Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

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Anonymous wrote:They were hoping to find DNA on the pants found nearby the skeleton.

If the woman had checked her property, like a decent human being, this would be resolved by now.

I can't remember the last time I was in my backyard. If there was something back there, it's been there since I don't know when. We really only use it in the summer when life slows down.

So we wouldn't be decent human beings I guess.

Was there a murder nearby, and did authorities make several public pleas for you to check for evidence so obviously needed? That woman is nothing but a lazy yahoo.

There are 3 other neighbors that back up to this creek. Not just the one lady but 3 other families could not be bothered to look on the surrounding property. a couple of acres, not mountains, in late summer/fall weather. You know that if someone outside that region ventured on to that land for a night or 2, the local cops would have been called.

Morgan Harrington's mother, Gil, has never met Blaine Eichner. In fact, she never knew the name of the man who found her daughter's T-shirt. "It was pivotal," Harrington tells WTOP. "It was also concerning." The out-in-the-open discovery of her daughter's Pantera shirt is telling, in Harrington's mind. "To have blatantly taken the most obvious, identifiable item that law enforcement was asking for, and kind of draping it like a trophy displayed a certain type of bravado that was chilling to me," says Harrington. "It really seemed like a trophy presentation of a pretty serious predator," says Harrington.

Read more: http://www.wtop.com/41/3727505/Man-describes-finding-key-piece-of-evidence-linking-Harrington-murder-Fairfax-rape-case#ixzz3GvV3v3VN

I think it is terrible that the property owners couldn't be bothered. I own an empty wooded lot in another state and if something similar happened, at the very least I would call the homeowner's association and the police and ask if someone could walk the property. Many people never want to get involved or bother to take the extra time to report something or someone suspicious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They were hoping to find DNA on the pants found nearby the skeleton.

If the woman had checked her property, like a decent human being, this would be resolved by now.

I can't remember the last time I was in my backyard. If there was something back there, it's been there since I don't know when. We really only use it in the summer when life slows down.

So we wouldn't be decent human beings I guess.

Was there a murder nearby, and did authorities make several public pleas for you to check for evidence so obviously needed? That woman is nothing but a lazy yahoo.

There are 3 other neighbors that back up to this creek. Not just the one lady but 3 other families could not be bothered to look on the surrounding property. a couple of acres, not mountains, in late summer/fall weather. You know that if someone outside that region ventured on to that land for a night or 2, the local cops would have been called.

Morgan Harrington's mother, Gil, has never met Blaine Eichner. In fact, she never knew the name of the man who found her daughter's T-shirt. "It was pivotal," Harrington tells WTOP. "It was also concerning." The out-in-the-open discovery of her daughter's Pantera shirt is telling, in Harrington's mind. "To have blatantly taken the most obvious, identifiable item that law enforcement was asking for, and kind of draping it like a trophy displayed a certain type of bravado that was chilling to me," says Harrington. "It really seemed like a trophy presentation of a pretty serious predator," says Harrington.

Read more: http://www.wtop.com/41/3727505/Man-describes-finding-key-piece-of-evidence-linking-Harrington-murder-Fairfax-rape-case#ixzz3GvV3v3VN

I think it is terrible that the property owners couldn't be bothered. I own an empty wooded lot in another state and if something similar happened, at the very least I would call the homeowner's association and the police and ask if someone could walk the property. Many people never want to get involved or bother to take the extra time to report something or someone suspicious.

Just how do you know that the property owner didn’t have the property searched or have someone else walk the property? YOU DON’T! Perhaps they did and found nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were hoping to find DNA on the pants found nearby the skeleton.

If the woman had checked her property, like a decent human being, this would be resolved by now.

I can't remember the last time I was in my backyard. If there was something back there, it's been there since I don't know when. We really only use it in the summer when life slows down.

So we wouldn't be decent human beings I guess.

Was there a murder nearby, and did authorities make several public pleas for you to check for evidence so obviously needed? That woman is nothing but a lazy yahoo.

There are 3 other neighbors that back up to this creek. Not just the one lady but 3 other families could not be bothered to look on the surrounding property. a couple of acres, not mountains, in late summer/fall weather. You know that if someone outside that region ventured on to that land for a night or 2, the local cops would have been called.

Morgan Harrington's mother, Gil, has never met Blaine Eichner. In fact, she never knew the name of the man who found her daughter's T-shirt. "It was pivotal," Harrington tells WTOP. "It was also concerning." The out-in-the-open discovery of her daughter's Pantera shirt is telling, in Harrington's mind. "To have blatantly taken the most obvious, identifiable item that law enforcement was asking for, and kind of draping it like a trophy displayed a certain type of bravado that was chilling to me," says Harrington. "It really seemed like a trophy presentation of a pretty serious predator," says Harrington.

