What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone whose first act will be to rip off all the tacky WH gold barnacles and juvenile Walk of Fame plaques, crowbar Trump’s name off the Kennedy Center, and invite the public to a ritual bonfire.

Someone who will undo all the “executive orders” of the previous four years.

Someone who values competence over loyalty and doesn’t run the government like a Mafia organization.

Someone who isn’t afraid to arrest, try, and sentence everyone who aided and abetted the war crimes and human rights violations of the previous administration.

I don’t care what color, orientation, or gender they are, so long as they have a backbone.

This reminds me of someone. 🤨

You don’t defeat fascism by playing nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think mark kelly could be an option-he’s the anti-trump-and could gain hero status if Hegseth has him court martialed for telling soldiers they have an obligation not to follow unlawful orders.

Provided he’s not convicted. 😐

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think mark kelly could be an option-he’s the anti-trump-and could gain hero status if Hegseth has him court martialed for telling soldiers they have an obligation not to follow unlawful orders.

Provided he’s not convicted. 😐

LOL, this is how authoritarians get rid of their enemies. If one thinks Mark Kelly, a veteran and astronaut is the enemy, that is a MAGA problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since we can't seem to come up with a candidate, maybe we can at least contemplate the right TYPE of candidate?

Here are a few:

First Female President (Multiple Interesting Possibilities)

First Gay President (Mayor Pete)

Boring White Guy, Little Known Midwestern State Governor, Attempt to Appeal to Centrist and Men who stopped voting for Democrats (Beshear, Shapiro, etc.)

Hard-charging realist a la Rahm Emanuel, here to crack some heads and get Dems back on track

Young Up-and-Coming Unknown (Wesley Moore)

Nepo Baby (Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, Ella Emhoff, etc.) Name recognition matters. A lot.

Squad Leader (AOC)

Evil Emperor (Gavin Newsom)

Which TYPE(S) would be most viable?

Hunter Biden? lol
Gavin Newsom is not an evil emperor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since we can't seem to come up with a candidate, maybe we can at least contemplate the right TYPE of candidate?

Here are a few:

First Female President (Multiple Interesting Possibilities)

First Gay President (Mayor Pete)

Boring White Guy, Little Known Midwestern State Governor, Attempt to Appeal to Centrist and Men who stopped voting for Democrats (Beshear, Shapiro, etc.)

Hard-charging realist a la Rahm Emanuel, here to crack some heads and get Dems back on track

Young Up-and-Coming Unknown (Wesley Moore)

Nepo Baby (Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, Ella Emhoff, etc.) Name recognition matters. A lot.

Squad Leader (AOC)

Evil Emperor (Gavin Newsom)

Which TYPE(S) would be most viable?

Hunter Biden? lol
Gavin Newsom is not an evil emperor

Only “boring white guy” is viable. Kelly, Beshear, or Shapiro - take your pick.

[Anonymous]

Successful governor of a purple state. It’s really that simple.

[Anonymous]

Bernie Sanders or Tim Waltz types.

Don't nominate anyone female, LGBT or a person of color, because they will unfortunately lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone whose first act will be to rip off all the tacky WH gold barnacles and juvenile Walk of Fame plaques, crowbar Trump’s name off the Kennedy Center, and invite the public to a ritual bonfire.

Someone who will undo all the “executive orders” of the previous four years.

Someone who values competence over loyalty and doesn’t run the government like a Mafia organization.

Someone who isn’t afraid to arrest, try, and sentence everyone who aided and abetted the war crimes and human rights violations of the previous administration.

I don’t care what color, orientation, or gender they are, so long as they have a backbone.

This reminds me of someone. 🤨

You don’t defeat fascism by playing nice.

While I will vote for whomever gets the nomination, we really need to nominate someone that’s going to correct the errors of this administration and put some people in jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Successful governor of a purple state. It’s really that simple.

Who would that be ? Back to the pasty Wisconsin guy, no thanks. I would rather come out swinging with AOC or Ralm, or both ! They could get Clinton back on the campaign trail to help out, (Bill not Hillary).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since we can't seem to come up with a candidate, maybe we can at least contemplate the right TYPE of candidate?

Here are a few:

First Female President (Multiple Interesting Possibilities)

First Gay President (Mayor Pete)

Boring White Guy, Little Known Midwestern State Governor, Attempt to Appeal to Centrist and Men who stopped voting for Democrats (Beshear, Shapiro, etc.)

Hard-charging realist a la Rahm Emanuel, here to crack some heads and get Dems back on track

Young Up-and-Coming Unknown (Wesley Moore)

Nepo Baby (Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, Ella Emhoff, etc.) Name recognition matters. A lot.

Squad Leader (AOC)

Evil Emperor (Gavin Newsom)

Which TYPE(S) would be most viable?

Any “type” will lose. Democrats need to stop trying to game the system with identity politics. Pick someone whose identity is just an American person who listens to voters. If they happen to fall into an archetypal subcategory, great, but that should be a side effect and not the reason they’re selected.

Democrats need to run on issues and those issues had better take into consideration the needs of the average voter. Instead of sneering at the type of people who shop at Walmart, prioritize their needs. Instead of loan forgiveness for graduates who have jobs obtained with their college degree, help those who gelt they couldn’t afford college. Go after private equity. Go after monopolies. Push for consumer protection. I’m all for universal, single payer healthcare, but you still need to cut costs rather than to just shovel more money to Big Pharma/Healthcare companies. Tax the rich is great, but in addition to raising the rate, you also need to close the loopholes for the wealthy who just avoid taxes altogether.

Let’s be honest, the debt is so high that neither the Democrats’ tax raises nor the Republicans’ spending cuts will solve the problem. Acknowledge that cuts will have to be made and suggest some. At least offer Republican initiatives to sacrifice and consider giving up a little Democrat pork. Try to tackle the causes of problems rather than just throwing money at them so that you can claim credit.

