As a Jew, I’m terrified

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I'm not "terrified". I don't provoke people by broadcasting my religious or political beliefs, or by publicly criticizing others, no matter how odious I find their politics or religion. I give nobody any reason, justified or not, to target me. I also am armed, discretely, in public, and am trained and prepared to defend myself against aggression if it does occur, up to the use of deadly force if necessary. I have no need to be terrified.

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Meh, if you saw the white house employees this morning speaking in tongues, you would be terrified. I know I am, understanding that actual lunatics are running our country.
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Honest question here, no offense intended. Why do some Jewish Americans, and other ethnicities/religions as well, appear to choose to segregate themselves? They are living in diaspora. Why not just refer to yourself as an American living in America? Why the constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel based on where your ancestors lived a thousand or few thousand years ago? Few of us are native Americans, we all originated somewhere else, especially 1000 years ago. It’s difficult to comprehend this mentality. This narrow minded thinking isn’t going to help anyone progress. As long as people willingly choose to segregate, they are refusing to assimilate somewhat. And again it’s not only Jewish people. But as long as these exclusive very narrow minded beliefs and behaviors exist, we will always have disharmony and distrust.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.



Well, at least you don’t have to worry that a bomb can drop any time and kill your entire family or that your child will be shot in the head as a target.

So count your blessings.


NP. I agree with this sentiment. I am done with centering the theoretical fears of Jewish Americans with safe lives, over the reality lived by people in the Middle East of the support given to Israel and American policy over my entire life. It’s also a real lie IMO to pretend that the average American Jew anywhere in this country has objective reason for fear of being targeted in comparison to any Muslim here.


Two Jewish people were shot by an antisemite in DC last month. A group of Jews were firebombed in Colorado. A suspicious man with a knife shouted antisemitic slurs outside of a DC area Jewish school. My own congregation in DC had someone should antisemitic slurs outside recently.

Since when is it OK to tell people they shouldn’t talk about the bias & hate crimes they face? Your absurd progressive verbiage about “centering” and “lived experience” aside. i


I’m not saying it’s ok for Jews to be targeted when they’re doing Jewish things. But the murders in DC were specifically related to the Israeli embassy and the incident in Colorado was specifically related to the Israeli hostages. (I think it’s really coming off as tone deaf at this point to be constantly talking about the hostages if you’re not also actively criticizing Netanyahu considering the death toll.)

I’m Jewish but secular and don’t really participate in Jewish activities. I feel no sense of threat. Nobody needs to know I’m Jewish unless I tell them. (If my last name was Goldstein, probably be harder.)

It’s not good for Jews to feel afraid to express their Jewishness. I feel no guilt over Israel. I’ve never even visited Israel. I’ve long thought it was a mess. It’s not MY mess. I’m an American. I vote for America. I make choices as an American.

But to say I am “terrified” to be a secular Jew? Why? I go to anti Trump protests and there are a lot of free Palestine protestors there. Personally, I keep my (generally negative feelings) about Israel’s choices to myself or amongst other Jews. So I don’t need to say anything when people chant free Palestine. Nobody bothers me. I had a Jewish friend with me at one and she started to get upset and I said shut up. Not the place. Don’t get into it here.

It’s definitely a weird time to be a Jew, especially if you’re intersectional with other targeted groups. But terrified? There are definitely groups being targeted in the US. My kid is one of them. But if you’re just a Jew living your life nobody needs to know unless you want them to know.


I mean, yeah - if you don’t participate in Jewish life in any way, shape, or form and are basically a closeted Jew who is afraid to say they are Jewish, you probably have less to fear.

Rest assured, though, that if it comes down to it, determined antisemites will put in the minimal extra effort it takes to suss you out. 23andMe famously had a massive data breach where info re: people with Ashkenazi heritage was specifically targeted. There is some record of you being Jewish somewhere out there, and the technology necessary to discover it is much more advanced than it was in the 1940s, when millions of Jews were murdered regardless of whether they presented themselves as Jews publicly.

