What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You're completely wrong, and you're the demoralization guy again. Telling Dems that the decade of anguish they've endured under Trump doesn't mean anything or contain any clues they can learn from. "Trump was such a weak candidate in 2020 and 2024."

The numbers don't lie, indeed, and Trump's voter increase between 2016 and 2020 was massive by historical standards. He picked up more than 14 million ADDITIONAL votes vs. his 2016 victory, the biggest incumbent President vote increase in 50 years.

And indeed Joe Biden was a terrible candidate--a shell of his former self who had failed to garner even significant primary support in his multiple previous Presidential bids while younger, sharper, and healthier.

But he needed to beat Barack Obama's vote getting record by more than 12 million votes to eke out a victory over the strong candidate Trump. He needed a pandemic, a change in mail-in voting rules, 25 million extra voters, and an extra week of counting to win by 70,000 votes across the three deciding swing states. Joe Biden's electoral performance in 2020 was astonishing, the strongest by any Presidential candidate ever. And it was NEEDED, because Trump's electoral performance in 2020 was also astonishing, the strongest by any Presidential candidate ever except for Joe Biden 2020. Trump had been demonized as a Russian spy for years by Democrats and had already been impeached, and still he set these records.

Maybe you just hate Trump and have to keep insisting to yourself that he was a weak candidate?

But I suspect you hate the Democrats more and you want them to keep sleepwalking, keep ignoring voter preferences, and keep hoping they can win solely by campaigning against Trump even though Trump won't be running.

Anyway, I think it's wonderful that you're always here on every thread about how Democrats can win, and with which candidate, to insist again and again and again that Democrats should do nothing, don't have to worry about it, don't need to think about strong candidates, and can just trust that Democrats will easily win with whatever candidate emerges from the DNC-donor-controlled primaries that you say will "hopefully" be fair this time. LOL.

This poster has your back, Dems. He says you don't need a candidate, you shouldn't change any policies, and you'll easily beat any Republican who runs. He'll say it hundreds of more times! He's got a very high tolerance for typing the same things over and over again!


Trump LOST to Joe frickin Biden. Enough said. Dems can run another Joe Biden in 2028 and they'll still win because Trump will be the sitting POTUS with a 38% job approval rating. Stop overthinking it. Unpopular presidents lead to guaranteed losses and that's all we've seen since 2017. Policy means nothing when the sitting POTUS is an unfit 80 year old. Been here, done this.


Democrats, we can stop strategizing now. Our friendly demoralization specialist prolific poster keeps telling us that Republicans can't win because Trump's approval rating is low. This is the pattern he says he has seen since 2017. So we're all set. We don't need a candidate and we don't need policies that appeal to voters. We just need to sit back, relax, and enjoy this pattern that will guarantee us an easy victory.


First of all, I'm not sure what this so called strategizing you're seeking to do with a bunch of hyper-partisan dimwits and RNC and DNC scum trolls on an anonymous political forum. Second of all, Dems do not need to reinvent the wheel to get back on track. They can simply nominate a normal Obama/Clinton type and the world will breath a sigh of relief. Nominate another Biden and we're screwed again.
Anonymous
Ro Khanna – Economic justice + tech accountability; Sanders-style critique with policy fluency.
Cory Booker – Obama-style moral optimism with Clinton-era coalition instincts.
Josh Shapiro – Classic Clintonian pragmatism: swing-state appeal, bipartisan tone, electoral discipline.
Gavin Newsom – Clinton-like charisma and political agility; strong media fluency.
Rahm Emanuel – Hard-edged Clintonian operator: transactional, strategic, results-focused.
Wes Moore – Obama-adjacent narrative leadership: aspirational, disciplined, unity-focused.
Michael Bennet – Technocratic, low-drama, Obama-era governing ethos.
Terry McAuliffe – Pure Clinton DNA: coalition politics, donor fluency, electoral pragmatism.
Pete Buttigieg – The strongest Obama analogue: cerebral, calm, rhetorically precise, norms-oriented.

