Just found out my nephew isnt vaccinated at all

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

Highly educated professional whats?

Husband is a personal injury attorney, and I work in investing banking.

You’re not necessarily highly educated. Your husband was trained in a particular field and you learned about investing money. What makes you think your backgrounds allow you to make better decisions than your doctors?

We don’t need medical background to make decisions on whether or not both we or are kids are vaccinated.

You don’t but don’t claim how highly educated you are when in fact your education is irrelevant. It’d be more useful to write about what journals and articles you’ve read and what information made you choose to take a risk. Nobody seems to do that.

We aren’t ignorant people who don’t believe in vaccines. We just prioritize vaccines that we think are important to us. I’m now thinking about whether or not to get them the HPV vaccine, and we already planned on them receiving the Meng Vaccine.

Why would you get them the HPV? They won’t need it, will they?

Why get them meningitis? Why is that one ok?

We just try to limit processed, unnatural, & inorganic things going into our children’s bodies, the best we can. That doesn’t mean we avoid every vaccine, (we do for ourselves, but not for our kids).

Great. Then why get meng or hpv?

Because we want to protect our kids.

Weird those are the ones you'd pick to get though- lots of concerns with the meninigitis vax in particular and you can avoid if you don't stuff them in an overcrowded college dorm.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

Highly educated professional whats?

Husband is a personal injury attorney, and I work in investing banking.

You’re not necessarily highly educated. Your husband was trained in a particular field and you learned about investing money. What makes you think your backgrounds allow you to make better decisions than your doctors?

We don’t need medical background to make decisions on whether or not both we or are kids are vaccinated.

You don’t but don’t claim how highly educated you are when in fact your education is irrelevant. It’d be more useful to write about what journals and articles you’ve read and what information made you choose to take a risk. Nobody seems to do that.

We aren’t ignorant people who don’t believe in vaccines. We just prioritize vaccines that we think are important to us. I’m now thinking about whether or not to get them the HPV vaccine, and we already planned on them receiving the Meng Vaccine.

Why would you get them the HPV? They won’t need it, will they?

Why get them meningitis? Why is that one ok?

We just try to limit processed, unnatural, & inorganic things going into our children’s bodies, the best we can. That doesn’t mean we avoid every vaccine, (we do for ourselves, but not for our kids).

Great. Then why get meng or hpv?

Because we want to protect our kids.

Weird those are the ones you'd pick to get though- lots of concerns with the meninigitis vax in particular and you can avoid if you don't stuff them in an overcrowded college dorm.

I personally knew a kid who died of meningitis in high school. Middle class family, living in a nice house in the suburbs. No overcrowding. The virus took only hours. Parents went to sleep with a kid who had an ordinary fever. The fever spiked during the night, and they didn’t know. By the time they woke up it was too late.

I am here to say that you cannot necessarily “avoid” meningitis as easily you suggest.

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Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Which vaccines are you avoiding?

MMR, DTaP, Polio, & PCV are vaccines we do prioritize.
We avoid Hep A, Hep B, Varicella, Influenza, Covid, & Hib.

Will you get them HPV when they are older?

No.

That's a shame. A good friend of mine died in her early 30s of cervical cancer brought on by HPV (the vaccine didn't come out until I was in my mid 20s). If she'd had access to the vaccine she'd still be alive. Even if your kids choose to get it after they turn 18, the majority of girls are sexually active before turning 18, so it would likely be too late to help her.

Sorry for your loss.

Our kids won’t be dating until college, and even then only will be dating to marry, so I don’t think they’ll need the HPV vaccine but if when they’re 18, they choose to get vaccinated, we’ll support their decision.

Now you’re taking the piss. And of course the super parent of teens has never had any, if you’re anything other than a troll. Stop applying moral values to a medical procedure. You don’t know anything about how people will live their lives, so you’re going to expose your kids to the kind of miserable death that PP’s friend had.

How common is it for people to have severe injury or death due to these diseases that these vaccines prevent?

You don’t see or hear about it as much as this thread is making it out be.