You are naive to think they won’t come for you because you’re secular or progressive or whatever other category you think will protect you. It never has. It never will. And in the meantime, those of us who go to synagogue, send our kids to Jewish schools and summer camps, attend Jewish community events - we are afraid, and our fears have been borne out multiple times just in the last month, in the DMV specifically. This is not a hypothetical threat that “those self absorbed Jews” are inventing.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.



Well, at least you don’t have to worry that a bomb can drop any time and kill your entire family or that your child will be shot in the head as a target.

So count your blessings.


NP. I agree with this sentiment. I am done with centering the theoretical fears of Jewish Americans with safe lives, over the reality lived by people in the Middle East of the support given to Israel and American policy over my entire life. It’s also a real lie IMO to pretend that the average American Jew anywhere in this country has objective reason for fear of being targeted in comparison to any Muslim here.


Two Jewish people were shot by an antisemite in DC last month. A group of Jews were firebombed in Colorado. A suspicious man with a knife shouted antisemitic slurs outside of a DC area Jewish school. My own congregation in DC had someone should antisemitic slurs outside recently.

Since when is it OK to tell people they shouldn’t talk about the bias & hate crimes they face? Your absurd progressive verbiage about “centering” and “lived experience” aside. i


I’m not saying it’s ok for Jews to be targeted when they’re doing Jewish things. But the murders in DC were specifically related to the Israeli embassy and the incident in Colorado was specifically related to the Israeli hostages. (I think it’s really coming off as tone deaf at this point to be constantly talking about the hostages if you’re not also actively criticizing Netanyahu considering the death toll.)

I’m Jewish but secular and don’t really participate in Jewish activities. I feel no sense of threat. Nobody needs to know I’m Jewish unless I tell them. (If my last name was Goldstein, probably be harder.)

It’s not good for Jews to feel afraid to express their Jewishness. I feel no guilt over Israel. I’ve never even visited Israel. I’ve long thought it was a mess. It’s not MY mess. I’m an American. I vote for America. I make choices as an American.

But to say I am “terrified” to be a secular Jew? Why? I go to anti Trump protests and there are a lot of free Palestine protestors there. Personally, I keep my (generally negative feelings) about Israel’s choices to myself or amongst other Jews. So I don’t need to say anything when people chant free Palestine. Nobody bothers me. I had a Jewish friend with me at one and she started to get upset and I said shut up. Not the place. Don’t get into it here.

It’s definitely a weird time to be a Jew, especially if you’re intersectional with other targeted groups. But terrified? There are definitely groups being targeted in the US. My kid is one of them. But if you’re just a Jew living your life nobody needs to know unless you want them to know.


I mean, yeah - if you don’t participate in Jewish life in any way, shape, or form and are basically a closeted Jew who is afraid to say they are Jewish, you probably have less to fear.

Rest assured, though, that if it comes down to it, determined antisemites will put in the minimal extra effort it takes to suss you out. 23andMe famously had a massive data breach where info re: people with Ashkenazi heritage was specifically targeted. There is some record of you being Jewish somewhere out there, and the technology necessary to discover it is much more advanced than it was in the 1940s, when millions of Jews were murdered regardless of whether they presented themselves as Jews publicly.

You are naive to think they won’t come for you because you’re secular or progressive or whatever other category you think will protect you. It never has. It never will. And in the meantime, those of us who go to synagogue, send our kids to Jewish schools and summer camps, attend Jewish community events - we are afraid, and our fears have been borne out multiple times just in the last month, in the DMV specifically. This is not a hypothetical threat that “those self absorbed Jews” are inventing.

Who will be ‘coming for the Jews’ in the US? In my experience I have seen innocent Americans slandered and reputations ruined over innocuous Facebook posts criticizing Israel. Incessant harassment, slandering, and name calling has forced people to move away. It just seems one sided to think that only the jews are targets of wrongdoings.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.



Well, at least you don’t have to worry that a bomb can drop any time and kill your entire family or that your child will be shot in the head as a target.

So count your blessings.