VP Picks
Elizabeth Warren – Policy-heavy progressive populism; structural critique of capitalism with academic rigor.
Sherrod Brown – Labor-first, anti-corporate economic populism with Midwest credibility.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Generational Sanders figure: moral clarity, populist framing, movement energy.
Amy Klobuchar – Clinton-style competence, incrementalism, and Midwestern credibility.

Alright savvy people of DCUM, how did ChatGPT do on this one? I'm not sure it got it wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ro Khanna – Economic justice + tech accountability; Sanders-style critique with policy fluency.
Cory Booker – Obama-style moral optimism with Clinton-era coalition instincts.
Josh Shapiro – Classic Clintonian pragmatism: swing-state appeal, bipartisan tone, electoral discipline.
Gavin Newsom – Clinton-like charisma and political agility; strong media fluency.
Rahm Emanuel – Hard-edged Clintonian operator: transactional, strategic, results-focused.
Wes Moore – Obama-adjacent narrative leadership: aspirational, disciplined, unity-focused.
Michael Bennet – Technocratic, low-drama, Obama-era governing ethos.
Terry McAuliffe – Pure Clinton DNA: coalition politics, donor fluency, electoral pragmatism.
Pete Buttigieg – The strongest Obama analogue: cerebral, calm, rhetorically precise, norms-oriented.

VP Picks
Elizabeth Warren – Policy-heavy progressive populism; structural critique of capitalism with academic rigor.
Sherrod Brown – Labor-first, anti-corporate economic populism with Midwest credibility.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Generational Sanders figure: moral clarity, populist framing, movement energy.
Amy Klobuchar – Clinton-style competence, incrementalism, and Midwestern credibility.

Alright savvy people of DCUM, how did ChatGPT do on this one? I'm not sure it got it wrong.


We could have a very fair and wide-open primary and watch the cream rise to the top. Remember when we did that in 2008? That gets my vote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Since we can't seem to come up with a candidate, maybe we can at least contemplate the right TYPE of candidate?

Here are a few:

First Female President (Multiple Interesting Possibilities)

First Gay President (Mayor Pete)

Boring White Guy, Little Known Midwestern State Governor, Attempt to Appeal to Centrist and Men who stopped voting for Democrats (Beshear, Shapiro, etc.)

Hard-charging realist a la Rahm Emanuel, here to crack some heads and get Dems back on track

Young Up-and-Coming Unknown (Wesley Moore)

Nepo Baby (Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, Ella Emhoff, etc.) Name recognition matters. A lot.

Squad Leader (AOC)

Evil Emperor (Gavin Newsom)

Which TYPE(S) would be most viable?


One that doesn't rely on innate characteristics to get elected.

Of the ones you mentioned, I like Butigieg and Shapiro but if Butigieg implies that we should vote for him because he is gay or if Shapiro implies that we should vote for him because he is jewish, then they should lose, even if they are running against JD Vance and Stephen Miller, I'm sick of this identitarian bullshit.
Anonymous
Wow! I hate to admit it, but, the ChatGPT post is the best one in the entire thread. Those are very sophisticated, tight summaries of each potential candidate mentioned. And I agree with the poster who did it--these summaries are pretty accurate! And insightful.

Out of curiousity, I would love to see the ChatGPT summaries when the same questions are fed in about the potential Republican candidates. PP, if you are willing to do that and post that, we would be in your debt!
Anonymous
I'm kind of an GenAI skeptic, but this rundown from ChatGPT kind of blows my mind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wow! I hate to admit it, but, the ChatGPT post is the best one in the entire thread. Those are very sophisticated, tight summaries of each potential candidate mentioned. And I agree with the poster who did it--these summaries are pretty accurate! And insightful.

