think majority of us agree that we want an educated populace but in order to come up with solutions on how to achieve this, let's evaluate the data. Let's evaluate where we are spending the money and why.

Whoa there! It is certainly untrue that immigrants are all unskilled, uneducated, and illiterate. It is untrue that pregnancy and dropout rates skyrocket in middle school (?!). Hyperbole gets us nowhere here.

I missed something. Who said that immigrants are uneducated and illiterate?

I think the PP was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants.

As a legal immigrant, I would like to highlight that there IS a difference.

I bolded it for you. That's who I was responding to. It's hard to tell who the person is referring to because of the word salad that precedes it "Two-way swing with the Montgomery County ever-increasing illegals and anchor baby debacle." If you would like to assert that all hispanics -- or even all undocumented hispanics -- are unskilled, uneducated, and illiterate, you are engaging in hyperbole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really has nothing to do with illegal immigration. MCPS would love for you to believe that its problems are just because of illegal immigrants. Its failing all students.

Two-way swing with the Montgomery County ever-increasing illegals and anchor baby debacle. Poor performers + Take more $$$ per head.

1) The hispanic FARMs cohort is the lower performing cohort in the county. doesn't help that their parent(s) are unskilled, uneducated and illiterate in any language.

2) More and more money gets shoveled at them trying to be their mothers, doctors, counselors, dentists, 24/7 food providers, ESOL teachers, and then maybe learn some math or reading before middle school. MS is when the pregnancy and drop-out rates skyrocket.

You are officially a self-entitled meanspirited parent here. An educated Populace serves us ALL, thus the children are being educated. I cant believe you are not in an alt Right group or swinging for Betsy Devos with the statements you are making.

DP here. In order for us to come up with a solution, we need to accept all facts. Nothing stated by the person you are responding to is untrue although they could've said it a nicer way. I think majority of us agree that we want an educated populace but in order to come up with solutions on how to achieve this, let's evaluate the data. Let's evaluate where we are spending the money and why.

Whoa there! It is certainly untrue that immigrants are all unskilled, uneducated, and illiterate. It is untrue that pregnancy and dropout rates skyrocket in middle school (?!). Hyperbole gets us nowhere here.

I missed something. Who said that immigrants are uneducated and illiterate?

I think the PP was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants.

As a legal immigrant, I would like to highlight that there IS a difference.

I bolded it for you. That's who I was responding to. It's hard to tell who the person is referring to because of the word salad that precedes it "Two-way swing with the Montgomery County ever-increasing illegals and anchor baby debacle." If you would like to assert that all hispanics -- or even all undocumented hispanics -- are unskilled, uneducated, and illiterate, you are engaging in hyperbole.

You can bold whatever you want, it's still pretty clear to everyone (by the sentence above your bold) that they were talking about illegal immigrants (not legal immigrants). I really hope you understand that it is a difference and that legal immigrants take offense when you lump everyone together. Please be more sensitive to this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You need to deal with your entitlement and racism. You cannot build a rich, majority White Island.

why not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maryland state law mandates county boards of education. You would either have to change the state law, or have Bethesda and Potomac secede from Montgomery County to form a new county. Good luck with that.

it would receive 95% of the vote from Bethesda and Potomac. It would be the sour grape foxes from the rest of the county who wouldn't let them go crying about paying for their stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to deal with your entitlement and racism. You cannot build a rich, majority White Island.

why not

it already exists Bethesda, Potomac in MD, Ward 3 and Capitol Hill in DC, and North Arlington, McLean in Virginia

All high SES with high performing schools and majority white with some asian and some high SES URM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really has nothing to do with illegal immigration. MCPS would love for you to believe that its problems are just because of illegal immigrants. Its failing all students.

Two-way swing with the Montgomery County ever-increasing illegals and anchor baby debacle. Poor performers + Take more $$$ per head.