NP. I agree with this sentiment. I am done with centering the theoretical fears of Jewish Americans with safe lives, over the reality lived by people in the Middle East of the support given to Israel and American policy over my entire life. It’s also a real lie IMO to pretend that the average American Jew anywhere in this country has objective reason for fear of being targeted in comparison to any Muslim here.


Two Jewish people were shot by an antisemite in DC last month. A group of Jews were firebombed in Colorado. A suspicious man with a knife shouted antisemitic slurs outside of a DC area Jewish school. My own congregation in DC had someone should antisemitic slurs outside recently.

Since when is it OK to tell people they shouldn’t talk about the bias & hate crimes they face? Your absurd progressive verbiage about “centering” and “lived experience” aside. i


I’m not saying it’s ok for Jews to be targeted when they’re doing Jewish things. But the murders in DC were specifically related to the Israeli embassy and the incident in Colorado was specifically related to the Israeli hostages. (I think it’s really coming off as tone deaf at this point to be constantly talking about the hostages if you’re not also actively criticizing Netanyahu considering the death toll.)

I’m Jewish but secular and don’t really participate in Jewish activities. I feel no sense of threat. Nobody needs to know I’m Jewish unless I tell them. (If my last name was Goldstein, probably be harder.)

It’s not good for Jews to feel afraid to express their Jewishness. I feel no guilt over Israel. I’ve never even visited Israel. I’ve long thought it was a mess. It’s not MY mess. I’m an American. I vote for America. I make choices as an American.

But to say I am “terrified” to be a secular Jew? Why? I go to anti Trump protests and there are a lot of free Palestine protestors there. Personally, I keep my (generally negative feelings) about Israel’s choices to myself or amongst other Jews. So I don’t need to say anything when people chant free Palestine. Nobody bothers me. I had a Jewish friend with me at one and she started to get upset and I said shut up. Not the place. Don’t get into it here.

It’s definitely a weird time to be a Jew, especially if you’re intersectional with other targeted groups. But terrified? There are definitely groups being targeted in the US. My kid is one of them. But if you’re just a Jew living your life nobody needs to know unless you want them to know.


I mean, yeah - if you don’t participate in Jewish life in any way, shape, or form and are basically a closeted Jew who is afraid to say they are Jewish, you probably have less to fear.

Rest assured, though, that if it comes down to it, determined antisemites will put in the minimal extra effort it takes to suss you out. 23andMe famously had a massive data breach where info re: people with Ashkenazi heritage was specifically targeted. There is some record of you being Jewish somewhere out there, and the technology necessary to discover it is much more advanced than it was in the 1940s, when millions of Jews were murdered regardless of whether they presented themselves as Jews publicly.

You are naive to think they won’t come for you because you’re secular or progressive or whatever other category you think will protect you. It never has. It never will. And in the meantime, those of us who go to synagogue, send our kids to Jewish schools and summer camps, attend Jewish community events - we are afraid, and our fears have been borne out multiple times just in the last month, in the DMV specifically. This is not a hypothetical threat that “those self absorbed Jews” are inventing.

Who will be ‘coming for the Jews’ in the US? In my experience I have seen innocent Americans slandered and reputations ruined over innocuous Facebook posts criticizing Israel. Incessant harassment, slandering, and name calling has forced people to move away. It just seems one sided to think that only the jews are targets of wrongdoings.


Hahahaha oh nooooo won’t someone think of the poor antisemites who have had their lives ruined by “name calling” “for criticizing Israel.” People don’t have their reputations ruined over criticizing Israel unless there’s some aggravating factor (read: antisemitism) involved. I know this because a bajillion people criticize Israel nonstop all day every day and nothing ever happens to them.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.



Well, at least you don’t have to worry that a bomb can drop any time and kill your entire family or that your child will be shot in the head as a target.

So count your blessings.


NP. I agree with this sentiment. I am done with centering the theoretical fears of Jewish Americans with safe lives, over the reality lived by people in the Middle East of the support given to Israel and American policy over my entire life. It’s also a real lie IMO to pretend that the average American Jew anywhere in this country has objective reason for fear of being targeted in comparison to any Muslim here.


