How to fit school days into Gov Larry Hogan's ridiculous policy on school start and stop dates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:23 out of 24 school districts are opposed to the executive order.

You mean the administration? The union? Clearly, many parents support it.

I'm not the PP, but no, the boards of education of the school districts. You know, the locally-elected people in charge of the schools..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Larry Hogan gets voted out next year, what can we do to get one of those sweet NY/NJ school calendars?

I'm all for a fall break, xmas break, winter break and a spring break!

Hogan has fixed the budget, increased tourism, made sure purple line started, and is widening 270 and the beltway on the MD side. All while having cancer. He isn't going anywhere and I say that as a Dem.

Maryland constitution requires a balanced budget, and Sen. Rich Madaleno and others helped to make Hogan's budget less Trumpian. Haven't seen any numbers saying that tourism has increased. There is no way Hogan gets credit for the purple line which many have had a hand in (mostly citizen activists). Widening of 270 might happen, but never 49. Never happening.

Voting for Hogan is a vote against the needs of citizens in MoCo and PG counties.

Ironically it was O'Malley that introduced the "Save the Summer" that everyone blames on Hogan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:23 out of 24 school districts are opposed to the executive order.

You mean the administration? The union? Clearly, many parents support it.

I'm not the PP, but no, the boards of education of the school districts. You know, the locally-elected people in charge of the schools..

Who cares? Of course they would. It doesn't give them a full say to start and stop school whenever they please. MCPS BOE was ready to start Aug 21st this year and have basically every other week 4 days. They are stomping their feet like little kids because they can't do whatever they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Larry Hogan gets voted out next year, what can we do to get one of those sweet NY/NJ school calendars?

I'm all for a fall break, xmas break, winter break and a spring break!

Hogan has fixed the budget, increased tourism, made sure purple line started, and is widening 270 and the beltway on the MD side. All while having cancer. He isn't going anywhere and I say that as a Dem.

Maryland constitution requires a balanced budget, and Sen. Rich Madaleno and others helped to make Hogan's budget less Trumpian. Haven't seen any numbers saying that tourism has increased. There is no way Hogan gets credit for the purple line which many have had a hand in (mostly citizen activists). Widening of 270 might happen, but never 49. Never happening.

Voting for Hogan is a vote against the needs of citizens in MoCo and PG counties.

Ironically it was O'Malley that introduced the "Save the Summer" that everyone blames on Hogan.

No, it wasn't. It was Peter Franchot, the comptroller. Governor O'Malley supported the idea, but "I think it's a good idea" is quite different from "I'm the governor, and I'm ordering you to do it."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:23 out of 24 school districts are opposed to the executive order.

You mean the administration? The union? Clearly, many parents support it.

I'm not the PP, but no, the boards of education of the school districts. You know, the locally-elected people in charge of the schools..

Who cares? Of course they would. It doesn't give them a full say to start and stop school whenever they please. MCPS BOE was ready to start Aug 21st this year and have basically every other week 4 days. They are stomping their feet like little kids because they can't do whatever they want.

Well, it did used to. But then the governor decided that it doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:23 out of 24 school districts are opposed to the executive order.

You mean the administration? The union? Clearly, many parents support it.

The school districts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:23 out of 24 school districts are opposed to the executive order.

You mean the administration? The union? Clearly, many parents support it.

I'm not the PP, but no, the boards of education of the school districts. You know, the locally-elected people in charge of the schools..

Who cares? Of course they would. It doesn't give them a full say to start and stop school whenever they please. MCPS BOE was ready to start Aug 21st this year and have basically every other week 4 days. They are stomping their feet like little kids because they can't do whatever they want.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Larry Hogan gets voted out next year, what can we do to get one of those sweet NY/NJ school calendars?

I'm all for a fall break, xmas break, winter break and a spring break!

Hogan has fixed the budget, increased tourism, made sure purple line started, and is widening 270 and the beltway on the MD side. All while having cancer. He isn't going anywhere and I say that as a Dem.

There are a lot of Democrats who are not going to vote for anybody with an R after their name in 2018, even if they are otherwise ok with that person.

