As a Jew, I’m terrified

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"

No arabs and the world hate Israel because Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The formation of Israel took their land and now Israel is committing a Holocaust against the Palestinians .

Israel has destroyed all its neighbors and is actively talking about attacking and invading Turkey for all the same reason Iraq and Iran were attacked.

Fix the Palestinian situation by allowing right of return, compensation for pain and suffering and full citizenship.

Killing people does not make people like you

Tell me you know nothing about the Middle East, without telling me you know nothing.

Read a book.

Google "al farhud" or the melehs of Morocco.

You know it was the Muslim Caliphate in the Middle Ages who invented making Jews wear gold stars, right? They Nazis got the idea from them. They also made Christians wear light colored clothing so they could be identified from a distance.

You don't have a clue.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question here, no offense intended. Why do some Jewish Americans, and other ethnicities/religions as well, appear to choose to segregate themselves? They are living in diaspora. Why not just refer to yourself as an American living in America? Why the constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel based on where your ancestors lived a thousand or few thousand years ago? Few of us are native Americans, we all originated somewhere else, especially 1000 years ago. It’s difficult to comprehend this mentality. This narrow minded thinking isn’t going to help anyone progress. As long as people willingly choose to segregate, they are refusing to assimilate somewhat. And again it’s not only Jewish people. But as long as these exclusive very narrow minded beliefs and behaviors exist, we will always have disharmony and distrust.

What the heck are you talking about? Jews are totally assimilated in the U.S. except for a teeny tiny minority of very religious Jews who separate themselves the way Mennonite and Amish and ultra-religious people of all types do.

We are everywhere, which is ironically one of the biggest antisemitic complaints about us. I mean, there are Jews in business, law, entertainment etc. Segregated?

And secondly, what Jews do you know who have a "constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel" I am Jewish, I don't feel my true home is Israel. (Never been) and I don't know ANY Jews who feel this way.

That doesn't mean that we want to see the nine million Jews in Israel murdered though.

Again it’s not just jewish people. Anyone holding such antiquated ethnic/religious beliefs is somewhat segregated. If one’s primary identity is their ethicity and/or religion that is not quite assimilating. These people are functioning members of American society but just separate in a way. Like if your ethnicity/religion encourages you to only marry the same, that is a narrow minded belief system, if you only attend camps or groups with the same types of people, that’s not totally assimilating. This applies to any religion or ethnicity.

Got it. So if we don't all behave like white Protestants then we are doing America wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"

No arabs and the world hate Israel because Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The formation of Israel took their land and now Israel is committing a Holocaust against the Palestinians .

Israel has destroyed all its neighbors and is actively talking about attacking and invading Turkey for all the same reason Iraq and Iran were attacked.

Fix the Palestinian situation by allowing right of return, compensation for pain and suffering and full citizenship.

Killing people does not make people like you

Tell me you know nothing about the Middle East, without telling me you know nothing.

Read a book.

Google "al farhud" or the melehs of Morocco.

You know it was the Muslim Caliphate in the Middle Ages who invented making Jews wear gold stars, right? They Nazis got the idea from them. They also made Christians wear light colored clothing so they could be identified from a distance.

You don't have a clue.

Do you think we will ever move on? The US is somewhat of a safe haven for everyone, it’s not perfect, but what is?

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question here, no offense intended. Why do some Jewish Americans, and other ethnicities/religions as well, appear to choose to segregate themselves? They are living in diaspora. Why not just refer to yourself as an American living in America? Why the constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel based on where your ancestors lived a thousand or few thousand years ago? Few of us are native Americans, we all originated somewhere else, especially 1000 years ago. It’s difficult to comprehend this mentality. This narrow minded thinking isn’t going to help anyone progress. As long as people willingly choose to segregate, they are refusing to assimilate somewhat. And again it’s not only Jewish people. But as long as these exclusive very narrow minded beliefs and behaviors exist, we will always have disharmony and distrust.