Two Jewish people were shot by an antisemite in DC last month. A group of Jews were firebombed in Colorado. A suspicious man with a knife shouted antisemitic slurs outside of a DC area Jewish school. My own congregation in DC had someone should antisemitic slurs outside recently.

Since when is it OK to tell people they shouldn’t talk about the bias & hate crimes they face? Your absurd progressive verbiage about “centering” and “lived experience” aside. i


I’m not saying it’s ok for Jews to be targeted when they’re doing Jewish things. But the murders in DC were specifically related to the Israeli embassy and the incident in Colorado was specifically related to the Israeli hostages. (I think it’s really coming off as tone deaf at this point to be constantly talking about the hostages if you’re not also actively criticizing Netanyahu considering the death toll.)

I’m Jewish but secular and don’t really participate in Jewish activities. I feel no sense of threat. Nobody needs to know I’m Jewish unless I tell them. (If my last name was Goldstein, probably be harder.)

It’s not good for Jews to feel afraid to express their Jewishness. I feel no guilt over Israel. I’ve never even visited Israel. I’ve long thought it was a mess. It’s not MY mess. I’m an American. I vote for America. I make choices as an American.

But to say I am “terrified” to be a secular Jew? Why? I go to anti Trump protests and there are a lot of free Palestine protestors there. Personally, I keep my (generally negative feelings) about Israel’s choices to myself or amongst other Jews. So I don’t need to say anything when people chant free Palestine. Nobody bothers me. I had a Jewish friend with me at one and she started to get upset and I said shut up. Not the place. Don’t get into it here.

It’s definitely a weird time to be a Jew, especially if you’re intersectional with other targeted groups. But terrified? There are definitely groups being targeted in the US. My kid is one of them. But if you’re just a Jew living your life nobody needs to know unless you want them to know.


I mean, yeah - if you don’t participate in Jewish life in any way, shape, or form and are basically a closeted Jew who is afraid to say they are Jewish, you probably have less to fear.

Rest assured, though, that if it comes down to it, determined antisemites will put in the minimal extra effort it takes to suss you out. 23andMe famously had a massive data breach where info re: people with Ashkenazi heritage was specifically targeted. There is some record of you being Jewish somewhere out there, and the technology necessary to discover it is much more advanced than it was in the 1940s, when millions of Jews were murdered regardless of whether they presented themselves as Jews publicly.

You are naive to think they won’t come for you because you’re secular or progressive or whatever other category you think will protect you. It never has. It never will. And in the meantime, those of us who go to synagogue, send our kids to Jewish schools and summer camps, attend Jewish community events - we are afraid, and our fears have been borne out multiple times just in the last month, in the DMV specifically. This is not a hypothetical threat that “those self absorbed Jews” are inventing.

Who will be ‘coming for the Jews’ in the US? In my experience I have seen innocent Americans slandered and reputations ruined over innocuous Facebook posts criticizing Israel. Incessant harassment, slandering, and name calling has forced people to move away. It just seems one sided to think that only the jews are targets of wrongdoings.


Hahahaha oh nooooo won’t someone think of the poor antisemites who have had their lives ruined by “name calling” “for criticizing Israel.” People don’t have their reputations ruined over criticizing Israel unless there’s some aggravating factor (read: antisemitism) involved. I know this because a bajillion people criticize Israel nonstop all day every day and nothing ever happens to them.

Nope actually it wasn’t objectively antisemitic. Granted, I am not allowed to define what antisemitism is but it just wasn’t. It was someone’s, an American’s, opinion on the Israeli government. A group of cushy American Zionists, nonjews included, took offense and harassed and slandered this family until they ultimately had to put their house up for sale.
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.



Well, at least you don’t have to worry that a bomb can drop any time and kill your entire family or that your child will be shot in the head as a target.

So count your blessings.


NP. I agree with this sentiment. I am done with centering the theoretical fears of Jewish Americans with safe lives, over the reality lived by people in the Middle East of the support given to Israel and American policy over my entire life. It’s also a real lie IMO to pretend that the average American Jew anywhere in this country has objective reason for fear of being targeted in comparison to any Muslim here.