Well, that's fine, but definitely silly IMO. You'd vote against a candidate, even if you agree with their views on policy. Just because they're a Republican. Honestly, you're just part of the problem with politics in this country then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Larry Hogan gets voted out next year, what can we do to get one of those sweet NY/NJ school calendars?

I'm all for a fall break, xmas break, winter break and a spring break!

Hogan has fixed the budget, increased tourism, made sure purple line started, and is widening 270 and the beltway on the MD side. All while having cancer. He isn't going anywhere and I say that as a Dem.

There are a lot of Democrats who are not going to vote for anybody with an R after their name in 2018, even if they are otherwise ok with that person.

Well, that's fine, but definitely silly IMO. You'd vote against a candidate, even if you agree with their views on policy. Just because they're a Republican. Honestly, you're just part of the problem with politics in this country then.

I think it's a mistake to consider an approval rating as agreement with views on policy. People like Hogan because he seems like a generally nice guy who has, generally, demonstrated that there is still one moderate Republican in elective office. But that's no reason to vote for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:23 out of 24 school districts are opposed to the executive order.

You mean the administration? The union? Clearly, many parents support it.

I'm not the PP, but no, the boards of education of the school districts. You know, the locally-elected people in charge of the schools..

Who cares? Of course they would. It doesn't give them a full say to start and stop school whenever they please. MCPS BOE was ready to start Aug 21st this year and have basically every other week 4 days. They are stomping their feet like little kids because they can't do whatever they want.

Well, it did used to. But then the governor decided that it doesn't.

That is why I like Hogan. Otherwise my daughter would have had to turn down a summer internship to start field hockey on Aug 2nd this past summer, which is ridiculous. My older kids need the longer summers for jobs and 8wk internships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mistake to consider an approval rating as agreement with views on policy. People like Hogan because he seems like a generally nice guy who has, generally, demonstrated that there is still one moderate Republican in elective office. But that's no reason to vote for him.

People like him because he's competent and he gets things done. As I said up-thread, for someone else to get elected, he'll have to make a major mistake AND the Democratic Party is going to need to put up a competent candidate that has state-wide support instead of just support in one or two counties. Anthony Brown lost because he was incompetent. It was his election to win and he lost based on the fact that his major signature work during his term as Lt Governor was to screw up the ACA registration site so badly that MD residents almost lost the opportunity to sign up for the Democratic party signature insurance plans. The only reason he won his next election was because none of the other Democratic candidates had state-wide recognition and his Republican opponent was unelectable in MD. Right now, there is no Democratic candidate that has enough state-wide appeal to beat Hogan. The most competent is Rushern Baker and outside of PG County, he won't have a lot of support. Same for Madeleno and Montgomery County. None of the other candidates have any name recognition at all. It's a year from the election and there is no front-runner or even broad appeal from the Democratic slate.

[Anonymous]

I live in Chevy Chase, was strongly against the purple line, and would vote for Governor Hogan based solely on his calling MoCo BOE on their bullshit. This BOE's hand-wringing over how to create a school schedule is ridiculous. The email is a ploy to raise ire, which has and will backfire on them.

I've lived here long enough to see their patterns of incompetence, they canceled an excessive amount of school days one year at the mere appearance or forecast of a snowflake and when the state would not grant them a waiver that year, they straightened up the next and were judicious in their selection of snow days. I can't tell you how many times my children have come home and when asked what they did in school replied "nothing, we have a Wednesday off and a half day so the teacher said she does not want to start something new because we'll forget it by Monday" they would do busy work or read quietly in classes.

The reason this school system does well is that well-educated parents make up for the shortcomings of the school. We both have advanced degrees, if my children don't understand something, we can explain it or can easily find it on the internet. This is not true for immigrant families or ones without a formal education.

If you want to close the achievement gap, start having whole weeks of school and provide Math and English books and a curriculum that doesn't consist of error-filled worksheets. I came from an immigrant family, smart people but they could not help with homework, I had books with specific examples that I could reference at home, those don't exist in our schools. Even with a computer a non-english speaker is going to have a difficult time sorting through the 100's of hits for homework help. At my child's elementary school teachers spend more time making worksheet copies than grading, on the very little work that comes home, there are no meaningful grades or comments.

If Governor Hogan is able to do something about the ridiculous half days I will volunteer to go door to door for him. They do nothing on half days either, there's not enough time, but they have lunch so it counts as full educational day. It's yet another complete waste of an opportunity to educate.

