Worried about son's circumcision

[Anonymous]

Can we just end this? Clearly there are people on both sides and there always will be. It's your son and only you, as his mother, are entitled to make the decision.

[Anonymous]

Except her boyfriend steamrolled her and made the decision himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Except her boyfriend steamrolled her and made the decision himself.

And that affects you how?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Except her boyfriend steamrolled her and made the decision himself.

Inaccurate paraphrasing. Accurate quote: "My boyfriend would be pissed if I did that, I let him make this decision, but I was on the fence about it after the doctor said he wouldn't use pain relief. My boyfriend still wants it done though."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's creepy that you all care so much about my son's penis.

People often care when innocents are subjected to pain and suffering.

It's creepy. So focused on genitals.

I know who you are from back when you used a screen name. It is so bizarre that you say this same thing all of the time. I think it's child abuse. People speaking up against female genital mutilation aren't "obsessed with the vulvas" of girls in developing countries; they're trying to protect these girls from harm. Same goes for penises. I could not care less about your kids' penis, but I sure do look down on you and feel sorry for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except her boyfriend steamrolled her and made the decision himself.

Inaccurate paraphrasing. Accurate quote: "My boyfriend would be pissed if I did that, I let him make this decision, but I was on the fence about it after the doctor said he wouldn't use pain relief. My boyfriend still wants it done though."

Ummm nope. That's what she claimed when she didn't get the answers she wanted. Initially she said it was his choice and he would be mad if she went against him. Also your quote - but he would be MAD! - just proves my point.

Does it affect me? Nope. Just addressing PP who says everyone should shut up because it was ONLY MOMS CHOICE. OP could have not asked here and never heard a word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except her boyfriend steamrolled her and made the decision himself.

Inaccurate paraphrasing. Accurate quote: "My boyfriend would be pissed if I did that, I let him make this decision, but I was on the fence about it after the doctor said he wouldn't use pain relief. My boyfriend still wants it done though."

Ummm nope. That's what she claimed when she didn't get the answers she wanted. Initially she said it was his choice and he would be mad if she went against him. Also your quote - but he would be MAD! - just proves my point.

Does it affect me? Nope. Just addressing PP who says everyone should shut up because it was ONLY MOMS CHOICE. OP could have not asked here and never heard a word.

Him being mad isn't bulldozing her NOR is it inappropriate. If you had a situation with your husband that was similar, I'm sure you'd be mad, too. For example, if you and your husband spoke and disagreed on an issue (to have plastic surgery to lesson a facial scar, bracesn teeth, going on Ritalin, etc.) and your husband said, it was your choice and then right before you implemented your choice, you told him you changed your mind, wouldn't you be mad, too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we just end this? Clearly there are people on both sides and there always will be. It's your son and only you, as his mother, are entitled to make the decision.

No, you really are not entitled to that decision. It's your son's penis, not yours. This is about your newborn's rights to bodily integrity, and that is why people who realize this won't shut up. If the medical reasons were truly compelling, it might be a different story, but they aren't. Otherwise the US wouldn't be the only developed country that promotes circumcision.

[Anonymous]

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My son cried more at his first bath than the circumcision. Guess we shouldn't have ever given him a bath since it made him uncomfortable.

You post this on every circumcision thread, I suppose you think it is clever, but it really isn't. I hope you reflect a little more seriously about this issue before you make such an irreversible decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except her boyfriend steamrolled her and made the decision himself.

Inaccurate paraphrasing. Accurate quote: "My boyfriend would be pissed if I did that, I let him make this decision, but I was on the fence about it after the doctor said he wouldn't use pain relief. My boyfriend still wants it done though."

Ummm nope. That's what she claimed when she didn't get the answers she wanted. Initially she said it was his choice and he would be mad if she went against him. Also your quote - but he would be MAD! - just proves my point.

Does it affect me? Nope. Just addressing PP who says everyone should shut up because it was ONLY MOMS CHOICE. OP could have not asked here and never heard a word.

Him being mad isn't bulldozing her NOR is it inappropriate. If you had a situation with your husband that was similar, I'm sure you'd be mad, too. For example, if you and your husband spoke and disagreed on an issue (to have plastic surgery to lesson a facial scar, bracesn teeth, going on Ritalin, etc.) and your husband said, it was your choice and then right before you implemented your choice, you told him you changed your mind, wouldn't you be mad, too?

Apples and oranges. Her husband was gung-ho from the start so she felt she had to agree by her own explanation even though she was unsure. THAT is the unhealthy BS. Can't relate to your "example" because I would never marry someone who would support unnecessary surgery in a newborn, and facial surgery to fix a scar is totally different than circumcision. Sorry you believe the Man Is The Master BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just end this? Clearly there are people on both sides and there always will be. It's your son and only you, as his mother, are entitled to make the decision.

No, you really are not entitled to that decision. It's your son's penis, not yours. This is about your newborn's rights to bodily integrity, and that is why people who realize this won't shut up. If the medical reasons were truly compelling, it might be a different story, but they aren't. Otherwise the US wouldn't be the only developed country that promotes circumcision.

It's not even promoted by anyone qualified to remark on it. The medical community is neutral.

It's popular. For no good reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just end this? Clearly there are people on both sides and there always will be. It's your son and only you, as his mother, are entitled to make the decision.

No, you really are not entitled to that decision. It's your son's penis, not yours. This is about your newborn's rights to bodily integrity, and that is why people who realize this won't shut up. If the medical reasons were truly compelling, it might be a different story, but they aren't. Otherwise the US wouldn't be the only developed country that promotes circumcision.

THIS. Bodily autonomy is hugely important. Kids are people too, and if a decision to do something to irreversibly alter someone else's body can be delayed until such time as the person is able to make and communicate an informed decision regarding the procedure, I think it should be delayed until consent can be obtained from the person whose body it is. I don't own my kids' bodies, and I won't make permanent decisions for my kids and their bodies that require causing any sort of harm, pain, or alteration unless there's no other medically sound choice and it's a time-sensitive situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just end this? Clearly there are people on both sides and there always will be. It's your son and only you, as his mother, are entitled to make the decision.

No, you really are not entitled to that decision. It's your son's penis, not yours. This is about your newborn's rights to bodily integrity, and that is why people who realize this won't shut up. If the medical reasons were truly compelling, it might be a different story, but they aren't. Otherwise the US wouldn't be the only developed country that promotes circumcision.

If there was even the slightest medical benefit to doing it -- WHICH THERE IS, then you can justify it as a parent doing what you think is best for your child. Especially given that you DON'T NEED FORESKIN. You can't say there isn't any benefit when the science tell us there is. Are you anti-vaccination too because it hurts to get a needle? Would you not advise your son to get his wisdom teeth taken out to prevent impaction and nerve damage down the road?

[Anonymous]

Here. I hope this ends the conversation on whether there are medical benefits to circumcision. THERE ARE:

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) says the benefits of circumcision outweigh the risks, and they leave the final decision to the parents.

BENEFITS:
Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis.
Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The overall risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later on.
Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.
Prevention of penile problems. Occasionally, the foreskin on an uncircumcised penis can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the penis.
Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the penis is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/basics/why-its-done/prc-20013585

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My son cried more at his first bath than the circumcision. Guess we shouldn't have ever given him a bath since it made him uncomfortable.

You post this on every circumcision thread, I suppose you think it is clever, but it really isn't. I hope you reflect a little more seriously about this issue before you make such an irreversible decision.

I say it because it's true. People should hear the truth, which is that the procedure is no big deal. Really, it's laughable and pathetic that you've made it a human rights issue. It's simple cleanliness and provides many health benefits.