Read more: http://www.wtop.com/41/3727505/Man-describes-finding-key-piece-of-evidence-linking-Harrington-murder-Fairfax-rape-case#ixzz3GvV3v3VN

I think it is terrible that the property owners couldn't be bothered. I own an empty wooded lot in another state and if something similar happened, at the very least I would call the homeowner's association and the police and ask if someone could walk the property. Many people never want to get involved or bother to take the extra time to report something or someone suspicious.

Just how do you know that the property owner didn’t have the property searched or have someone else walk the property? YOU DON’T! Perhaps they did and found nothing.

Yes. A body isn't always laying there in the open waiting to be found. On heavily wooded property it can be very difficult to find human remains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a question - if the DNA from the Fairfax rape and the Harrington murder are a match, why hasn't Matthew been officially charged with the Harrington murder as well? I don't know what DNA evidence they found in the Harrington murder but if it wasn't semen could the defense be that she was just a passenger in his cab? Just wondering.

I was wondering the same thing, but the WTOP link that PP posted implies that the DNA that matched the Fairfax case was found on the Pantera shirt. Previously I assumed that the link to the Fairfax case was made from DNA found on Morgan's body or at the scene where her body was recovered. If the DNA came from the shirt, depending on what type of DNA it is, maybe not enough of a link for a charge?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a question - if the DNA from the Fairfax rape and the Harrington murder are a match, why hasn't Matthew been officially charged with the Harrington murder as well? I don't know what DNA evidence they found in the Harrington murder but if it wasn't semen could the defense be that she was just a passenger in his cab? Just wondering.

I was wondering the same thing, but the WTOP link that PP posted implies that the DNA that matched the Fairfax case was found on the Pantera shirt. Previously I assumed that the link to the Fairfax case was made from DNA found on Morgan's body or at the scene where her body was recovered. If the DNA came from the shirt, depending on what type of DNA it is, maybe not enough of a link for a charge?

I think they have a shot at lining up an airtight case against this guy for multiple assaults/murders and they're taking the time to make sure everything is in perfect order.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a question - if the DNA from the Fairfax rape and the Harrington murder are a match, why hasn't Matthew been officially charged with the Harrington murder as well? I don't know what DNA evidence they found in the Harrington murder but if it wasn't semen could the defense be that she was just a passenger in his cab? Just wondering.

I was wondering the same thing, but the WTOP link that PP posted implies that the DNA that matched the Fairfax case was found on the Pantera shirt. Previously I assumed that the link to the Fairfax case was made from DNA found on Morgan's body or at the scene where her body was recovered. If the DNA came from the shirt, depending on what type of DNA it is, maybe not enough of a link for a charge?

Yeah if the DNA is from the shirt, the defense could claim a passenger left it in his cab and another passenger picked it up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a question - if the DNA from the Fairfax rape and the Harrington murder are a match, why hasn't Matthew been officially charged with the Harrington murder as well? I don't know what DNA evidence they found in the Harrington murder but if it wasn't semen could the defense be that she was just a passenger in his cab? Just wondering.

I was wondering the same thing, but the WTOP link that PP posted implies that the DNA that matched the Fairfax case was found on the Pantera shirt. Previously I assumed that the link to the Fairfax case was made from DNA found on Morgan's body or at the scene where her body was recovered. If the DNA came from the shirt, depending on what type of DNA it is, maybe not enough of a link for a charge?

Yeah if the DNA is from the shirt, the defense could claim a passenger left it in his cab and another passenger picked it up.

I think they have a witness who saw her getting into a cab, and they know that he was on duty that night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question - if the DNA from the Fairfax rape and the Harrington murder are a match, why hasn't Matthew been officially charged with the Harrington murder as well? I don't know what DNA evidence they found in the Harrington murder but if it wasn't semen could the defense be that she was just a passenger in his cab? Just wondering.

I was wondering the same thing, but the WTOP link that PP posted implies that the DNA that matched the Fairfax case was found on the Pantera shirt. Previously I assumed that the link to the Fairfax case was made from DNA found on Morgan's body or at the scene where her body was recovered. If the DNA came from the shirt, depending on what type of DNA it is, maybe not enough of a link for a charge?

I think they have a shot at lining up an airtight case against this guy for multiple assaults/murders and they're taking the time to make sure everything is in perfect order.

