VA SCOTUS oral arguments

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Anonymous wrote:SCOTUS won’t take the case, more time and money wasted by VA democrats.

I can’t even with this lawyer brain. This was a decision by republican politicians to help out other republican politicians. So now they want to appeal to yet another group of republican politicians? Gee guys, I wonder what they’ll do? They might as well appeal to a committee of Donald Trump, Mike Johnson, and John Thune.

Seriously. I thought democrats were starting to get it, but this move just shows they still don’t. Apparently even after Calais, Virginia democrats still think SCOTUS is some neutral forum that will fairly apply the law.

I’m not sure what it’s going to take to get it through their thick skulls. How about they take a page from how republicans have reacted to court losses?

They could look at Ohio republicans and just ignore their state Supreme Court.

Or they could look at Utah republicans, who launched a bad faith investigation of a justice who ruled against them and forced her to resign.

Or they want a veneer of legality around it, they could get creative and lower the retirement age for Supreme Court justices to 70, forcing one of the justices who ruled against them off the bench, immediately appoint a replacement, and get the case reheard.

Okay. Say the Supremes overturn the referendum ruling.
You do know that the Dems appealed to the VASC to delay the ruling (prior to the election) because of the Virginia law--you know, the law they are NOW complaining about with the timing of the election.

GOP has also filed against the referendum results on the basis of the lack of "neutral language" in it. VA Supremes did not rule on that because they already overruled the referendum.
I don't understand how this all works, but if the US Supremes rule in favor of the Dems, does that case still get considered?

Why are you wasting time thinking about things that won’t happen. The Supreme Court is controlled by republicans and will vote for republican interests. Why can’t democrats understand that? It’s like you guys just can’t let go of this fairy tale that the Supreme Court has anything to do with law or justice. They are politicians in robes. Accept that and act accordingly.

So make them do it. Don't pre-surrender. Make them do what we all know they are going to do. Hem them in and expose the partisan bs for the partisan bs it is.

Whether State Constitutions, State Courts, State Electorates, and State Governors even have any say in federal elections is something this partisan SCOTUS (and the GOP) has been flirting with and was the legal cover for what they were trying to do on Jan 6th.

Louisiana is talking about cancelling an election that is ongoing right now in order to redistrict after the VRA decision.

Make SCOTUS either rule against those shenanigans or overturn the Virginia Courts decision. There are broader implications involved. What's good for the goose must be good for the gander. Not making them choose is a flight of idiocy.

Make them do what? This is a state issue, the Supreme Court will never take this case. This another laughable attempt by libs to cheat.

Rule against the Indepent Legislature Theory which believes that State Legislatures, and only State Legislatures, have complete and final say on all things regarding elections, including determing who won, regardless of what the voters, state courts or state constitutions might say.

It's a ridiculous theory pushed by the GOP on Jan 6th that hasn't been explicitly repudiated. If it were true then the State court ruling (and referendum) wouldn't matter.

[Anonymous]

I just don't care anymore. I am doing great financially, and rising gas prices, health insurance costs, and grocery costs don't matter to me. If this is what the MAGAs want, so be it. Let them win the midterms, and the country will deteriorate more and their lives will get worse, and maybe by 2028 they'll finally wake up. I'll be fine regardless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't care anymore. I am doing great financially, and rising gas prices, health insurance costs, and grocery costs don't matter to me. If this is what the MAGAs want, so be it. Let them win the midterms, and the country will deteriorate more and their lives will get worse, and maybe by 2028 they'll finally wake up. I'll be fine regardless.

The pattern is already set in stone for the next 20 years. Republicans will control national elections and most state governorships and legislators. Democrats will run major metropolitan areas. The country will fracture further. If not already one of the haves, life will be hard. Going to have to hit rock bottom before things change and a long way from rock bottom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't care anymore. I am doing great financially, and rising gas prices, health insurance costs, and grocery costs don't matter to me. If this is what the MAGAs want, so be it. Let them win the midterms, and the country will deteriorate more and their lives will get worse, and maybe by 2028 they'll finally wake up. I'll be fine regardless.

The pattern is already set in stone for the next 20 years. Republicans will control national elections and most state governorships and legislators. Democrats will run major metropolitan areas. The country will fracture further. If not already one of the haves, life will be hard. Going to have to hit rock bottom before things change and a long way from rock bottom.

That’s fine. When Democrats win and try to fix the messes created by republicans, they just get blamed for not fixing the problems quickly enough. Let republicans remain in power, and hopefully there will then be no doubt as to which party is the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SCOTUS won’t take the case, more time and money wasted by VA democrats.

I can’t even with this lawyer brain. This was a decision by republican politicians to help out other republican politicians. So now they want to appeal to yet another group of republican politicians? Gee guys, I wonder what they’ll do? They might as well appeal to a committee of Donald Trump, Mike Johnson, and John Thune.

Reminds me of Demi Moore's 'strenous objection' in A Few Good Men.

Just so embarassing.

LOL!