America is below ground zero, and will need to dig itself out to get to the surface. The time for playing politics is over. We need someone to come forward with constructive solutions to govern FOR THE PEOPLE. Mamdani won not because of his type, but because people felt that he might try to help them and wanted to give him a chance to do so. That’s why people like Bernie, and even Trump. Trump doesn’t care about the people’s problems, and even if he did, his “solutions” wouldn’t be capable of fixing them, but at least he acknowledges their problems.

The Democrats are more likely to dismiss the problems, or even claim the voters are the problem. Allow people to disagree with you on some issues without turning them into the enemy. If someone disagrees with you about immigration, abortion, global warming, trans issues, etc., instead of accusing them of being evil, just allow them to be wrong on that issue, but point out the other issues where you may have common ground. If they vote for you, you can do whatever you want once you’re in power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bernie Sanders or Tim Waltz types.

Don't nominate anyone female, LGBT or a person of color, because they will unfortunately lose.

And not Bernie or Walz either. Beshear or Newsom. We need to win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest, straight white male from a southern state. Jimmy Carter/Bill Clinton but not dead.

At the moment, the illinois governor is probably the best option.

not gay
not jewish
not a woman
not of color
not a coastal elite, just midwestern elite but track record of executive leadership and governance.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since we can't seem to come up with a candidate, maybe we can at least contemplate the right TYPE of candidate?

Here are a few:

First Female President (Multiple Interesting Possibilities)

First Gay President (Mayor Pete)

Boring White Guy, Little Known Midwestern State Governor, Attempt to Appeal to Centrist and Men who stopped voting for Democrats (Beshear, Shapiro, etc.)

Hard-charging realist a la Rahm Emanuel, here to crack some heads and get Dems back on track

Young Up-and-Coming Unknown (Wesley Moore)

Nepo Baby (Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, Ella Emhoff, etc.) Name recognition matters. A lot.

Squad Leader (AOC)

Evil Emperor (Gavin Newsom)

Which TYPE(S) would be most viable?

Any “type” will lose. Democrats need to stop trying to game the system with identity politics. Pick someone whose identity is just an American person who listens to voters. If they happen to fall into an archetypal subcategory, great, but that should be a side effect and not the reason they’re selected.

Democrats need to run on issues and those issues had better take into consideration the needs of the average voter. Instead of sneering at the type of people who shop at Walmart, prioritize their needs. Instead of loan forgiveness for graduates who have jobs obtained with their college degree, help those who gelt they couldn’t afford college. Go after private equity. Go after monopolies. Push for consumer protection. I’m all for universal, single payer healthcare, but you still need to cut costs rather than to just shovel more money to Big Pharma/Healthcare companies. Tax the rich is great, but in addition to raising the rate, you also need to close the loopholes for the wealthy who just avoid taxes altogether.

Let’s be honest, the debt is so high that neither the Democrats’ tax raises nor the Republicans’ spending cuts will solve the problem. Acknowledge that cuts will have to be made and suggest some. At least offer Republican initiatives to sacrifice and consider giving up a little Democrat pork. Try to tackle the causes of problems rather than just throwing money at them so that you can claim credit.

America is below ground zero, and will need to dig itself out to get to the surface. The time for playing politics is over. We need someone to come forward with constructive solutions to govern FOR THE PEOPLE. Mamdani won not because of his type, but because people felt that he might try to help them and wanted to give him a chance to do so. That’s why people like Bernie, and even Trump. Trump doesn’t care about the people’s problems, and even if he did, his “solutions” wouldn’t be capable of fixing them, but at least he acknowledges their problems.

The Democrats are more likely to dismiss the problems, or even claim the voters are the problem. Allow people to disagree with you on some issues without turning them into the enemy. If someone disagrees with you about immigration, abortion, global warming, trans issues, etc., instead of accusing them of being evil, just allow them to be wrong on that issue, but point out the other issues where you may have common ground. If they vote for you, you can do whatever you want once you’re in power.

Hate to break it to you but identity politics has worked great for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since we can't seem to come up with a candidate, maybe we can at least contemplate the right TYPE of candidate?

Here are a few:

First Female President (Multiple Interesting Possibilities)

First Gay President (Mayor Pete)

Boring White Guy, Little Known Midwestern State Governor, Attempt to Appeal to Centrist and Men who stopped voting for Democrats (Beshear, Shapiro, etc.)

Hard-charging realist a la Rahm Emanuel, here to crack some heads and get Dems back on track

Young Up-and-Coming Unknown (Wesley Moore)

Nepo Baby (Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, Ella Emhoff, etc.) Name recognition matters. A lot.

Squad Leader (AOC)

Evil Emperor (Gavin Newsom)

Which TYPE(S) would be most viable?

Hunter Biden? lol
Gavin Newsom is not an evil emperor

Only “boring white guy” is viable. Kelly, Beshear, or Shapiro - take your pick.

I don't think that's totally true. This moment is ripe for an Obama-type candidate. A charismatic figure that makes you feel good about this country again. Doesn't have to be a white man. And boring isn't going to work at all. Alas, there is no Obama type figure among Democrats today. They are all blah, which will be a problem. Charisma matters more than some race or gender box. And Kelly, Beshear, and Shapiro do not have national stage charisma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Successful governor of a purple state. It’s really that simple.

Who would that be ? Back to the pasty Wisconsin guy, no thanks. I would rather come out swinging with AOC or Ralm, or both ! They could get Clinton back on the campaign trail to help out, (Bill not Hillary).

Shapiro or Whitmer are both successful governors of purple states. Shapiro’s approval rating is crazy high - like 65%.