Again, the children of affluence have parents with the knowledge and resources to make up for the shortcomings of the school system, but that is not true for all. Some children really need the full instructional day/week and are really hurt by the hodgepodge rhythmn of the school year and while it is nice to offer religious holidays, it's not necessary.

I didn't vote for Hogan, but I will next time, it's about time an adult was put in charge.

The BOE's manipulative play about making up snow days during spring break is akin to a child throwing a temper tantrum when they get a boundary placed on their behavior.

[Anonymous]

I agree. All of the half days need to go away.
Paired with the longer summer which was a great success. Hogan would get my vote.

Half days in MCPS are a joke. And cost parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in Chevy Chase, was strongly against the purple line, and would vote for Governor Hogan based solely on his calling MoCo BOE on their bullshit. This BOE's hand-wringing over how to create a school schedule is ridiculous. The email is a ploy to raise ire, which has and will backfire on them.

I've lived here long enough to see their patterns of incompetence, they canceled an excessive amount of school days one year at the mere appearance or forecast of a snowflake and when the state would not grant them a waiver that year, they straightened up the next and were judicious in their selection of snow days. I can't tell you how many times my children have come home and when asked what they did in school replied "nothing, we have a Wednesday off and a half day so the teacher said she does not want to start something new because we'll forget it by Monday" they would do busy work or read quietly in classes.

The reason this school system does well is that well-educated parents make up for the shortcomings of the school. We both have advanced degrees, if my children don't understand something, we can explain it or can easily find it on the internet. This is not true for immigrant families or ones without a formal education.

If you want to close the achievement gap, start having whole weeks of school and provide Math and English books and a curriculum that doesn't consist of error-filled worksheets. I came from an immigrant family, smart people but they could not help with homework, I had books with specific examples that I could reference at home, those don't exist in our schools. Even with a computer a non-english speaker is going to have a difficult time sorting through the 100's of hits for homework help. At my child's elementary school teachers spend more time making worksheet copies than grading, on the very little work that comes home, there are no meaningful grades or comments.

If Governor Hogan is able to do something about the ridiculous half days I will volunteer to go door to door for him. They do nothing on half days either, there's not enough time, but they have lunch so it counts as full educational day. It's yet another complete waste of an opportunity to educate.

Again, the children of affluence have parents with the knowledge and resources to make up for the shortcomings of the school system, but that is not true for all. Some children really need the full instructional day/week and are really hurt by the hodgepodge rhythmn of the school year and while it is nice to offer religious holidays, it's not necessary.

I didn't vote for Hogan, but I will next time, it's about time an adult was put in charge.

The BOE's manipulative play about making up snow days during spring break is akin to a child throwing a temper tantrum when they get a boundary placed on their behavior.

2 years ago, as soon as Hogan told MCPS BOE (who was the only county who didn't even attempt to use their contingency plan) to shove their snow waiver up their ass (well he didn't say that but it would have been better if he did) I told my husband he has my vote next election. Then he told them to better handle their budget instead of asking for more money all of the time? HEAVEN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mistake to consider an approval rating as agreement with views on policy. People like Hogan because he seems like a generally nice guy who has, generally, demonstrated that there is still one moderate Republican in elective office. But that's no reason to vote for him.

People like him because he's competent and he gets things done. As I said up-thread, for someone else to get elected, he'll have to make a major mistake AND the Democratic Party is going to need to put up a competent candidate that has state-wide support instead of just support in one or two counties. Anthony Brown lost because he was incompetent. It was his election to win and he lost based on the fact that his major signature work during his term as Lt Governor was to screw up the ACA registration site so badly that MD residents almost lost the opportunity to sign up for the Democratic party signature insurance plans. The only reason he won his next election was because none of the other Democratic candidates had state-wide recognition and his Republican opponent was unelectable in MD. Right now, there is no Democratic candidate that has enough state-wide appeal to beat Hogan. The most competent is Rushern Baker and outside of PG County, he won't have a lot of support. Same for Madeleno and Montgomery County. None of the other candidates have any name recognition at all. It's a year from the election and there is no front-runner or even broad appeal from the Democratic slate.

Specifically, what?