Just found out my nephew isnt vaccinated at all

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Anonymous wrote:I was absolutely shocked to find out yesterday that my nephew isnt vaccinated at all. This is the first person that I know of in my family/friend circle.

What does this mean for my kids? Would you stop regular get-togethers?

My kids have gotten all the vaccines required for school in our state, so I would consider myself pretty middle of the road regarding vaccines. (Although my kids didn't get the COVID shot and we didn't get COVID boosters, so I guess some here on DCUM would consider me an anti-vaxxer.) Basically, I recognize the huge benefits that vaccines have had to public health while also recognizing that some vaccines have a clearer cost/benefit than others. I think the ability to discuss vaccines with this level of nuance would take a lot of the teeth out of the vaccine-skeptic movement.

All that being said, I genuinely don't understand this type of neurotic pearl-clutching. I think parents who refuse all vaccines are misguided, but I don't think it's worth ruining your kids' relationship with their cousin over it.

Same but my kids did get the Covid shot.

I think it’s in society’s best interest to be vaccinated but I would not react so emotionally over the top as some posters suggest.

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I would care because even though my kids are vaccinated, no vaccine is 100% effective for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are fully vaccinated, including Covid shots and flu vaccines. Unless your kids are medically fragile, I would not keep them away from their cousins. The people on this thread are ridiculous.

Also, your kids WILL be around unvaccinated people, including at school (people get medical or religious exemptions)— you just won’t know it. If your kids are healthy and vaccinated themselves, they will be fine.

So because your kid sometimes licks poles, you should let them lick all poles even the ones you know are filthy?

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are fully vaccinated, including Covid shots and flu vaccines. Unless your kids are medically fragile, I would not keep them away from their cousins. The people on this thread are ridiculous.

Also, your kids WILL be around unvaccinated people, including at school (people get medical or religious exemptions)— you just won’t know it. If your kids are healthy and vaccinated themselves, they will be fine.

So because your kid sometimes licks poles, you should let them lick all poles even the ones you know are filthy?

If your kids are licking the faces of their cousins, you have other issues going on.

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Our friends didn’t vaccinate their kids and I asked our pediatrician about it; she said not to bring a baby around them, but the kids are much more at risk than ours (who are vaccinated), so not to worry too much.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are fully vaccinated, including Covid shots and flu vaccines. Unless your kids are medically fragile, I would not keep them away from their cousins. The people on this thread are ridiculous.

Also, your kids WILL be around unvaccinated people, including at school (people get medical or religious exemptions)— you just won’t know it. If your kids are healthy and vaccinated themselves, they will be fine.

So because your kid sometimes licks poles, you should let them lick all poles even the ones you know are filthy?

If your kids are licking the faces of their cousins, you have other issues going on.

You aren’t very smart are you?

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FYI, kid with measles was in DC 1/7 to 1/9. Hope all yoir kids are vax.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

I’m really happy your kids are perfectly healthy, and I sincerely hope they remain that way. Do you realize that one of the factors that has probably contributed to their health is herd immunity, and that it’s breaking down?

A vaccine won’t make a difference to a child who is never exposed to the disease it was designed to prevent. Because the vast majority of people are vaccinated with highly effective vaccines, your kids have basically been encircled by a fence creating a wide buffer zone making it unlikely that their immune system would ever be confronted with the disease.

However, each person who isn’t vaccinated creates a hole in that fence and reduces the safety zone around your children (just as their lack of vaccination does to others). There won’t be a problem, unless the disease is able to exploit one of those holes so that the chain of exposed patients pierces that safety zone. Should that happen, your kids immune systems will have to fight off that disease without the preparation a vaccine could have provided them.

Here are some short videos from an ER pediatrician about vaccines:

Thanks for your concern but we know what we’re doing. My husband grew up the same way we’re raising our kids and rarely ever got sick. They’ll be okay.

Maybe they will, maybe they won't. This is the same complete lack of logic people use when they say "we didn't wear helmets and are fine" or "we never wore seat belts and are fine".

You and your husband are complete morons, and very obviously not "highly" educated, if at all.

Or, I didn't get pregnant the first time.

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Anonymous wrote:I was absolutely shocked to find out yesterday that my nephew isnt vaccinated at all. This is the first person that I know of in my family/friend circle.

What does this mean for my kids? Would you stop regular get-togethers?

I'm not speaking on the medical implications because I'm not a doctor and even though I have two advanced degrees, they're not in medicine.

However, I would question spending time with your sibling (husband's sibling?) due to their stupidity. We know a couple in our neighborhood (dad is a dentist...so not an actual doctor) who didn't vaccinate their kids and it's just impossible to be friends with them because we fundamentally disagree on a lot of things (they're also MAGA, shocking). So, to me, the anti-vax position is indicative of a larger issue that would likely make me not want to spend time with that person.