Ok now I know you're a troll. Because everyone knows it is incredibly uncommon to suffer death or disability from measles, polio, rubella, etc since the general population is highly vaccinated. Without vaccines, those diseases used to be so common!

I doubt she’s a troll, she’s just ignorant. Most of the information on vaccines should,be common knowledge by now.

Smallpox and Cholera used to kill a large percentage of kids under five years old. Smallpox no longer exists because people living through that nightmare stood in long lines to get everyone vaccinated.


https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/the-public-health-interventions-for-polio-were-restrictive-and-so-were-the-iron-lungs

The article linked above has a picture taken in the 1950s in Nebraska where hundreds of parents waited in line to get the polio vaccination. And it was a trial study with half getting placebos before it came out for everyone the next year. Now almost 70 years later some parents will risk having their children become permanently paralyzed rather than vaccinate.

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Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Which vaccines are you avoiding?

MMR, DTaP, Polio, & PCV are vaccines we do prioritize.
We avoid Hep A, Hep B, Varicella, Influenza, Covid, & Hib.

Will you get them HPV when they are older?

No.

That's a shame. A good friend of mine died in her early 30s of cervical cancer brought on by HPV (the vaccine didn't come out until I was in my mid 20s). If she'd had access to the vaccine she'd still be alive. Even if your kids choose to get it after they turn 18, the majority of girls are sexually active before turning 18, so it would likely be too late to help her.

Sorry for your loss.

Our kids won’t be dating until college, and even then only will be dating to marry, so I don’t think they’ll need the HPV vaccine but if when they’re 18, they choose to get vaccinated, we’ll support their decision.

Now you’re taking the piss. And of course the super parent of teens has never had any, if you’re anything other than a troll. Stop applying moral values to a medical procedure. You don’t know anything about how people will live their lives, so you’re going to expose your kids to the kind of miserable death that PP’s friend had.

How common is it for people to have severe injury or death due to these diseases that these vaccines prevent?

You don’t see or hear about it as much as this thread is making it out be.

Ok now I know you're a troll. Because everyone knows it is incredibly uncommon to suffer death or disability from measles, polio, rubella, etc since the general population is highly vaccinated. Without vaccines, those diseases used to be so common!

I doubt she’s a troll, she’s just ignorant. Most of the information on vaccines should,be common knowledge by now.

Smallpox and Cholera used to kill a large percentage of kids under five years old. Smallpox no longer exists because people living through that nightmare stood in long lines to get everyone vaccinated.


https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/the-public-health-interventions-for-polio-were-restrictive-and-so-were-the-iron-lungs

The article linked above has a picture taken in the 1950s in Nebraska where hundreds of parents waited in line to get the polio vaccination. And it was a trial study with half getting placebos before it came out for everyone the next year. Now almost 70 years later some parents will risk having their children become permanently paralyzed rather than vaccinate.

My Dad's a retired pediatrician and he's heard just about everything.

They have shown that excluding unvaccinated patients from practices is effective. When push comes to shove most parents will vaccinate when faced with being dismissed from pediatrician care. It is also necessary to keep waiting rooms safer for the babies too young to be vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

Highly educated professional whats?

Husband is a personal injury attorney, and I work in investing banking.

You’re not necessarily highly educated. Your husband was trained in a particular field and you learned about investing money. What makes you think your backgrounds allow you to make better decisions than your doctors?

We don’t need medical background to make decisions on whether or not both we or are kids are vaccinated.

You don’t but don’t claim how highly educated you are when in fact your education is irrelevant. It’d be more useful to write about what journals and articles you’ve read and what information made you choose to take a risk. Nobody seems to do that.

We aren’t ignorant people who don’t believe in vaccines. We just prioritize vaccines that we think are important to us. I’m now thinking about whether or not to get them the HPV vaccine, and we already planned on them receiving the Meng Vaccine.

Why would you get them the HPV? They won’t need it, will they?

Why get them meningitis? Why is that one ok?

We just try to limit processed, unnatural, & inorganic things going into our children’s bodies, the best we can. That doesn’t mean we avoid every vaccine, (we do for ourselves, but not for our kids).

Great. Then why get meng or hpv?

Because we want to protect our kids.

