To WP: What Can Black People Do to Improve Race Relations in this Country?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Black man here,
If I had ever mentioned slavery as an excuse for my behavior or outcomes, my dad would've beat the shit out of me (like a slave). That excuse is tired and when I hear it, I immediately write that person off because I know that whatever happens in their life, they will do absolutely nothing to make it better. These are not the type of people that I like to work, play, or associate with.

How do you feel about blacks who see racist motives everywhere and talk about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop saying the playing field is not level. It's not easy being white either. White people have to work and pay their dues and often times are passed over in hiring and promotions because companies want to balance their demographics.

In many if not most cases when two candidates black and white who are equally qualified the job will go to the black candidate. Blacks got cheated out of their wealth and their legacies. They deserved to benefit from Affirmative Action, but the time has come to stop claiming they are victims today.

You're delusional. As you look around your company, take note of how many minorities are in supervisory/managerial positions. Take a look at those who are on your Board of Directors and/or those who hold Executive positions in your company. I'm willing to bet that the blacks in your company are in administrative roles. We are overrepresented there, not so much when it comes to positions that involve the title Manager/Director/VP, EVP, etc.

BTW, do some research on how blacks who are college educated are unemployed at a great percentage to similarly educated white people. Also look up how white FELONS are hired at a greater rate than non-felon blacks. Then take a look around DCUM and see how many judge resumes by the names on them.

Oh here we go again, you don't agree with me and that immediately makes me insane. Don't you get tired of personal attacking individuals?

I said in situations of equally qualified candidates the black candidate will be hired before the white candidate. What you are asking for is for less qualified black candidates to be hired simply because they are black. As long as blacks claim to be victims and entitled to jobs for which they are less qualified than the competition, they will never be taken seriously.

Blacks only need to make themselves equal to the competition and they will get the job every time. Stop believing it is easy to be white. White people have to apply to colleges, internships, jobs and promotions. White people experience plenty of disappointments along the way. When white people compete on equal footing with blacks, blacks are hired first because companies want to balance their demographics. It's not any easier to be white than it is to be black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Black man here,
If I had ever mentioned slavery as an excuse for my behavior or outcomes, my dad would've beat the shit out of me (like a slave). That excuse is tired and when I hear it, I immediately write that person off because I know that whatever happens in their life, they will do absolutely nothing to make it better. These are not the type of people that I like to work, play, or associate with.

Question for you: when have you ever heard it used as an excuse? In what context?

And your quip about being beaten like a slave was not funny. In fact, it was in extremely poor taste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Black man here,
If I had ever mentioned slavery as an excuse for my behavior or outcomes, my dad would've beat the shit out of me (like a slave). That excuse is tired and when I hear it, I immediately write that person off because I know that whatever happens in their life, they will do absolutely nothing to make it better. These are not the type of people that I like to work, play, or associate with.

How do you feel about blacks who see racist motives everywhere and talk about it?

He just said how he feels about such individuals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop saying the playing field is not level. It's not easy being white either. White people have to work and pay their dues and often times are passed over in hiring and promotions because companies want to balance their demographics.

In many if not most cases when two candidates black and white who are equally qualified the job will go to the black candidate. Blacks got cheated out of their wealth and their legacies. They deserved to benefit from Affirmative Action, but the time has come to stop claiming they are victims today.

You're delusional. As you look around your company, take note of how many minorities are in supervisory/managerial positions. Take a look at those who are on your Board of Directors and/or those who hold Executive positions in your company. I'm willing to bet that the blacks in your company are in administrative roles. We are overrepresented there, not so much when it comes to positions that involve the title Manager/Director/VP, EVP, etc.

BTW, do some research on how blacks who are college educated are unemployed at a great percentage to similarly educated white people. Also look up how white FELONS are hired at a greater rate than non-felon blacks. Then take a look around DCUM and see how many judge resumes by the names on them.

Oh here we go again, you don't agree with me and that immediately makes me insane. Don't you get tired of personal attacking individuals?

I said in situations of equally qualified candidates the black candidate will be hired before the white candidate. What you are asking for is for less qualified black candidates to be hired simply because they are black. As long as blacks claim to be victims and entitled to jobs for which they are less qualified than the competition, they will never be taken seriously.

Blacks only need to make themselves equal to the competition and they will get the job every time. Stop believing it is easy to be white. White people have to apply to colleges, internships, jobs and promotions. White people experience plenty of disappointments along the way. When white people compete on equal footing with blacks, blacks are hired first because companies want to balance their demographics. It's not any easier to be white than it is to be black.

Again, you are wrong and research proves you are wrong. Look up the stats on the unemployment rate for college educated blacks and whites. Who suffer the highest unemployment rate? And what about the study where white FELONS were hired over blacks with no criminal record?