They can’t handle the truth either

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SCOTUS won’t take the case, more time and money wasted by VA democrats.

I can’t even with this lawyer brain. This was a decision by republican politicians to help out other republican politicians. So now they want to appeal to yet another group of republican politicians? Gee guys, I wonder what they’ll do? They might as well appeal to a committee of Donald Trump, Mike Johnson, and John Thune.

Seriously. I thought democrats were starting to get it, but this move just shows they still don’t. Apparently even after Calais, Virginia democrats still think SCOTUS is some neutral forum that will fairly apply the law.

I’m not sure what it’s going to take to get it through their thick skulls. How about they take a page from how republicans have reacted to court losses?

They could look at Ohio republicans and just ignore their state Supreme Court.

Or they could look at Utah republicans, who launched a bad faith investigation of a justice who ruled against them and forced her to resign.

Or they want a veneer of legality around it, they could get creative and lower the retirement age for Supreme Court justices to 70, forcing one of the justices who ruled against them off the bench, immediately appoint a replacement, and get the case reheard.

Okay. Say the Supremes overturn the referendum ruling.
You do know that the Dems appealed to the VASC to delay the ruling (prior to the election) because of the Virginia law--you know, the law they are NOW complaining about with the timing of the election.

GOP has also filed against the referendum results on the basis of the lack of "neutral language" in it. VA Supremes did not rule on that because they already overruled the referendum.
I don't understand how this all works, but if the US Supremes rule in favor of the Dems, does that case still get considered?

Why are you wasting time thinking about things that won’t happen. The Supreme Court is controlled by republicans and will vote for republican interests. Why can’t democrats understand that? It’s like you guys just can’t let go of this fairy tale that the Supreme Court has anything to do with law or justice. They are politicians in robes. Accept that and act accordingly.

So make them do it. Don't pre-surrender. Make them do what we all know they are going to do. Hem them in and expose the partisan bs for the partisan bs it is.

Whether State Constitutions, State Courts, State Electorates, and State Governors even have any say in federal elections is something this partisan SCOTUS (and the GOP) has been flirting with and was the legal cover for what they were trying to do on Jan 6th.

Louisiana is talking about cancelling an election that is ongoing right now in order to redistrict after the VRA decision.

Make SCOTUS either rule against those shenanigans or overturn the Virginia Courts decision. There are broader implications involved. What's good for the goose must be good for the gander. Not making them choose is a flight of idiocy.

And on what ground would they overturn the VA Supreme Court's ruling on what the Virginia Constitution says? SCOTUS has no say, unless there was some sort of due process issue which there is not. You seem to think you will make them go on record but that is not what would happen. They would just deny cert without comment. There is nothing partisan in this one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't care anymore. I am doing great financially, and rising gas prices, health insurance costs, and grocery costs don't matter to me. If this is what the MAGAs want, so be it. Let them win the midterms, and the country will deteriorate more and their lives will get worse, and maybe by 2028 they'll finally wake up. I'll be fine regardless.

The pattern is already set in stone for the next 20 years. Republicans will control national elections and most state governorships and legislators. Democrats will run major metropolitan areas. The country will fracture further. If not already one of the haves, life will be hard. Going to have to hit rock bottom before things change and a long way from rock bottom.

Pratt has a great chance at becoming LA’s next Mayor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SCOTUS won’t take the case, more time and money wasted by VA democrats.

I can’t even with this lawyer brain. This was a decision by republican politicians to help out other republican politicians. So now they want to appeal to yet another group of republican politicians? Gee guys, I wonder what they’ll do? They might as well appeal to a committee of Donald Trump, Mike Johnson, and John Thune.

Seriously. I thought democrats were starting to get it, but this move just shows they still don’t. Apparently even after Calais, Virginia democrats still think SCOTUS is some neutral forum that will fairly apply the law.

I’m not sure what it’s going to take to get it through their thick skulls. How about they take a page from how republicans have reacted to court losses?

They could look at Ohio republicans and just ignore their state Supreme Court.

Or they could look at Utah republicans, who launched a bad faith investigation of a justice who ruled against them and forced her to resign.

Or they want a veneer of legality around it, they could get creative and lower the retirement age for Supreme Court justices to 70, forcing one of the justices who ruled against them off the bench, immediately appoint a replacement, and get the case reheard.

Okay. Say the Supremes overturn the referendum ruling.
You do know that the Dems appealed to the VASC to delay the ruling (prior to the election) because of the Virginia law--you know, the law they are NOW complaining about with the timing of the election.

GOP has also filed against the referendum results on the basis of the lack of "neutral language" in it. VA Supremes did not rule on that because they already overruled the referendum.
I don't understand how this all works, but if the US Supremes rule in favor of the Dems, does that case still get considered?

Why are you wasting time thinking about things that won’t happen. The Supreme Court is controlled by republicans and will vote for republican interests. Why can’t democrats understand that? It’s like you guys just can’t let go of this fairy tale that the Supreme Court has anything to do with law or justice. They are politicians in robes. Accept that and act accordingly.

