Why are WASP so elite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Significant drop off after Bowdoin among NESCACs. Middlebury is a pauper compared to Amherst, Williams, and Bowdoin. Times change and Colby might also soon pass Midd and definitely Hamilton.

Colby's endowment is 2/3 of Middlebury's as someone pointed out earlier. Colby is similar to Hamilton in terms of endowment.

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Anonymous wrote:So Midd boosters admit enrollment is falling, endowment is stagnant and just gave the boot to long time President. Seems like a school that is clearly treading water and will never catch Bowdoin.

You're dense. Middlebury has been overenrolled since 2020 and had to pay students $10K to take a semester off. The decline in enrollment is purposeful and designed to return the college to pre-COVID numbers.

And the departure of Laurie Patton is the best thing that could have happened to Middlebury. She turned a blind eye to a decade of budget deficits, allowed MIIS to drag down the undergraduate college, and was responsible for the team that mismanaged enrollment. Good riddance!

Ian Baucom is getting sh!t done!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury boosters and there seems to be more than a few are in denial. Midd is a top 15-20 school and better hope the floor doesn’t collapse.

If it's such a terrible school, why are you so threatened by Middlebury?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course Bowdoin is tier 1. It’s ranked 5th by US News and has a 7% acceptance rate.

And higher yield than any other WASP. Great endowment. Noticeable drop off after Bowdoin. Hence WASP-B.

My only qualm here is that Bowdoin's current popularity is driven primarily by student interest in good dorms and good food, not academics per se. I'm not sure the outcomes are quite on par with the more long-standing tier 1 schools. Its probably too soon to tell.

This whole thread has devolved into nonsense because the Bowdoin and Colby boosters each desperately trying to tie themselves to another group (WASP and Middlebury) but anyone saying that Bowdoin interest is driven by dorms and food is just stupid. It's a great school. Colby is a great school as well.

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Anonymous wrote:So Midd boosters admit enrollment is falling, endowment is stagnant and just gave the boot to long time President. Seems like a school that is clearly treading water and will never catch Bowdoin.

You're dense. Middlebury has been overenrolled since 2020 and had to pay students $10K to take a semester off. The decline in enrollment is purposeful and designed to return the college to pre-COVID numbers.

And the departure of Laurie Patton is the best thing that could have happened to Middlebury. She turned a blind eye to a decade of budget deficits, allowed MIIS to drag down the undergraduate college, and was responsible for the team that mismanaged enrollment. Good riddance!

Ian Baucom is getting sh!t done!

I sense a tacit agreement that Midd went down the last decade. I do hope it stabilizes, but don’t pretend it belongs with WASP-B.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps they don't want to give out Ivy-tier signaling.

Most of these second tier LACs are where wealthy Americans would send their kids generation after generation. They care about education quality, kids get great education at these places but at the same time is not cutthroat.

The kids will go to great med schools law schools and PhD after graduation, and become good doctors, lawyers, and scholars. Quietly raise their next generation of kids.

Then repeat the cycle.

Immigrant parents don't care about these schools. American wealthy don't want them to care either.

If one were to consider these for their high-stats Caucasian child, would it be a safe assumption there are fewer Asians at these schools than others?

If so, that's only because children of Asian immigrant parents have not typically been steered toward these schools. I think that's changing though. SLACs might still not be their first choice but they might consider them if their kids don't get into a T-10 school. Post SC decision, it seems clear the Asian demographic at elite schools has gone up. My WASP kid has plenty of Asian classmates.

My guess is that there are Wasian kids there.
And the true Asian kids now will send their next generation Wasians back.

There are a lot of Wasian kids at these schools, particularly from the CA population.

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Anonymous wrote:So Midd boosters admit enrollment is falling, endowment is stagnant and just gave the boot to long time President. Seems like a school that is clearly treading water and will never catch Bowdoin.

Someone is hitting the pipe.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of anyone choose middlebury over cornell.

A kid in our town received offers to play football at Cornell, U Chicago, JHU, Wesleyan, and Carleton this fall and just committed to Middlebury. I don't want to post his name here, but he goes to St. Ignatius and you can find it on social media.

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US News matters less every year; it has long since jumped the shark. Try to develop views independent of US News’ latest intern.

US News is as critical to making a college decision as is a piece of toilet paper. It means nothing. Nothing.

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Obviously not too many math majors graduate from Middlebury. Midd enrollment 2700 last reported endowment $1.6 billion. Colby 2400 kids end $1.2 billion. Get the calculator out, Colby’s endowment is higher than 2/3% of Midd.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of anyone choose middlebury over cornell.

A kid in our town received offers to play football at Cornell, U Chicago, JHU, Wesleyan, and Carleton this fall and just committed to Middlebury. I don't want to post his name here, but he goes to St. Ignatius and you can find it on social media.

It is inappropriate to out any individual student. You are a jerk.

[Anonymous]

Middle…bury is aptly named given the current pecking order of the NESCAC.

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Anonymous wrote:So Midd boosters admit enrollment is falling, endowment is stagnant and just gave the boot to long time President. Seems like a school that is clearly treading water and will never catch Bowdoin.

You're dense. Middlebury has been overenrolled since 2020 and had to pay students $10K to take a semester off. The decline in enrollment is purposeful and designed to return the college to pre-COVID numbers.

And the departure of Laurie Patton is the best thing that could have happened to Middlebury. She turned a blind eye to a decade of budget deficits, allowed MIIS to drag down the undergraduate college, and was responsible for the team that mismanaged enrollment. Good riddance!

Ian Baucom is getting sh!t done!

I sense a tacit agreement that Midd went down the last decade. I do hope it stabilizes, but don’t pretend it belongs with WASP-B.

If we're talking about USNews (which seems to be the main driver of what people here consider a "top" school), then it's been the last 5ish years. Middlebury ranked #5 in 2019 (tied with Bowdoin).

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of anyone choose middlebury over cornell.

A kid in our town received offers to play football at Cornell, U Chicago, JHU, Wesleyan, and Carleton this fall and just committed to Middlebury. I don't want to post his name here, but he goes to St. Ignatius and you can find it on social media.

It is inappropriate to out any individual student. You are a jerk.

How is it inappropriate to "out" a student who posted all of those offers on social media, along with their decision on where to enroll (which currently has 5.6K views)?

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Anonymous wrote:Middle…bury is aptly named given the current pecking order of the NESCAC.

lol Sounds more like it's buried half way underground.