Two Jewish people were shot by an antisemite in DC last month. A group of Jews were firebombed in Colorado. A suspicious man with a knife shouted antisemitic slurs outside of a DC area Jewish school. My own congregation in DC had someone should antisemitic slurs outside recently.

Since when is it OK to tell people they shouldn’t talk about the bias & hate crimes they face? Your absurd progressive verbiage about “centering” and “lived experience” aside. i


I’m not saying it’s ok for Jews to be targeted when they’re doing Jewish things. But the murders in DC were specifically related to the Israeli embassy and the incident in Colorado was specifically related to the Israeli hostages. (I think it’s really coming off as tone deaf at this point to be constantly talking about the hostages if you’re not also actively criticizing Netanyahu considering the death toll.)

I’m Jewish but secular and don’t really participate in Jewish activities. I feel no sense of threat. Nobody needs to know I’m Jewish unless I tell them. (If my last name was Goldstein, probably be harder.)

It’s not good for Jews to feel afraid to express their Jewishness. I feel no guilt over Israel. I’ve never even visited Israel. I’ve long thought it was a mess. It’s not MY mess. I’m an American. I vote for America. I make choices as an American.

But to say I am “terrified” to be a secular Jew? Why? I go to anti Trump protests and there are a lot of free Palestine protestors there. Personally, I keep my (generally negative feelings) about Israel’s choices to myself or amongst other Jews. So I don’t need to say anything when people chant free Palestine. Nobody bothers me. I had a Jewish friend with me at one and she started to get upset and I said shut up. Not the place. Don’t get into it here.

It’s definitely a weird time to be a Jew, especially if you’re intersectional with other targeted groups. But terrified? There are definitely groups being targeted in the US. My kid is one of them. But if you’re just a Jew living your life nobody needs to know unless you want them to know.


I mean, yeah - if you don’t participate in Jewish life in any way, shape, or form and are basically a closeted Jew who is afraid to say they are Jewish, you probably have less to fear.

Rest assured, though, that if it comes down to it, determined antisemites will put in the minimal extra effort it takes to suss you out. 23andMe famously had a massive data breach where info re: people with Ashkenazi heritage was specifically targeted. There is some record of you being Jewish somewhere out there, and the technology necessary to discover it is much more advanced than it was in the 1940s, when millions of Jews were murdered regardless of whether they presented themselves as Jews publicly.

You are naive to think they won’t come for you because you’re secular or progressive or whatever other category you think will protect you. It never has. It never will. And in the meantime, those of us who go to synagogue, send our kids to Jewish schools and summer camps, attend Jewish community events - we are afraid, and our fears have been borne out multiple times just in the last month, in the DMV specifically. This is not a hypothetical threat that “those self absorbed Jews” are inventing.

Who will be ‘coming for the Jews’ in the US? In my experience I have seen innocent Americans slandered and reputations ruined over innocuous Facebook posts criticizing Israel. Incessant harassment, slandering, and name calling has forced people to move away. It just seems one sided to think that only the jews are targets of wrongdoings.


Hahahaha oh nooooo won’t someone think of the poor antisemites who have had their lives ruined by “name calling” “for criticizing Israel.” People don’t have their reputations ruined over criticizing Israel unless there’s some aggravating factor (read: antisemitism) involved. I know this because a bajillion people criticize Israel nonstop all day every day and nothing ever happens to them.

How about if this happened to you? How about if someone perhaps a South American took something you said about their ancestral homeland totally out of context and misunderstood you but believed you to be a racist. And then proceeded to slander you every way possible, ganged up on you, harassed you until you had to move?
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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.


Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.


Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.


The Zionism is the problem.


Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"
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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.



Well, at least you don’t have to worry that a bomb can drop any time and kill your entire family or that your child will be shot in the head as a target.

So count your blessings.