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I lived it up and sometimes (often) engaged in drunken shenanigans when I was in college. Accepting rides, going places with people I didn't know but they were all other college kids. I don't see myself (or one of my college friends) accepting a ride from an older townie like JM UNLESS I had seen him around before (maybe at the hospital or walking to/from the hospital) and I let my guard down because I was intoxicated...or unless he had fed me a line about being a cab driver and showed me one of his old IDs. I also think it's a little odd that a second year student was lost in downtown Charlottesville. I wonder if it's possible that Hannah KNEW that she was drunk when she got turned away from the one bar and then decided to take a little jog/walk in an attempt to sober herself up a little bit so that she could continue to stay out partying. Maybe she knew that her friends would give her a hard time if she was too toasted and that they would insist on escorting her home. I'm just trying to imagine how she ended up doing what she did that night. How she crossed paths with that monster and willingly got into his car....

But, yes, I can see how I could have EASILY wound up the same way that Hannah did. JM was a predator on the hunt and Hannah was just such an easy, innocent and unsuspecting target. You can see it in the surveillance videos. Hannah has really struck a nerve with so many of us. Such a beautiful, cherished life gone forever.


I agree...can not ever imagine accepting ride from older townie either. I also can't imagine I would have been cool with aforementioned townie just coming up to me and putting his arm around me (no matter how drunk I was...one thing if it was hot college guy but now sketchy dreads dude -- yes, call me a racist, but that's what my 19 year old self would have thought). I wonder if she was just being "nice." That's what gets so many girls in trouble.






There is something odd about it. I don't think it's a racial thing at all - lots of inter racial dating on campus these days. It's simply a matter of that big, physically imposing man coming up behind her and throwing his arm around her like that and she doesn't reflexively pull away to at least see who the he** he is. Granted she was pretty drunk and used to being around friendly drunk college guys. But JM was not only big/friendly/drunk, he was nearly twice her age and he LOOKS like an older guy. And she was in a strange part of town away from familiar faces...

I'm not sure what to make of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were hoping to find DNA on the pants found nearby the skeleton.

If the woman had checked her property, like a decent human being, this would be resolved by now.

I can't remember the last time I was in my backyard. If there was something back there, it's been there since I don't know when. We really only use it in the summer when life slows down.

So we wouldn't be decent human beings I guess.

Was there a murder nearby, and did authorities make several public pleas for you to check for evidence so obviously needed? That woman is nothing but a lazy yahoo.

There are 3 other neighbors that back up to this creek. Not just the one lady but 3 other families could not be bothered to look on the surrounding property. a couple of acres, not mountains, in late summer/fall weather. You know that if someone outside that region ventured on to that land for a night or 2, the local cops would have been called.

Morgan Harrington's mother, Gil, has never met Blaine Eichner. In fact, she never knew the name of the man who found her daughter's T-shirt. "It was pivotal," Harrington tells WTOP. "It was also concerning." The out-in-the-open discovery of her daughter's Pantera shirt is telling, in Harrington's mind. "To have blatantly taken the most obvious, identifiable item that law enforcement was asking for, and kind of draping it like a trophy displayed a certain type of bravado that was chilling to me," says Harrington. "It really seemed like a trophy presentation of a pretty serious predator," says Harrington.

Read more: http://www.wtop.com/41/3727505/Man-describes-finding-key-piece-of-evidence-linking-Harrington-murder-Fairfax-rape-case#ixzz3GvV3v3VN

I think it is terrible that the property owners couldn't be bothered. I own an empty wooded lot in another state and if something similar happened, at the very least I would call the homeowner's association and the police and ask if someone could walk the property. Many people never want to get involved or bother to take the extra time to report something or someone suspicious.

The homeowner's association? My god, the privilege on DCUM never stops. Do you have any idea of what a true rural location is like? There is no homeowner's association. You all really have no clue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question - if the DNA from the Fairfax rape and the Harrington murder are a match, why hasn't Matthew been officially charged with the Harrington murder as well? I don't know what DNA evidence they found in the Harrington murder but if it wasn't semen could the defense be that she was just a passenger in his cab? Just wondering.

I was wondering the same thing, but the WTOP link that PP posted implies that the DNA that matched the Fairfax case was found on the Pantera shirt. Previously I assumed that the link to the Fairfax case was made from DNA found on Morgan's body or at the scene where her body was recovered. If the DNA came from the shirt, depending on what type of DNA it is, maybe not enough of a link for a charge?

Yeah if the DNA is from the shirt, the defense could claim a passenger left it in his cab and another passenger picked it up.

I think they have a witness who saw her getting into a cab, and they know that he was on duty that night.

This makes me sad because it emphasizes how close he was to being caught years ago. MH Last seen getting in taxi + a taxi driver on duty that night looked like the sketch of a suspect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were hoping to find DNA on the pants found nearby the skeleton.