What the heck are you talking about? Jews are totally assimilated in the U.S. except for a teeny tiny minority of very religious Jews who separate themselves the way Mennonite and Amish and ultra-religious people of all types do.

We are everywhere, which is ironically one of the biggest antisemitic complaints about us. I mean, there are Jews in business, law, entertainment etc. Segregated?

And secondly, what Jews do you know who have a "constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel" I am Jewish, I don't feel my true home is Israel. (Never been) and I don't know ANY Jews who feel this way.

That doesn't mean that we want to see the nine million Jews in Israel murdered though.

Again it’s not just jewish people. Anyone holding such antiquated ethnic/religious beliefs is somewhat segregated. If one’s primary identity is their ethicity and/or religion that is not quite assimilating. These people are functioning members of American society but just separate in a way. Like if your ethnicity/religion encourages you to only marry the same, that is a narrow minded belief system, if you only attend camps or groups with the same types of people, that’s not totally assimilating. This applies to any religion or ethnicity.

Got it. So if we don't all behave like white Protestants then we are doing America wrong.

No but anyone perceived as being different, even white Christians in some environments, are targets. Rather than constantly focusing on our differences and trying so hard to maintain obsolete religious/ethnic practices and behaviors, it would be in our best interest to try to be as inclusive and empathetic as possible towards everyone. Religion is a curse on society.

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"

No arabs and the world hate Israel because Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The formation of Israel took their land and now Israel is committing a Holocaust against the Palestinians .

Israel has destroyed all its neighbors and is actively talking about attacking and invading Turkey for all the same reason Iraq and Iran were attacked.

Fix the Palestinian situation by allowing right of return, compensation for pain and suffering and full citizenship.

Killing people does not make people like you

Tell me you know nothing about the Middle East, without telling me you know nothing.

Read a book.

Google "al farhud" or the melehs of Morocco.

You know it was the Muslim Caliphate in the Middle Ages who invented making Jews wear gold stars, right? They Nazis got the idea from them. They also made Christians wear light colored clothing so they could be identified from a distance.

You don't have a clue.

Do you think we will ever move on? The US is somewhat of a safe haven for everyone, it’s not perfect, but what is?

Yes.

I actually think the answer is to eliminate the "psychological and physical need" for a safe country for Jews. Fifty percent of Israeli Jews are Mizrachi and when Mizrahi Jews are welcome back into the countries they came from (Morocco, Algeria, Iraq etc) and there is less antisemitism in the world, then Israel will not be "needed."

But as long as there are actual Nazis in the right wing of American politics who march and commit mass violence -- Tree of Life shooting, and Islamists (on the left?) who SET FIRE to elderly Jews, Israel will have support as a "last resort" for Jews around the world.

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"

No arabs and the world hate Israel because Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The formation of Israel took their land and now Israel is committing a Holocaust against the Palestinians .

Israel has destroyed all its neighbors and is actively talking about attacking and invading Turkey for all the same reason Iraq and Iran were attacked.

Fix the Palestinian situation by allowing right of return, compensation for pain and suffering and full citizenship.

Killing people does not make people like you

Tell me you know nothing about the Middle East, without telling me you know nothing.

Read a book.

Google "al farhud" or the melehs of Morocco.

You know it was the Muslim Caliphate in the Middle Ages who invented making Jews wear gold stars, right? They Nazis got the idea from them. They also made Christians wear light colored clothing so they could be identified from a distance.

You don't have a clue.

Yawn. You know one day Israel will be on the receiving end of what you are doing now. Whoever that turns out to be will make up similar nonsense to justify their actions. Just like the Nazi did. Live by the sword die by the sword.

Remember the area that is Israel today has never been an independent state. The area has no resources and is of no strategic value.

Israel will never be safe without addressing and humanely fixing the Palestinians issue. Everything thing else is just symptoms not the cause.

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"

No arabs and the world hate Israel because Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The formation of Israel took their land and now Israel is committing a Holocaust against the Palestinians .