Out of curiousity, I would love to see the ChatGPT summaries when the same questions are fed in about the potential Republican candidates. PP, if you are willing to do that and post that, we would be in your debt!


Yes Chat GPT would put cliff notes out of business unless Cliff notes were also allowed to plagiarize others.
Anonymous
chat gpt pp poster here. Just ran the following prompt for the GOP, but since the party is so compromised by Trump, I asked it who would govern like Reagan....thoughts?

"Below are ten living Republicans who could plausibly govern like Ronald Reagan today—not in nostalgia or slogans, but in actual executive behavior: optimism, delegation, institutional respect, coalition-building, pro-alliance foreign policy, and governing without grievance.
These are people who have demonstrated Reagan-style governance traits, not just talked about them.

Most plausible Reagan-style governors in practice

Larry Hogan
Best modern analogue. Executed Reagan’s core governing method: reassure the public, avoid demonization, govern pragmatically, keep rhetoric optimistic while focusing on outcomes.

Charlie Baker
Reagan’s managerial model updated: high trust, low drama, coalition governance, strong delegation, public reassurance during crises.

Phil Scott
Reagan without theatrics: calm authority, refusal of culture-war politics, steady executive tone that lowers social temperature.

John Kasich
Reagan-like moral optimism and pluralistic language; governed from conviction without cruelty or grievance.
Reagan-style seriousness + institutional loyalty

Mitt Romney
Lacks Reagan’s folksiness, but shares his restraint, internationalism, and willingness to absorb political cost to protect institutions.

Jon Huntsman Jr.
Reagan-Bush diplomatic realism: pro-alliance, globally fluent, calm executive temperament.

Mitch Daniels
Reagan’s discipline without showmanship: focused on fiscal stewardship, governance over performance.
Reagan’s norms-first governing instinct

Condoleezza Rice
Reagan worldview embodied: institutional respect, American leadership without belligerence, competence-first governance.

Lisa Murkowski
Reagan-style independence: willing to defy party to protect democratic norms; governance over populism.

Susan Collins
Old-school Republican institutionalism: cautious, stabilizing, norm-protective—traits Reagan relied on internally.

Why these people could govern like Reagan
They share Reagan’s governing method, not just ideology:
Lower emotional temperature
Delegation to experts
Optimism without denial of complexity
Institutional loyalty
Coalition-first thinking
Comfort losing elections rather than breaking norms

DCUM posters, how did it do?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: chat gpt pp poster here. Just ran the following prompt for the GOP, but since the party is so compromised by Trump, I asked it who would govern like Reagan....thoughts?

"Below are ten living Republicans who could plausibly govern like Ronald Reagan today—not in nostalgia or slogans, but in actual executive behavior: optimism, delegation, institutional respect, coalition-building, pro-alliance foreign policy, and governing without grievance.
These are people who have demonstrated Reagan-style governance traits, not just talked about them.

Most plausible Reagan-style governors in practice

Larry Hogan
Best modern analogue. Executed Reagan’s core governing method: reassure the public, avoid demonization, govern pragmatically, keep rhetoric optimistic while focusing on outcomes.

Charlie Baker
Reagan’s managerial model updated: high trust, low drama, coalition governance, strong delegation, public reassurance during crises.

Phil Scott
Reagan without theatrics: calm authority, refusal of culture-war politics, steady executive tone that lowers social temperature.

John Kasich
Reagan-like moral optimism and pluralistic language; governed from conviction without cruelty or grievance.
Reagan-style seriousness + institutional loyalty

Mitt Romney
Lacks Reagan’s folksiness, but shares his restraint, internationalism, and willingness to absorb political cost to protect institutions.

Jon Huntsman Jr.
Reagan-Bush diplomatic realism: pro-alliance, globally fluent, calm executive temperament.

Mitch Daniels
Reagan’s discipline without showmanship: focused on fiscal stewardship, governance over performance.
Reagan’s norms-first governing instinct

Condoleezza Rice
Reagan worldview embodied: institutional respect, American leadership without belligerence, competence-first governance.

