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1530 SAT at McLean High not enough for UVA now?
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Anonymous
1. Obviously false https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/characteristics-qualities-competitive-applicants |
Anonymous
You must be new. It literally says UVA doesn’t have GPA thresholds. Dean J says on her blog that they don’t care about transcript GPA. They care about grades and rigor, NOT GPA. |
Anonymous
If you have ever looked at Naviance or Scoir data, you will see they care about GPA a lot. Threshold varies by school but it is probably the #1 factor. GPA is reflective of rigor. You can’t get a 4.4 in FCPS without near max rigor and all As. |
Anonymous
Oh so you know more about this than UVA does? They say they don’t use transcript GPA but according to you it’s the #1 factor. Wow, thanks for clearing that up. You’re definitely more credible than UVA. I guess AO’s lie but you are here to set the record straight. Oops, looks like you forgot the lesson on causation versus correlation already. |
Anonymous
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If you participate in Dean J’s admissions discussions on Instagram, she has frequently mentioned that they don’t use GPA because schools vary in the weight of advanced coursework, advanced course offerings, when students are allowed to take advanced courses, etc. So the GPA itself is not a level indicator. What they do consider is your level of rigor based on what is offered (and when you are allowed to take those courses) and how well you perform in those courses/upward trajectory, etc. So folks, you’re talking past one another.
UVA has said that they do not require 4 years of a foreign language because some schools do not offer four years/ AP language classes, and others may have other mandated courses. Catholic high schools, for example, may require 4 years of religion, leaving less space for four years of a foreign language. That being said, if your school offers the language for 4 years at the high school level and your student has space for it, they seem to prefer that path (at least according to our student tour guide). |
Anonymous
I clearly know more about it than you do. GPA is relevant in the context of comparing you to others in your school. You (and UVA) can say holistic all you want but if every single kid from a school above a certain GPA gets in year after year, then that is pertinent information. It may not be a true cutoff, but if you ignore that or think GPA doesn’t matter you are a fool. https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2014/01/why-gpa-is-meaningless-without-context.html?m=1 |
Anonymous
Go read 8:20. They very politely and patiently explained exactly what I’ve been trying to tell you. If you want to ignore multiple posters AND you think you know better than UVA, you’re a certified clown. It’s okay to admit you misunderstood how GPA was used. What’s not okay is being stubborn now that you know better. |
Anonymous
DP but I think Dean J carefully chooses words and you have to know what she means. This is a good example. What she says is they don’t use GPA, which is true because all schools use different GPA scales. What she MEANS is they recalculate or they count the Bs or whatever, and HIGHLY count the grades. Our Scoire scattergram couldn’t be clearer that the grades matters most. |
Anonymous
Of course that is all true. However, it’s also true the GPA on your high school transcript isn’t used at all. For the third time: causation vs. correlation |
Anonymous
You keep saying causation vs correlation but you are starting to sound ignorant or intentionally obtuse. Within your school, your GPA, which is reflective of your rigor and performance, will tell you with a high degree of certainty if you will get in. Causation is really just a statistically significant correlation over time. Five years of data with hundreds of applicants at two different schools will tell you if someone from your school will get in with 90+% confidence. Everyone knows this. If you want to keep spouting whatever nonsense you are spouting then go for it. |
Anonymous
Say whatever you want, UVA doesn’t use transcript GPA. Therefore you’re relying on a by-product to make your predictions. Not my problem. Actually, it makes me look smarter because your method will eventually fail. Good luck sweetie. |
Anonymous
DP. But this person is correct, which is why the high GPAs show up in SCHEV. Many of you are so new to this game that you don't understand the role of an A.O. Dean J is, first and foremost, a marketing agent. It is her job to get as many students to apply, so they can be rejected, ergo, driving down the selectivity percentage for USNWR. So OF COURSE she's going to say whatever a parent wants to hear! So she will say one thing outside of her mouth, and then something else to the other side. But college counselors will show you the hard stats: 4.5 GPA/1520/35 at the 75th percentile. Please talk to your own high school college counselor before believing anything you read here. UVA is small compared to some other big state schools. There are only so many seats. There are many talented applicants from VA, OOS and abroad. LOOK at the numbers. |
Anonymous
So it’s a conspiracy now lol sure, the poorly paid AO’s work for nothing to lie to parents. Do you realize how crazy you sound? |
Anonymous
Two of my kids are there now so thanks. One more applying next year and trying to help others who are interested. Not sure what you are doing here. |
Anonymous
Just what I expected. You’re overly confident after a little success. Good luck, you’ve been warned. |