Israel has destroyed all its neighbors and is actively talking about attacking and invading Turkey for all the same reason Iraq and Iran were attacked.

Fix the Palestinian situation by allowing right of return, compensation for pain and suffering and full citizenship.

Killing people does not make people like you

Tell me you know nothing about the Middle East, without telling me you know nothing.

Read a book.

Google "al farhud" or the melehs of Morocco.

You know it was the Muslim Caliphate in the Middle Ages who invented making Jews wear gold stars, right? They Nazis got the idea from them. They also made Christians wear light colored clothing so they could be identified from a distance.

You don't have a clue.

Yawn. You know one day Israel will be on the receiving end of what you are doing now. Whoever that turns out to be will make up similar nonsense to justify their actions. Just like the Nazi did. Live by the sword die by the sword.

Remember the area that is Israel today has never been an independent state. The area has no resources and is of no strategic value.

Israel will never be safe without addressing and humanely fixing the Palestinians issue. Everything thing else is just symptoms not the cause.

Hmm . . . do you also apply this belief to the Arab Muslim conquest of the Middle East and North Africa, that subjugated virtually every single indigenous group of people they came across, forcing their religion and language on them? Or do you only apply this to Jews?

Don't bother answering.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question here, no offense intended. Why do some Jewish Americans, and other ethnicities/religions as well, appear to choose to segregate themselves? They are living in diaspora. Why not just refer to yourself as an American living in America? Why the constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel based on where your ancestors lived a thousand or few thousand years ago? Few of us are native Americans, we all originated somewhere else, especially 1000 years ago. It’s difficult to comprehend this mentality. This narrow minded thinking isn’t going to help anyone progress. As long as people willingly choose to segregate, they are refusing to assimilate somewhat. And again it’s not only Jewish people. But as long as these exclusive very narrow minded beliefs and behaviors exist, we will always have disharmony and distrust.

There are not Jewish Americans who consider Israel their "homeland" - that is antisemitic tripe. Perhaps you are thinking "ancestoral" as in 50 generations ago or more?

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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.

Well, at least you don’t have to worry that a bomb can drop any time and kill your entire family or that your child will be shot in the head as a target.

So count your blessings.

NP. I agree with this sentiment. I am done with centering the theoretical fears of Jewish Americans with safe lives, over the reality lived by people in the Middle East of the support given to Israel and American policy over my entire life. It’s also a real lie IMO to pretend that the average American Jew anywhere in this country has objective reason for fear of being targeted in comparison to any Muslim here.

Two Jewish people were shot by an antisemite in DC last month. A group of Jews were firebombed in Colorado. A suspicious man with a knife shouted antisemitic slurs outside of a DC area Jewish school. My own congregation in DC had someone should antisemitic slurs outside recently.

Since when is it OK to tell people they shouldn’t talk about the bias & hate crimes they face? Your absurd progressive verbiage about “centering” and “lived experience” aside. i

I’m not saying it’s ok for Jews to be targeted when they’re doing Jewish things. But the murders in DC were specifically related to the Israeli embassy and the incident in Colorado was specifically related to the Israeli hostages. (I think it’s really coming off as tone deaf at this point to be constantly talking about the hostages if you’re not also actively criticizing Netanyahu considering the death toll.)

I’m Jewish but secular and don’t really participate in Jewish activities. I feel no sense of threat. Nobody needs to know I’m Jewish unless I tell them. (If my last name was Goldstein, probably be harder.)

It’s not good for Jews to feel afraid to express their Jewishness. I feel no guilt over Israel. I’ve never even visited Israel. I’ve long thought it was a mess. It’s not MY mess. I’m an American. I vote for America. I make choices as an American.

But to say I am “terrified” to be a secular Jew? Why? I go to anti Trump protests and there are a lot of free Palestine protestors there. Personally, I keep my (generally negative feelings) about Israel’s choices to myself or amongst other Jews. So I don’t need to say anything when people chant free Palestine. Nobody bothers me. I had a Jewish friend with me at one and she started to get upset and I said shut up. Not the place. Don’t get into it here.