Lisa Murkowski
Reagan-style independence: willing to defy party to protect democratic norms; governance over populism.

Susan Collins
Old-school Republican institutionalism: cautious, stabilizing, norm-protective—traits Reagan relied on internally.

Why these people could govern like Reagan
They share Reagan’s governing method, not just ideology:
Lower emotional temperature
Delegation to experts
Optimism without denial of complexity
Institutional loyalty
Coalition-first thinking
Comfort losing elections rather than breaking norms

DCUM posters, how did it do?


Any human with a live pulse not named Trump or Biden will be a major upgrade from the stinky rubbish that has occupied The White House since 2017.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ro Khanna – Economic justice + tech accountability; Sanders-style critique with policy fluency.
Cory Booker – Obama-style moral optimism with Clinton-era coalition instincts.
Josh Shapiro – Classic Clintonian pragmatism: swing-state appeal, bipartisan tone, electoral discipline.
Gavin Newsom – Clinton-like charisma and political agility; strong media fluency.
Rahm Emanuel – Hard-edged Clintonian operator: transactional, strategic, results-focused.
Wes Moore – Obama-adjacent narrative leadership: aspirational, disciplined, unity-focused.
Michael Bennet – Technocratic, low-drama, Obama-era governing ethos.
Terry McAuliffe – Pure Clinton DNA: coalition politics, donor fluency, electoral pragmatism.
Pete Buttigieg – The strongest Obama analogue: cerebral, calm, rhetorically precise, norms-oriented.

VP Picks
Elizabeth Warren – Policy-heavy progressive populism; structural critique of capitalism with academic rigor.
Sherrod Brown – Labor-first, anti-corporate economic populism with Midwest credibility.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Generational Sanders figure: moral clarity, populist framing, movement energy.
Amy Klobuchar – Clinton-style competence, incrementalism, and Midwestern credibility.

Alright savvy people of DCUM, how did ChatGPT do on this one? I'm not sure it got it wrong.


We could have a very fair and wide-open primary and watch the cream rise to the top. Remember when we did that in 2008? That gets my vote.


I’m actually getting a little bit excited seeing that list.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ro Khanna – Economic justice + tech accountability; Sanders-style critique with policy fluency.
Cory Booker – Obama-style moral optimism with Clinton-era coalition instincts.
Josh Shapiro – Classic Clintonian pragmatism: swing-state appeal, bipartisan tone, electoral discipline.
Gavin Newsom – Clinton-like charisma and political agility; strong media fluency.
Rahm Emanuel – Hard-edged Clintonian operator: transactional, strategic, results-focused.
Wes Moore – Obama-adjacent narrative leadership: aspirational, disciplined, unity-focused.
Michael Bennet – Technocratic, low-drama, Obama-era governing ethos.
Terry McAuliffe – Pure Clinton DNA: coalition politics, donor fluency, electoral pragmatism.
Pete Buttigieg – The strongest Obama analogue: cerebral, calm, rhetorically precise, norms-oriented.

VP Picks
Elizabeth Warren – Policy-heavy progressive populism; structural critique of capitalism with academic rigor.
Sherrod Brown – Labor-first, anti-corporate economic populism with Midwest credibility.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Generational Sanders figure: moral clarity, populist framing, movement energy.
Amy Klobuchar – Clinton-style competence, incrementalism, and Midwestern credibility.

Alright savvy people of DCUM, how did ChatGPT do on this one? I'm not sure it got it wrong.


We could have a very fair and wide-open primary and watch the cream rise to the top. Remember when we did that in 2008? That gets my vote.


I’m actually getting a little bit excited seeing that list.