I see you disregarded my point about position levels. It is fairly accurate to say that blacks are primarily relegated to admin/support positions. White women benefit the most from affirmative action. They are usually found in exec positions at a higher rate than minorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
What I take away from these is spdiscussions is that we will have racial tension until the end of humanity.


I agree. Blame the white man. They introduced the concept of race and it's a bit difficult to erase hundreds of years of manipulation.

Everyone has a choice. You obviously are choosing to hate an entire race for something that only a few (and yes, in the larger scheme it was only a few) participated in. Sadly, slavery has been around since the beginning of time and was present in other cultures (e,g., African, Incan, etc.) long before the white man entered the scene. Perhaps people will eventually learn that hatred consumes its host. It doesn't harm the target.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Black man here,
If I had ever mentioned slavery as an excuse for my behavior or outcomes, my dad would've beat the shit out of me (like a slave). That excuse is tired and when I hear it, I immediately write that person off because I know that whatever happens in their life, they will do absolutely nothing to make it better. These are not the type of people that I like to work, play, or associate with.

Question for you: when have you ever heard it used as an excuse? In what context?

And your quip about being beaten like a slave was not funny. In fact, it was in extremely poor taste.

Well you could start with reading about the past 35 posts on this blog and why don't you let the man describe his life experiences in his own words. Demonstrate your own genuine thought process not simply the ability to parse other people's phrases and thoughts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Black man here,
If I had ever mentioned slavery as an excuse for my behavior or outcomes, my dad would've beat the shit out of me (like a slave). That excuse is tired and when I hear it, I immediately write that person off because I know that whatever happens in their life, they will do absolutely nothing to make it better. These are not the type of people that I like to work, play, or associate with.

How do you feel about blacks who see racist motives everywhere and talk about it?

He just said how he feels about such individuals.

No he didn't. He said he doesn't associate with people who use slavery as an excuse. That is different from people who are quick to point out potential racist motives. They are not saying they cannot get ahead or do better but believe there is a sinister motives everywhere even when there may be none.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I take away from these is spdiscussions is that we will have racial tension until the end of humanity.

But all we have to do is follow the advice in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous



As stated by Walter Williams, "In sports, when have you heard a coach explain or excuse a black player's poor performance by blaming it on a "legacy of slavery" or on that player's being raised in a single-parent household? When have you heard sports standards called racist or culturally biased? I have yet to hear a player, much less a coach, speak such nonsense. In fact, the standards of performance in sports are just about the most ruthless anywhere. Excuses are not tolerated.


Stop making excuses.


Mr. Williams was spot on.

Will one of our AA posters please respond to Mr. Williams?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
What I take away from these is spdiscussions is that we will have racial tension until the end of humanity.


But all we have to do is follow the advice in this thread.

Hate "the white man" for acts committed lay a few long before ant of us were born and never, ever, ever make an effort to move forward?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I take away from these is spdiscussions is that we will have racial tension until the end of humanity.

But all we have to do is follow the advice in this thread.

And what was the take away? Blacks should quit complaining and work hard for their future?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop saying the playing field is not level. It's not easy being white either. White people have to work and pay their dues and often times are passed over in hiring and promotions because companies want to balance their demographics.

In many if not most cases when two candidates black and white who are equally qualified the job will go to the black candidate. Blacks got cheated out of their wealth and their legacies. They deserved to benefit from Affirmative Action, but the time has come to stop claiming they are victims today.

You're delusional. As you look around your company, take note of how many minorities are in supervisory/managerial positions. Take a look at those who are on your Board of Directors and/or those who hold Executive positions in your company. I'm willing to bet that the blacks in your company are in administrative roles. We are overrepresented there, not so much when it comes to positions that involve the title Manager/Director/VP, EVP, etc.

BTW, do some research on how blacks who are college educated are unemployed at a great percentage to similarly educated white people. Also look up how white FELONS are hired at a greater rate than non-felon blacks. Then take a look around DCUM and see how many judge resumes by the names on them.

Oh really? My CEO is African American, she is great at her job, and I don't give her race a second thought. Stop whining.

[Anonymous]

Let's see if OP will provide a summary since she's so concerned with improving race relations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What I take away from these is spdiscussions is that we will have racial tension until the end of humanity.


I agree. Blame the white man. They introduced the concept of race and it's a bit difficult to erase hundreds of years of manipulation.

Everyone has a choice. You obviously are choosing to hate an entire race for something that only a few (and yes, in the larger scheme it was only a few) participated in. Sadly, slavery has been around since the beginning of time and was present in other cultures (e,g., African, Incan, etc.) long before the white man entered the scene. Perhaps people will eventually learn that hatred consumes its host. It doesn't harm the target.

This is not about blaming or hating anyone. It's simply stating facts.