It’s definitely a weird time to be a Jew, especially if you’re intersectional with other targeted groups. But terrified? There are definitely groups being targeted in the US. My kid is one of them. But if you’re just a Jew living your life nobody needs to know unless you want them to know.

I mean, yeah - if you don’t participate in Jewish life in any way, shape, or form and are basically a closeted Jew who is afraid to say they are Jewish, you probably have less to fear.

Rest assured, though, that if it comes down to it, determined antisemites will put in the minimal extra effort it takes to suss you out. 23andMe famously had a massive data breach where info re: people with Ashkenazi heritage was specifically targeted. There is some record of you being Jewish somewhere out there, and the technology necessary to discover it is much more advanced than it was in the 1940s, when millions of Jews were murdered regardless of whether they presented themselves as Jews publicly.

You are naive to think they won’t come for you because you’re secular or progressive or whatever other category you think will protect you. It never has. It never will. And in the meantime, those of us who go to synagogue, send our kids to Jewish schools and summer camps, attend Jewish community events - we are afraid, and our fears have been borne out multiple times just in the last month, in the DMV specifically. This is not a hypothetical threat that “those self absorbed Jews” are inventing.

Who will be ‘coming for the Jews’ in the US? In my experience I have seen innocent Americans slandered and reputations ruined over innocuous Facebook posts criticizing Israel. Incessant harassment, slandering, and name calling has forced people to move away. It just seems one sided to think that only the jews are targets of wrongdoings.

The neo-nazi's for the most part...you remember those tiki-torch bearing white supremecists from Charolottesville and their ilk.

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"

No arabs and the world hate Israel because Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The formation of Israel took their land and now Israel is committing a Holocaust against the Palestinians .

Israel has destroyed all its neighbors and is actively talking about attacking and invading Turkey for all the same reason Iraq and Iran were attacked.

Fix the Palestinian situation by allowing right of return, compensation for pain and suffering and full citizenship.

Killing people does not make people like you

LOL, so you are saying Arabs and Muslims didn't have a problem with Jews before Israel was created after WW2?

Really?

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question here, no offense intended. Why do some Jewish Americans, and other ethnicities/religions as well, appear to choose to segregate themselves? They are living in diaspora. Why not just refer to yourself as an American living in America? Why the constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel based on where your ancestors lived a thousand or few thousand years ago? Few of us are native Americans, we all originated somewhere else, especially 1000 years ago. It’s difficult to comprehend this mentality. This narrow minded thinking isn’t going to help anyone progress. As long as people willingly choose to segregate, they are refusing to assimilate somewhat. And again it’s not only Jewish people. But as long as these exclusive very narrow minded beliefs and behaviors exist, we will always have disharmony and distrust.

What the heck are you talking about? Jews are totally assimilated in the U.S. except for a teeny tiny minority of very religious Jews who separate themselves the way Mennonite and Amish and ultra-religious people of all types do.

We are everywhere, which is ironically one of the biggest antisemitic complaints about us. I mean, there are Jews in business, law, entertainment etc. Segregated?

And secondly, what Jews do you know who have a "constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel" I am Jewish, I don't feel my true home is Israel. (Never been) and I don't know ANY Jews who feel this way.

That doesn't mean that we want to see the nine million Jews in Israel murdered though.

Again it’s not just jewish people. Anyone holding such antiquated ethnic/religious beliefs is somewhat segregated. If one’s primary identity is their ethicity and/or religion that is not quite assimilating. These people are functioning members of American society but just separate in a way. Like if your ethnicity/religion encourages you to only marry the same, that is a narrow minded belief system, if you only attend camps or groups with the same types of people, that’s not totally assimilating. This applies to any religion or ethnicity.

Got it. So if we don't all behave like white Protestants then we are doing America wrong.