If the woman had checked her property, like a decent human being, this would be resolved by now.

I can't remember the last time I was in my backyard. If there was something back there, it's been there since I don't know when. We really only use it in the summer when life slows down.

So we wouldn't be decent human beings I guess.

Was there a murder nearby, and did authorities make several public pleas for you to check for evidence so obviously needed? That woman is nothing but a lazy yahoo.

There are 3 other neighbors that back up to this creek. Not just the one lady but 3 other families could not be bothered to look on the surrounding property. a couple of acres, not mountains, in late summer/fall weather. You know that if someone outside that region ventured on to that land for a night or 2, the local cops would have been called.

Morgan Harrington's mother, Gil, has never met Blaine Eichner. In fact, she never knew the name of the man who found her daughter's T-shirt. "It was pivotal," Harrington tells WTOP. "It was also concerning." The out-in-the-open discovery of her daughter's Pantera shirt is telling, in Harrington's mind. "To have blatantly taken the most obvious, identifiable item that law enforcement was asking for, and kind of draping it like a trophy displayed a certain type of bravado that was chilling to me," says Harrington. "It really seemed like a trophy presentation of a pretty serious predator," says Harrington.

Read more: http://www.wtop.com/41/3727505/Man-describes-finding-key-piece-of-evidence-linking-Harrington-murder-Fairfax-rape-case#ixzz3GvV3v3VN

I think it is terrible that the property owners couldn't be bothered. I own an empty wooded lot in another state and if something similar happened, at the very least I would call the homeowner's association and the police and ask if someone could walk the property. Many people never want to get involved or bother to take the extra time to report something or someone suspicious.

The homeowner's association? My god, the privilege on DCUM never stops. Do you have any idea of what a true rural location is like? There is no homeowner's association. You all really have no clue.

Have you taken a look at the pricing on some of the nearby homes? There may not be an HOA in that area, it may be secluded/rural but there are big homes worth millions nearby, too. That doesn't mean that the owners of this particular property where the remains were found are wealthy/privileged by any stretch. But I would imagine that there must be someone in the area that can be called on to keep an eye out on some of those $$$$ properties while the owners are away on vacation, etc. This is not to say that the owners of the property in question could have afforded to pay someone to walk the property or knew anyone that would be willing to do it, of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were hoping to find DNA on the pants found nearby the skeleton.

If the woman had checked her property, like a decent human being, this would be resolved by now.

I can't remember the last time I was in my backyard. If there was something back there, it's been there since I don't know when. We really only use it in the summer when life slows down.

So we wouldn't be decent human beings I guess.

Was there a murder nearby, and did authorities make several public pleas for you to check for evidence so obviously needed? That woman is nothing but a lazy yahoo.

There are 3 other neighbors that back up to this creek. Not just the one lady but 3 other families could not be bothered to look on the surrounding property. a couple of acres, not mountains, in late summer/fall weather. You know that if someone outside that region ventured on to that land for a night or 2, the local cops would have been called.

Morgan Harrington's mother, Gil, has never met Blaine Eichner. In fact, she never knew the name of the man who found her daughter's T-shirt. "It was pivotal," Harrington tells WTOP. "It was also concerning." The out-in-the-open discovery of her daughter's Pantera shirt is telling, in Harrington's mind. "To have blatantly taken the most obvious, identifiable item that law enforcement was asking for, and kind of draping it like a trophy displayed a certain type of bravado that was chilling to me," says Harrington. "It really seemed like a trophy presentation of a pretty serious predator," says Harrington.

Read more: http://www.wtop.com/41/3727505/Man-describes-finding-key-piece-of-evidence-linking-Harrington-murder-Fairfax-rape-case#ixzz3GvV3v3VN

I think it is terrible that the property owners couldn't be bothered. I own an empty wooded lot in another state and if something similar happened, at the very least I would call the homeowner's association and the police and ask if someone could walk the property. Many people never want to get involved or bother to take the extra time to report something or someone suspicious.

The homeowner's association? My god, the privilege on DCUM never stops. Do you have any idea of what a true rural location is like? There is no homeowner's association. You all really have no clue.

Have you taken a look at the pricing on some of the nearby homes? There may not be an HOA in that area, it may be secluded/rural but there are big homes worth millions nearby, too. That doesn't mean that the owners of this particular property where the remains were found are wealthy/privileged by any stretch. But I would imagine that there must be someone in the area that can be called on to keep an eye out on some of those $$$$ properties while the owners are away on vacation, etc. This is not to say that the owners of the property in question could have afforded to pay someone to walk the property or knew anyone that would be willing to do it, of course.