Me too. The stars of the 2028 primary will announce themselves to the public in 2027. It will be very refreshing to see POTUS worthy people seeking the Dem nomination on a level playing field again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ro Khanna – Economic justice + tech accountability; Sanders-style critique with policy fluency.
Cory Booker – Obama-style moral optimism with Clinton-era coalition instincts.
Josh Shapiro – Classic Clintonian pragmatism: swing-state appeal, bipartisan tone, electoral discipline.
Gavin Newsom – Clinton-like charisma and political agility; strong media fluency.
Rahm Emanuel – Hard-edged Clintonian operator: transactional, strategic, results-focused.
Wes Moore – Obama-adjacent narrative leadership: aspirational, disciplined, unity-focused.
Michael Bennet – Technocratic, low-drama, Obama-era governing ethos.
Terry McAuliffe – Pure Clinton DNA: coalition politics, donor fluency, electoral pragmatism.
Pete Buttigieg – The strongest Obama analogue: cerebral, calm, rhetorically precise, norms-oriented.

VP Picks
Elizabeth Warren – Policy-heavy progressive populism; structural critique of capitalism with academic rigor.
Sherrod Brown – Labor-first, anti-corporate economic populism with Midwest credibility.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Generational Sanders figure: moral clarity, populist framing, movement energy.
Amy Klobuchar – Clinton-style competence, incrementalism, and Midwestern credibility.

Alright savvy people of DCUM, how did ChatGPT do on this one? I'm not sure it got it wrong.


We could have a very fair and wide-open primary and watch the cream rise to the top. Remember when we did that in 2008? That gets my vote.

Despite what the pundits on this forum claim, we also had open primaries in 2016 and 2020 as well. You’re just pissed that most voters preferred Hillary and Joe.
Anonymous
Plot twist: it’s Barron Trump!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ro Khanna – Economic justice + tech accountability; Sanders-style critique with policy fluency.
Cory Booker – Obama-style moral optimism with Clinton-era coalition instincts.
Josh Shapiro – Classic Clintonian pragmatism: swing-state appeal, bipartisan tone, electoral discipline.
Gavin Newsom – Clinton-like charisma and political agility; strong media fluency.
Rahm Emanuel – Hard-edged Clintonian operator: transactional, strategic, results-focused.
Wes Moore – Obama-adjacent narrative leadership: aspirational, disciplined, unity-focused.
Michael Bennet – Technocratic, low-drama, Obama-era governing ethos.
Terry McAuliffe – Pure Clinton DNA: coalition politics, donor fluency, electoral pragmatism.
Pete Buttigieg – The strongest Obama analogue: cerebral, calm, rhetorically precise, norms-oriented.

VP Picks
Elizabeth Warren – Policy-heavy progressive populism; structural critique of capitalism with academic rigor.
Sherrod Brown – Labor-first, anti-corporate economic populism with Midwest credibility.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Generational Sanders figure: moral clarity, populist framing, movement energy.
Amy Klobuchar – Clinton-style competence, incrementalism, and Midwestern credibility.

Alright savvy people of DCUM, how did ChatGPT do on this one? I'm not sure it got it wrong.


We could have a very fair and wide-open primary and watch the cream rise to the top. Remember when we did that in 2008? That gets my vote.

Despite what the pundits on this forum claim, we also had open primaries in 2016 and 2020 as well. You’re just pissed that most voters preferred Hillary and Joe.


Tell us you know nothing about modern tell politics in America without telling us. It's fruitcakes like you that are to blame for two Trump terms. Find a brain.
Anonymous
Chat GPT poster here again. I mean, I am energized by the names too .. but it is a sorry state of affairs when AI is able to generate these answers.

Additionally, we might be better off if Cheeto would just govern through chat gpt for the next three years As things stand, he cannot even be bothered to whip out his phone and type a prompt like this into chat gpt ..

"Write me a 20 minute speech about how I alone will fix the economy at warp speed in 2026. Make me sound more brilliant than FDR and Obama combined but as crass and offensive as Donald J. Trump at his worst."

Work smarter not harder, sheesh.
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