No but anyone perceived as being different, even white Christians in some environments, are targets. Rather than constantly focusing on our differences and trying so hard to maintain obsolete religious/ethnic practices and behaviors, it would be in our best interest to try to be as inclusive and empathetic as possible towards everyone. Religion is a curse on society.

So minorities should not identify as such? what are you even trying to say?

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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.

Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.

Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.

The Zionism is the problem.

Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"

No arabs and the world hate Israel because Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The formation of Israel took their land and now Israel is committing a Holocaust against the Palestinians .

Israel has destroyed all its neighbors and is actively talking about attacking and invading Turkey for all the same reason Iraq and Iran were attacked.

Fix the Palestinian situation by allowing right of return, compensation for pain and suffering and full citizenship.

Killing people does not make people like you

Tell me you know nothing about the Middle East, without telling me you know nothing.

Read a book.

Google "al farhud" or the melehs of Morocco.

You know it was the Muslim Caliphate in the Middle Ages who invented making Jews wear gold stars, right? They Nazis got the idea from them. They also made Christians wear light colored clothing so they could be identified from a distance.

You don't have a clue.

Do you think we will ever move on? The US is somewhat of a safe haven for everyone, it’s not perfect, but what is?

It was safer in 2015 than it is today, and that is mostly on Trump who gave Christian nationalists, racists and other "deplorables" as Hillary called them, oxygen and power.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question here, no offense intended. Why do some Jewish Americans, and other ethnicities/religions as well, appear to choose to segregate themselves? They are living in diaspora. Why not just refer to yourself as an American living in America? Why the constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel based on where your ancestors lived a thousand or few thousand years ago? Few of us are native Americans, we all originated somewhere else, especially 1000 years ago. It’s difficult to comprehend this mentality. This narrow minded thinking isn’t going to help anyone progress. As long as people willingly choose to segregate, they are refusing to assimilate somewhat. And again it’s not only Jewish people. But as long as these exclusive very narrow minded beliefs and behaviors exist, we will always have disharmony and distrust.

What the heck are you talking about? Jews are totally assimilated in the U.S. except for a teeny tiny minority of very religious Jews who separate themselves the way Mennonite and Amish and ultra-religious people of all types do.

We are everywhere, which is ironically one of the biggest antisemitic complaints about us. I mean, there are Jews in business, law, entertainment etc. Segregated?

And secondly, what Jews do you know who have a "constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel" I am Jewish, I don't feel my true home is Israel. (Never been) and I don't know ANY Jews who feel this way.

That doesn't mean that we want to see the nine million Jews in Israel murdered though.

Again it’s not just jewish people. Anyone holding such antiquated ethnic/religious beliefs is somewhat segregated. If one’s primary identity is their ethicity and/or religion that is not quite assimilating. These people are functioning members of American society but just separate in a way. Like if your ethnicity/religion encourages you to only marry the same, that is a narrow minded belief system, if you only attend camps or groups with the same types of people, that’s not totally assimilating. This applies to any religion or ethnicity.

Got it. So if we don't all behave like white Protestants then we are doing America wrong.

No but anyone perceived as being different, even white Christians in some environments, are targets. Rather than constantly focusing on our differences and trying so hard to maintain obsolete religious/ethnic practices and behaviors, it would be in our best interest to try to be as inclusive and empathetic as possible towards everyone. Religion is a curse on society.

So minorities should not identify as such? what are you even trying to say?

The US is unique and challenging in that we are so diverse. Nowhere is perfectly safe for everyone. The US is diverse but intentional and unfortunately unintentional segregation continues to exist. I believe that some groups want and try to assimilate and become more accepting of others who may look different/ have different beliefs, however certain groups seem to be fixated on and obsessed with maintaining the their ancestral ties. The diaspora is not all white Christians or brown muslims. It’s just a very narrow view of the world that is perpetuated over generations. This does not only apply to jews. Try to look at it blindly with an unbiased perspective. Certain groups are unwilling to do this.

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Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

Nope...this is more generalization and rationalization that is, at root, anti-semetic. Try another approach.