Just stop. You sound more ridiculous with every post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were hoping to find DNA on the pants found nearby the skeleton.

If the woman had checked her property, like a decent human being, this would be resolved by now.

I can't remember the last time I was in my backyard. If there was something back there, it's been there since I don't know when. We really only use it in the summer when life slows down.

So we wouldn't be decent human beings I guess.

Was there a murder nearby, and did authorities make several public pleas for you to check for evidence so obviously needed? That woman is nothing but a lazy yahoo.

There are 3 other neighbors that back up to this creek. Not just the one lady but 3 other families could not be bothered to look on the surrounding property. a couple of acres, not mountains, in late summer/fall weather. You know that if someone outside that region ventured on to that land for a night or 2, the local cops would have been called.

Morgan Harrington's mother, Gil, has never met Blaine Eichner. In fact, she never knew the name of the man who found her daughter's T-shirt. "It was pivotal," Harrington tells WTOP. "It was also concerning." The out-in-the-open discovery of her daughter's Pantera shirt is telling, in Harrington's mind. "To have blatantly taken the most obvious, identifiable item that law enforcement was asking for, and kind of draping it like a trophy displayed a certain type of bravado that was chilling to me," says Harrington. "It really seemed like a trophy presentation of a pretty serious predator," says Harrington.

Read more: http://www.wtop.com/41/3727505/Man-describes-finding-key-piece-of-evidence-linking-Harrington-murder-Fairfax-rape-case#ixzz3GvV3v3VN

I think it is terrible that the property owners couldn't be bothered. I own an empty wooded lot in another state and if something similar happened, at the very least I would call the homeowner's association and the police and ask if someone could walk the property. Many people never want to get involved or bother to take the extra time to report something or someone suspicious.

The homeowner's association? My god, the privilege on DCUM never stops. Do you have any idea of what a true rural location is like? There is no homeowner's association. You all really have no clue.

Have you taken a look at the pricing on some of the nearby homes? There may not be an HOA in that area, it may be secluded/rural but there are big homes worth millions nearby, too. That doesn't mean that the owners of this particular property where the remains were found are wealthy/privileged by any stretch. But I would imagine that there must be someone in the area that can be called on to keep an eye out on some of those $$$$ properties while the owners are away on vacation, etc. This is not to say that the owners of the property in question could have afforded to pay someone to walk the property or knew anyone that would be willing to do it, of course.

Just stop. You sound more ridiculous with every post.

Stop what? Tell me what is so ridiculous about what I said?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were hoping to find DNA on the pants found nearby the skeleton.

If the woman had checked her property, like a decent human being, this would be resolved by now.

I can't remember the last time I was in my backyard. If there was something back there, it's been there since I don't know when. We really only use it in the summer when life slows down.

So we wouldn't be decent human beings I guess.

Was there a murder nearby, and did authorities make several public pleas for you to check for evidence so obviously needed? That woman is nothing but a lazy yahoo.

There are 3 other neighbors that back up to this creek. Not just the one lady but 3 other families could not be bothered to look on the surrounding property. a couple of acres, not mountains, in late summer/fall weather. You know that if someone outside that region ventured on to that land for a night or 2, the local cops would have been called.

Morgan Harrington's mother, Gil, has never met Blaine Eichner. In fact, she never knew the name of the man who found her daughter's T-shirt. "It was pivotal," Harrington tells WTOP. "It was also concerning." The out-in-the-open discovery of her daughter's Pantera shirt is telling, in Harrington's mind. "To have blatantly taken the most obvious, identifiable item that law enforcement was asking for, and kind of draping it like a trophy displayed a certain type of bravado that was chilling to me," says Harrington. "It really seemed like a trophy presentation of a pretty serious predator," says Harrington.

Read more: http://www.wtop.com/41/3727505/Man-describes-finding-key-piece-of-evidence-linking-Harrington-murder-Fairfax-rape-case#ixzz3GvV3v3VN

I think it is terrible that the property owners couldn't be bothered. I own an empty wooded lot in another state and if something similar happened, at the very least I would call the homeowner's association and the police and ask if someone could walk the property. Many people never want to get involved or bother to take the extra time to report something or someone suspicious.

The homeowner's association? My god, the privilege on DCUM never stops. Do you have any idea of what a true rural location is like? There is no homeowner's association. You all really have no clue.

I said that is what I would do. She could have just as easily called the police. They only had billboards up all over the place and stories on the news 24/7. Is it that hard to make a call from your armchair and say "I own a wooded lot with abandoned buildings on it and I can't check it myself but could you send a few officers out?". Done.