Lamar Odom fighting for life. Found at Bunny Ranch brothel
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Anonymous
Your experience based on one person/2 incidents? Not exactly scientific. |
Anonymous
I can't imagine that you could put your body through all of that - literally going on life support TWICE because you overdosed your body with drugs - and bounce back to the same old, same old bad habits. Yes, of course they can choose not to change their lifestyle but they won't be able to do that for long. It is going to be the death of them. Plus, their health is not going to be the same after an episode like this - you can't fry your vital organs like that and expect to feel fabulous. |
Anonymous
| How is lamar alert and stable after being on the brink of death a matter of days ago? Were we hearing the worst case scenarios with the reports of being brain dead, kidney failure, every kind of drug in his system. Or am I suckered by tabloid media? |
Anonymous
Sadly, I know lots of addicts--in my family, in friends' families. And my FT job and volunteerism is in the homeless arena (where addiction is rather routine). But honestly, when you have sat vigil at dozens of hospitals over two decades as your sibling battles addiction, you know a little something about addiction. Here it goes: an addict will not magically stop because a doctor tells them they must. It's literally a 50-50 shot: some addicts hit a point and are equipped to fight, while others just can't (or won't...it's impossible to know the difference). |
Anonymous
I don't get this either. |
Anonymous
They don't bounce back to 100%. They are a shell of their former self. They aren't as sharp or quick. They have medical issues. It's not pretty. The hospital detox helps. Their bodies heal. But most addicts will hit a bump down the road and start up again. If he has an entourage of enablers, then he will relapse. That's probably how he got where he is to begin with. And why Rob is where he is. |
Anonymous
AGAIN, ADDICTION IS NOT LOGICAL. A person who is addicted to something, in their sober moments, will fiercely vow to do better for their spouse or kids, to fix themselves, to "just stop doing it." Then the dark thoughts set in. Whatever twisted thing in them that pulls them toward self destruction comes alive. They are not in control of themselves in those times. The addiction is. They are no more choosing to hurt their families and be a fuck up than those who commit suicide are CHOOSING to die. They truly feel they have no other option. |
Anonymous
Yea except for the glaring fact that they made the conscious decision to CHOOSE to do illegal drugs in the first place and get hooked on them. Someone that commits suicide due to depression did not choose to become depressed. And yea some people turn to drugs because of depression. But in cases like this where there is fame and money involved, it is frequently just a part of the lifestyle that they gave in to as a way to cope with stress. I'm stressed like crazy at this point in my life. I chose not to turn to drugs as the answer. Lamar went the other way. |
Anonymous
See this is where I'm coming from, too. |
Anonymous
Yeah. He's probably done some permanent irreversible damage to his body. It IS sad especially since he had the resources to get help and all the reasons in the world to want to get help. I understand that addiction is tough. But this guy most certainly did have choices, he just chose very unwisely. |
Anonymous
You can be "stable" and still in serious condition. "Stable" doesn't equate to "ready to be discharged." I don't believe reports that he is actively texting with friends. |
Anonymous
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TMZ Live ?
UPDATE: Lamar Odom will survive with months of rehabiltation and Khloe Kardashian will be right by his side. http://bit.ly/1RjS1GE |
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I posted this in another thread and I am reposting it here.
“Kardashian reality star? No, no, no no. Lamar Odom, unlike those for whom fame is oxygen, whose fame comes in the absence of accomplishment, his fame was earned,” he said on his new “SportsCenter” show. “As sixth man of the year, as a multiple NBA champion. As the result of his significant role of the Los Angeles Lakers teams and being a beloved NBA teammate and peer.” There was a time when Odom’s talent was so formidable that he was compared to Magic Johnson. He won two titles with the Lakers and remains beloved by his former teammates. HoopsHype reminds us that only five players have averaged at least 13 points, eight rebounds and 3.5 assists per game this century and, yes, the “Kardashian reality show star” is one of them." - Scott Van Pelt, ESPN Scott Van Pelt Commentary https://youtu.be/1zlo2bG5vBs Article: Please Stop Calling Lamar Odom A Kardashian Reality Star https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2015/10/15/please-stop-calling-lamar-odom-a-kardashian-reality-star/ About Lamar Odom http://www.biography.com/people/lamar-odom-21215477 |
Anonymous
You're both poorly informed about addiction. |
Anonymous
| Addiction, depression are both mental illnesses that impact a person's decision making process. Very often, someone that is experiencing this type of mental illness has to make a committment to work very hard (with medication, therapy, and a strong support system) to overcome the power of the illness, create a new path, and LEARN to make better choices. Poor environments, circumstances, and reactions to poor choices =/= increased ability or motivation for an addict to change. It takes mental awareness and a network of professional support. |