So make them do it. Don't pre-surrender. Make them do what we all know they are going to do. Hem them in and expose the partisan bs for the partisan bs it is.

Whether State Constitutions, State Courts, State Electorates, and State Governors even have any say in federal elections is something this partisan SCOTUS (and the GOP) has been flirting with and was the legal cover for what they were trying to do on Jan 6th.

Louisiana is talking about cancelling an election that is ongoing right now in order to redistrict after the VRA decision.

Make SCOTUS either rule against those shenanigans or overturn the Virginia Courts decision. There are broader implications involved. What's good for the goose must be good for the gander. Not making them choose is a flight of idiocy.

Make them do what? This is a state issue, the Supreme Court will never take this case. This another laughable attempt by libs to cheat.

It’ll just add another “L” to match the number of L’s in L. Louise Lucas’s name.

+1
Has Louise reacted to this news? It does delight me to think of her seething, and in the middle of her corruption probe, too.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spanberger voter here who has never voted for Trump.

The Dems continue to disappoint us moderates. Trying to disenfranchise voters through gerrymandering, the wording of the amendment language, etc.

The MAGA politicians are horrible. Absolutely horrible. But the Dems continue to prove themselves no better. Sigh.

I guess it is back to third party.

“No better”?

BoThSiDeS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spanberger voter here who has never voted for Trump.

The Dems continue to disappoint us moderates. Trying to disenfranchise voters through gerrymandering, the wording of the amendment language, etc.

The MAGA politicians are horrible. Absolutely horrible. But the Dems continue to prove themselves no better. Sigh.

I guess it is back to third party.

“No better”?

BoThSiDeS

I agree with the pp. I always vote blue because I like making my own medical decisions, but the dems just continue to make strategic mistakes. It’s…not great. This was also a strategic mistake in a big way. I think we’re going to be in this for a good long time to come. I don’t know how we get back to the middle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spanberger voter here who has never voted for Trump.

The Dems continue to disappoint us moderates. Trying to disenfranchise voters through gerrymandering, the wording of the amendment language, etc.

The MAGA politicians are horrible. Absolutely horrible. But the Dems continue to prove themselves no better. Sigh.

I guess it is back to third party.

“No better”?

BoThSiDeS

I agree with the pp. I always vote blue because I like making my own medical decisions, but the dems just continue to make strategic mistakes. It’s…not great. This was also a strategic mistake in a big way. I think we’re going to be in this for a good long time to come. I don’t know how we get back to the middle.

You believe that Democrats are “no better” than Republicans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spanberger voter here who has never voted for Trump.

The Dems continue to disappoint us moderates. Trying to disenfranchise voters through gerrymandering, the wording of the amendment language, etc.

The MAGA politicians are horrible. Absolutely horrible. But the Dems continue to prove themselves no better. Sigh.

I guess it is back to third party.

“No better”?

BoThSiDeS

I agree with the pp. I always vote blue because I like making my own medical decisions, but the dems just continue to make strategic mistakes. It’s…not great. This was also a strategic mistake in a big way. I think we’re going to be in this for a good long time to come. I don’t know how we get back to the middle.

You believe that Democrats are “no better” than Republicans?

DP. They’re not. If you believe otherwise, bless your heart!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spanberger voter here who has never voted for Trump.

The Dems continue to disappoint us moderates. Trying to disenfranchise voters through gerrymandering, the wording of the amendment language, etc.

The MAGA politicians are horrible. Absolutely horrible. But the Dems continue to prove themselves no better. Sigh.

I guess it is back to third party.

“No better”?

BoThSiDeS

I agree with the pp. I always vote blue because I like making my own medical decisions, but the dems just continue to make strategic mistakes. It’s…not great. This was also a strategic mistake in a big way. I think we’re going to be in this for a good long time to come. I don’t know how we get back to the middle.

You believe that Democrats are “no better” than Republicans?

Worst

[Anonymous]

Spanberger and the democratic legislators over the top agenda this legislative session led to a purple result in the referendum. VA is a purple state and will remain so. How Spanberger handles the remaining bills on her desk following the special session will decide the results of the upcoming Congressional midterms in VA. She best use her veto power wisely, but most likely will just cower in her office and do nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spanberger voter here who has never voted for Trump.

The Dems continue to disappoint us moderates. Trying to disenfranchise voters through gerrymandering, the wording of the amendment language, etc.

The MAGA politicians are horrible. Absolutely horrible. But the Dems continue to prove themselves no better. Sigh.

I guess it is back to third party.

“No better”?

BoThSiDeS

I agree with the pp. I always vote blue because I like making my own medical decisions, but the dems just continue to make strategic mistakes. It’s…not great. This was also a strategic mistake in a big way. I think we’re going to be in this for a good long time to come. I don’t know how we get back to the middle.

You believe that Democrats are “no better” than Republicans?

DP. They’re not. If you believe otherwise, bless your heart!

Anyone who believes this is either a f-ing idiot or a huge a-hole. Or both.