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Anonymous wrote:If you refuse to vaccinate you should have your tubes tied and darling husband should get a vasectomy.

if you get someone else's child sick you should go to jail.

People should be able to turn you in for bounty monies.

Oh wait red states already do that for abortions and misscarrages.

If you don't vaccinate you are pro birth not pro human morons.

Mom to girls 5 & 8 here ;I’ve never said anything about our political beliefs, we aren’t MAGA. We are more moderate.

You don’t vaccinate for polio? Do you know what polio does? Do you know that it’s far from eradicated?

My elementary school principle had polio as a child and used leg braces to walk the rest of her life. I was an elementary schooler in the late 1980s and it made a tremendous impression on all of us.

I was born in 1979 and a classmate of mine contracted polio as a toddler and also has leg braces/a wheelchair. This was in a UMC community as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

Highly educated professional whats?

Husband is a personal injury attorney, and I work in investing banking.

You’re not necessarily highly educated. Your husband was trained in a particular field and you learned about investing money. What makes you think your backgrounds allow you to make better decisions than your doctors?

Also, a personal injury attorney is...probably the lowest form of lawyer.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

Highly educated professional whats?

Husband is a personal injury attorney, and I work in investing banking.

You’re not necessarily highly educated. Your husband was trained in a particular field and you learned about investing money. What makes you think your backgrounds allow you to make better decisions than your doctors?

We don’t need medical background to make decisions on whether or not both we or are kids are vaccinated.

Yes, well and sadly you don't need any brain cells to procreate either.

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Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Which vaccines are you avoiding?

MMR, DTaP, Polio, & PCV are vaccines we do prioritize.
We avoid Hep A, Hep B, Varicella, Influenza, Covid, & Hib.

Will you get them HPV when they are older?

No.

That's a shame. A good friend of mine died in her early 30s of cervical cancer brought on by HPV (the vaccine didn't come out until I was in my mid 20s). If she'd had access to the vaccine she'd still be alive. Even if your kids choose to get it after they turn 18, the majority of girls are sexually active before turning 18, so it would likely be too late to help her.

Sorry for your loss.

Our kids won’t be dating until college, and even then only will be dating to marry, so I don’t think they’ll need the HPV vaccine but if when they’re 18, they choose to get vaccinated, we’ll support their decision.

Now you’re taking the piss. And of course the super parent of teens has never had any, if you’re anything other than a troll. Stop applying moral values to a medical procedure. You don’t know anything about how people will live their lives, so you’re going to expose your kids to the kind of miserable death that PP’s friend had.

How common is it for people to have severe injury or death due to these diseases that these vaccines prevent?

You don’t see or hear about it as much as this thread is making it out be.

Ok now I know you're a troll. Because everyone knows it is incredibly uncommon to suffer death or disability from measles, polio, rubella, etc since the general population is highly vaccinated. Without vaccines, those diseases used to be so common!

I doubt she’s a troll, she’s just ignorant. Most of the information on vaccines should,be common knowledge by now.

Smallpox and Cholera used to kill a large percentage of kids under five years old. Smallpox no longer exists because people living through that nightmare stood in long lines to get everyone vaccinated.


https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/the-public-health-interventions-for-polio-were-restrictive-and-so-were-the-iron-lungs

The article linked above has a picture taken in the 1950s in Nebraska where hundreds of parents waited in line to get the polio vaccination. And it was a trial study with half getting placebos before it came out for everyone the next year. Now almost 70 years later some parents will risk having their children become permanently paralyzed rather than vaccinate.

My Dad's a retired pediatrician and he's heard just about everything.

They have shown that excluding unvaccinated patients from practices is effective. When push comes to shove most parents will vaccinate when faced with being dismissed from pediatrician care. It is also necessary to keep waiting rooms safer for the babies too young to be vaccinated.

See but states are trying to ban this because a “parents rights” issue to be able to not vaccinate your kids. Apparently, parents rights does not include other parents that want to avoid the risk their kids are killed by some stupid antivaxxer.

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Anonymous wrote:I was absolutely shocked to find out yesterday that my nephew isnt vaccinated at all. This is the first person that I know of in my family/friend circle.

What does this mean for my kids? Would you stop regular get-togethers?

I'm not speaking on the medical implications because I'm not a doctor and even though I have two advanced degrees, they're not in medicine.

However, I would question spending time with your sibling (husband's sibling?) due to their stupidity. We know a couple in our neighborhood (dad is a dentist...so not an actual doctor) who didn't vaccinate their kids and it's just impossible to be friends with them because we fundamentally disagree on a lot of things (they're also MAGA, shocking). So, to me, the anti-vax position is indicative of a larger issue that would likely make me not want to spend time with that person.

yep this

my kids are not going around dummies who do not care another kid might die because of their "choices".