NP. I agree with this sentiment. I am done with centering the theoretical fears of Jewish Americans with safe lives, over the reality lived by people in the Middle East of the support given to Israel and American policy over my entire life. It’s also a real lie IMO to pretend that the average American Jew anywhere in this country has objective reason for fear of being targeted in comparison to any Muslim here.


Two Jewish people were shot by an antisemite in DC last month. A group of Jews were firebombed in Colorado. A suspicious man with a knife shouted antisemitic slurs outside of a DC area Jewish school. My own congregation in DC had someone should antisemitic slurs outside recently.

Since when is it OK to tell people they shouldn’t talk about the bias & hate crimes they face? Your absurd progressive verbiage about “centering” and “lived experience” aside. i


I’m not saying it’s ok for Jews to be targeted when they’re doing Jewish things. But the murders in DC were specifically related to the Israeli embassy and the incident in Colorado was specifically related to the Israeli hostages. (I think it’s really coming off as tone deaf at this point to be constantly talking about the hostages if you’re not also actively criticizing Netanyahu considering the death toll.)

I’m Jewish but secular and don’t really participate in Jewish activities. I feel no sense of threat. Nobody needs to know I’m Jewish unless I tell them. (If my last name was Goldstein, probably be harder.)

It’s not good for Jews to feel afraid to express their Jewishness. I feel no guilt over Israel. I’ve never even visited Israel. I’ve long thought it was a mess. It’s not MY mess. I’m an American. I vote for America. I make choices as an American.

But to say I am “terrified” to be a secular Jew? Why? I go to anti Trump protests and there are a lot of free Palestine protestors there. Personally, I keep my (generally negative feelings) about Israel’s choices to myself or amongst other Jews. So I don’t need to say anything when people chant free Palestine. Nobody bothers me. I had a Jewish friend with me at one and she started to get upset and I said shut up. Not the place. Don’t get into it here.

It’s definitely a weird time to be a Jew, especially if you’re intersectional with other targeted groups. But terrified? There are definitely groups being targeted in the US. My kid is one of them. But if you’re just a Jew living your life nobody needs to know unless you want them to know.


I mean, yeah - if you don’t participate in Jewish life in any way, shape, or form and are basically a closeted Jew who is afraid to say they are Jewish, you probably have less to fear.

Rest assured, though, that if it comes down to it, determined antisemites will put in the minimal extra effort it takes to suss you out. 23andMe famously had a massive data breach where info re: people with Ashkenazi heritage was specifically targeted. There is some record of you being Jewish somewhere out there, and the technology necessary to discover it is much more advanced than it was in the 1940s, when millions of Jews were murdered regardless of whether they presented themselves as Jews publicly.

You are naive to think they won’t come for you because you’re secular or progressive or whatever other category you think will protect you. It never has. It never will. And in the meantime, those of us who go to synagogue, send our kids to Jewish schools and summer camps, attend Jewish community events - we are afraid, and our fears have been borne out multiple times just in the last month, in the DMV specifically. This is not a hypothetical threat that “those self absorbed Jews” are inventing.


Not all of us are afraid. I go to synagogue often, send my kids to Jewish camp and to Hebrew school (not to day school), and I am not afraid of antisemites attacking us here. They sort of want us to be, no? Why give in ahead of time?
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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.


Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.


Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.


The Zionism is the problem.


Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"

Israel exists, so does Mexico, and Venzuela and Colombia and Egypt and Iran, but you live here in the US now and the year is 2025. It’s like when fat people constantly obsess over thinking people are looking at them because they’re fat. Fact is most people do not care that you are jewish. We do not care.
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Anonymous wrote:Honest question here, no offense intended. Why do some Jewish Americans, and other ethnicities/religions as well, appear to choose to segregate themselves? They are living in diaspora. Why not just refer to yourself as an American living in America? Why the constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel based on where your ancestors lived a thousand or few thousand years ago? Few of us are native Americans, we all originated somewhere else, especially 1000 years ago. It’s difficult to comprehend this mentality. This narrow minded thinking isn’t going to help anyone progress. As long as people willingly choose to segregate, they are refusing to assimilate somewhat. And again it’s not only Jewish people. But as long as these exclusive very narrow minded beliefs and behaviors exist, we will always have disharmony and distrust.