1) The hispanic FARMs cohort is the lower performing cohort in the county. doesn't help that their parent(s) are unskilled, uneducated and illiterate in any language.

2) More and more money gets shoveled at them trying to be their mothers, doctors, counselors, dentists, 24/7 food providers, ESOL teachers, and then maybe learn some math or reading before middle school. MS is when the pregnancy and drop-out rates skyrocket.

You are officially a self-entitled meanspirited parent here. An educated Populace serves us ALL, thus the children are being educated. I cant believe you are not in an alt Right group or swinging for Betsy Devos with the statements you are making.

DP here. In order for us to come up with a solution, we need to accept all facts. Nothing stated by the person you are responding to is untrue although they could've said it a nicer way. I think majority of us agree that we want an educated populace but in order to come up with solutions on how to achieve this, let's evaluate the data. Let's evaluate where we are spending the money and why.

Whoa there! It is certainly untrue that immigrants are all unskilled, uneducated, and illiterate. It is untrue that pregnancy and dropout rates skyrocket in middle school (?!). Hyperbole gets us nowhere here.

I missed something. Who said that immigrants are uneducated and illiterate?

I think the PP was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants.

As a legal immigrant, I would like to highlight that there IS a difference.

I bolded it for you. That's who I was responding to. It's hard to tell who the person is referring to because of the word salad that precedes it "Two-way swing with the Montgomery County ever-increasing illegals and anchor baby debacle." If you would like to assert that all hispanics -- or even all undocumented hispanics -- are unskilled, uneducated, and illiterate, you are engaging in hyperbole.

You can bold whatever you want, it's still pretty clear to everyone (by the sentence above your bold) that they were talking about illegal immigrants (not legal immigrants). I really hope you understand that it is a difference and that legal immigrants take offense when you lump everyone together. Please be more sensitive to this.

Speaking of sensitivity, please be sensitive to the socio-economic border wall that the OP suggests. Regardless of immigration status, your new school district is designed to keep working class immigrants out of your school system. Without the legal/illegal comparison there is still plenty of differentiation going on regarding immigration.

Filtering by social class is such an easy and broad filter to keep out people you consider undesirable. Keep trying!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland state law mandates county boards of education. You would either have to change the state law, or have Bethesda and Potomac secede from Montgomery County to form a new county. Good luck with that.

it would receive 95% of the vote from Bethesda and Potomac. It would be the sour grape foxes from the rest of the county who wouldn't let them go crying about paying for their stuff.

Hey Bethesda Magazine...get on this!

[Anonymous]

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Speaking of sensitivity, please be sensitive to the socio-economic border wall that the OP suggests. Regardless of immigration status, your new school district is designed to keep working class immigrants out of your school system. Without the legal/illegal comparison there is still plenty of differentiation going on regarding immigration.

Filtering by social class is such an easy and broad filter to keep out people you consider undesirable. Keep trying!

There is nothing stopping anyone from buying in Potomac/Bethesda. Working class immigrants are welcome here. They just have to pay the same housing prices as everyone else that lives in the area. Not having the money to afford the house or apt is not the same thing as not being welcomed. Show up with the money and the door will swing wide open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Speaking of sensitivity, please be sensitive to the socio-economic border wall that the OP suggests. Regardless of immigration status, your new school district is designed to keep working class immigrants out of your school system. Without the legal/illegal comparison there is still plenty of differentiation going on regarding immigration.

Filtering by social class is such an easy and broad filter to keep out people you consider undesirable. Keep trying!

There is nothing stopping anyone from buying in Potomac/Bethesda. Working class immigrants are welcome here. They just have to pay the same housing prices as everyone else that lives in the area. Not having the money to afford the house or apt is not the same thing as not being welcomed. Show up with the money and the door will swing wide open.

Woah dear...why are you spinning this like people want to move to Bethesda/Potomac? This is about the clear perimeter drawn to separate Bethedsa et al from the rest of the county along socio economic lines.