Then why not get all the vaccines recommended by the AAP?

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Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Which vaccines are you avoiding?

MMR, DTaP, Polio, & PCV are vaccines we do prioritize.
We avoid Hep A, Hep B, Varicella, Influenza, Covid, & Hib.

Will you get them HPV when they are older?

No.

That's a shame. A good friend of mine died in her early 30s of cervical cancer brought on by HPV (the vaccine didn't come out until I was in my mid 20s). If she'd had access to the vaccine she'd still be alive. Even if your kids choose to get it after they turn 18, the majority of girls are sexually active before turning 18, so it would likely be too late to help her.

Sorry for your loss.

Our kids won’t be dating until college, and even then only will be dating to marry, so I don’t think they’ll need the HPV vaccine but if when they’re 18, they choose to get vaccinated, we’ll support their decision.

Now you’re taking the piss. And of course the super parent of teens has never had any, if you’re anything other than a troll. Stop applying moral values to a medical procedure. You don’t know anything about how people will live their lives, so you’re going to expose your kids to the kind of miserable death that PP’s friend had.

How common is it for people to have severe injury or death due to these diseases that these vaccines prevent?

You don’t see or hear about it as much as this thread is making it out be.

Ok now I know you're a troll. Because everyone knows it is incredibly uncommon to suffer death or disability from measles, polio, rubella, etc since the general population is highly vaccinated. Without vaccines, those diseases used to be so common!

I doubt she’s a troll, she’s just ignorant. Most of the information on vaccines should,be common knowledge by now.

Smallpox and Cholera used to kill a large percentage of kids under five years old. Smallpox no longer exists because people living through that nightmare stood in long lines to get everyone vaccinated.


https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/the-public-health-interventions-for-polio-were-restrictive-and-so-were-the-iron-lungs

The article linked above has a picture taken in the 1950s in Nebraska where hundreds of parents waited in line to get the polio vaccination. And it was a trial study with half getting placebos before it came out for everyone the next year. Now almost 70 years later some parents will risk having their children become permanently paralyzed rather than vaccinate.

My Dad's a retired pediatrician and he's heard just about everything.

They have shown that excluding unvaccinated patients from practices is effective. When push comes to shove most parents will vaccinate when faced with being dismissed from pediatrician care. It is also necessary to keep waiting rooms safer for the babies too young to be vaccinated.

Our pediatrician retired so I called another office to find a new one. They won’t let you in the door until you send your vaccination verification over first.

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Thanks for your concern but we know what we’re doing. My husband grew up the same way we’re raising our kids and rarely ever got sick. They’ll be okay.

And when they aren't, you'll be racing to set up the Go Fund Me to collect cash to pay the medical bills. You're awful.

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Thanks for your concern but we know what we’re doing. My husband grew up the same way we’re raising our kids and rarely ever got sick. They’ll be okay.

And when they aren't, you'll be racing to set up the Go Fund Me to collect cash to pay the medical bills. You're awful.

Preach! 🤚

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

I would make the decision never to have your children anywhere near mine, and I’d tell all the other parents why as well.

I’m okay with that.
Like I said before, we believe in parental freedom (including yours) and do all natural parenting.

And we are free to shun you and shout to the world why.

What disease is everyone worried about?

We do vaccinate against measles.

I'm a pediatrician, and if you want to know what keeps me awake at night, it's pertussis.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

I would make the decision never to have your children anywhere near mine, and I’d tell all the other parents why as well.

I’m okay with that.
Like I said before, we believe in parental freedom (including yours) and do all natural parenting.

And we are free to shun you and shout to the world why.

What disease is everyone worried about?

We do vaccinate against measles.

I'm a pediatrician, and if you want to know what keeps me awake at night, it's pertussis.

^^Well, pertussis for filling up EDs and pediatric wards with no room left for your child. But what brings me to waking up in a cold sweat? A diphtheria outbreak.

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Anonymous wrote:The nephew is the one at risk.

Your kids are vaccinated so they are safe.

SafER maybe, but not completely safe. My fully vaccinated niece, and several other kids, caught pertussis after spending a week away at camp with an unvaxxed teammate who turned out to be sick.