What the heck are you talking about? Jews are totally assimilated in the U.S. except for a teeny tiny minority of very religious Jews who separate themselves the way Mennonite and Amish and ultra-religious people of all types do.

We are everywhere, which is ironically one of the biggest antisemitic complaints about us. I mean, there are Jews in business, law, entertainment etc. Segregated?

And secondly, what Jews do you know who have a "constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel" I am Jewish, I don't feel my true home is Israel. (Never been) and I don't know ANY Jews who feel this way.

That doesn't mean that we want to see the nine million Jews in Israel murdered though.


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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.


Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.


Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.


The Zionism is the problem.


Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"

Israel exists, so does Mexico, and Venzuela and Colombia and Egypt and Iran, but you live here in the US now and the year is 2025. It’s like when fat people constantly obsess over thinking people are looking at them because they’re fat. Fact is most people do not care that you are jewish. We do not care.


How is this a response?

The PP said Zionism "created" antisemitism and I pointed out that it had existed for thousands of years before Israel.

Your response is to . . . say what exactly?

You don't care that Israel exists? Great! We don't want you to care. But it seems like a lot of you are really obsessed with it.
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Anonymous wrote:I never understood Jewish support for Trump. He admires Hitler, has shared beliefs and rhetoric, and followed the same playbook. He hired white supremacists and they were his base. Why would you support a man just like him just because a different ethic group was his target? It was appalling, actually.


Those things are irrelevant to Zionists as long as their greater goals are met.

I mean just look at history - the Zionists are Nazis had a long history of collaboration, most notably the Haavara agreement.


Most American Jews are Zionists in some sense (most of us are glad that the state of Israel exists, though most of us also want it to be very different). Most American Jews also voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris. But sure, Zionists are all Trump-loving Nazis.


The Zionism is the problem.


Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism?

What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then?

How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too?

Give me a break.

Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism.

If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel.

If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel.

So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS"


No arabs and the world hate Israel because Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The formation of Israel took their land and now Israel is committing a Holocaust against the Palestinians .

Israel has destroyed all its neighbors and is actively talking about attacking and invading Turkey for all the same reason Iraq and Iran were attacked.

Fix the Palestinian situation by allowing right of return, compensation for pain and suffering and full citizenship.

Killing people does not make people like you
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Anonymous wrote:Honest question here, no offense intended. Why do some Jewish Americans, and other ethnicities/religions as well, appear to choose to segregate themselves? They are living in diaspora. Why not just refer to yourself as an American living in America? Why the constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel based on where your ancestors lived a thousand or few thousand years ago? Few of us are native Americans, we all originated somewhere else, especially 1000 years ago. It’s difficult to comprehend this mentality. This narrow minded thinking isn’t going to help anyone progress. As long as people willingly choose to segregate, they are refusing to assimilate somewhat. And again it’s not only Jewish people. But as long as these exclusive very narrow minded beliefs and behaviors exist, we will always have disharmony and distrust.


What the heck are you talking about? Jews are totally assimilated in the U.S. except for a teeny tiny minority of very religious Jews who separate themselves the way Mennonite and Amish and ultra-religious people of all types do.

We are everywhere, which is ironically one of the biggest antisemitic complaints about us. I mean, there are Jews in business, law, entertainment etc. Segregated?

And secondly, what Jews do you know who have a "constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel" I am Jewish, I don't feel my true home is Israel. (Never been) and I don't know ANY Jews who feel this way.

That doesn't mean that we want to see the nine million Jews in Israel murdered though.



Again it’s not just jewish people. Anyone holding such antiquated ethnic/religious beliefs is somewhat segregated. If one’s primary identity is their ethicity and/or religion that is not quite assimilating. These people are functioning members of American society but just separate in a way. Like if your ethnicity/religion encourages you to only marry the same, that is a narrow minded belief system, if you only attend camps or groups with the same types of people, that’s not totally assimilating. This applies to any religion or ethnicity.
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