Then what good were the 4 dtap shots they had by 5?

What good is having brakes on your car, if they can fail? Because if you have brakes and keep the brakes updated, your risk goes down by a lot.

Do you also encourage your children to close their eyes when crossing the road, just because some people who were looking have gotten hit at some point in time, anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Which vaccines are you avoiding?

MMR, DTaP, Polio, & PCV are vaccines we do prioritize.
We avoid Hep A, Hep B, Varicella, Influenza, Covid, & Hib.

Will you get them HPV when they are older?

No.

That's a shame. A good friend of mine died in her early 30s of cervical cancer brought on by HPV (the vaccine didn't come out until I was in my mid 20s). If she'd had access to the vaccine she'd still be alive. Even if your kids choose to get it after they turn 18, the majority of girls are sexually active before turning 18, so it would likely be too late to help her.

Sorry for your loss.

Our kids won’t be dating until college, and even then only will be dating to marry, so I don’t think they’ll need the HPV vaccine but if when they’re 18, they choose to get vaccinated, we’ll support their decision.

If I had a nickel for every mother at clinic who -- very assuredly, and with complete certainty -- told me the same thing, and who came back with a pregnant teenager, I'd have 15 cents. Which isn't a lot, but it was memorable.

I worry about the young women or young men who are sexually assaulted and, because of the hubris of their parents, end up with an incompetent cervix (for the former) after multiple LEEPs or with head and neck cancers.

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Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Which vaccines are you avoiding?

MMR, DTaP, Polio, & PCV are vaccines we do prioritize.
We avoid Hep A, Hep B, Varicella, Influenza, Covid, & Hib.

Will you get them HPV when they are older?

No.

That's a shame. A good friend of mine died in her early 30s of cervical cancer brought on by HPV (the vaccine didn't come out until I was in my mid 20s). If she'd had access to the vaccine she'd still be alive. Even if your kids choose to get it after they turn 18, the majority of girls are sexually active before turning 18, so it would likely be too late to help her.

Sorry for your loss.

Our kids won’t be dating until college, and even then only will be dating to marry, so I don’t think they’ll need the HPV vaccine but if when they’re 18, they choose to get vaccinated, we’ll support their decision.

Are you assuming they will have only one partner and that partner will have only one as well?

And that nothing happened with the partner as a child that they may not remember. Viral latency is a thing, too.

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Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Which vaccines are you avoiding?

MMR, DTaP, Polio, & PCV are vaccines we do prioritize.
We avoid Hep A, Hep B, Varicella, Influenza, Covid, & Hib.

Will you get them HPV when they are older?

No.

That's a shame. A good friend of mine died in her early 30s of cervical cancer brought on by HPV (the vaccine didn't come out until I was in my mid 20s). If she'd had access to the vaccine she'd still be alive. Even if your kids choose to get it after they turn 18, the majority of girls are sexually active before turning 18, so it would likely be too late to help her.

Sorry for your loss.

Our kids won’t be dating until college, and even then only will be dating to marry, so I don’t think they’ll need the HPV vaccine but if when they’re 18, they choose to get vaccinated, we’ll support their decision.

Are you assuming they will have only one partner and that partner will have only one as well?

Yes.. That’s how we’re raising them.

What if your children are brutally gang-raped? Then multiple people will have penetrated their bodies with their potential diseases, and you’ll have done nothing to protect them from these diseases. Shame on you. Bad parenting.

We’re hoping nothing that awful ever happens to our girls.
I don’t like the pessimistic mindset many people here have. That isn’t the way we think.

Yes, that is how you prevent sexual assault and rape. The power of positive thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:I was absolutely shocked to find out yesterday that my nephew isnt vaccinated at all. This is the first person that I know of in my family/friend circle.

What does this mean for my kids? Would you stop regular get-togethers?

This mostly depends on your kids’ ages and vaccination status. If your children are fully vaccinated and healthy, the risk is usually low, but newborns or kids with medical issues need more caution. Many families handle this by avoiding visits during illness, keeping good hygiene, and having an honest conversation rather than cutting contact completely.