
I'm not "terrified". I don't provoke people by broadcasting my religious or political beliefs, or by publicly criticizing others, no matter how odious I find their politics or religion. I give nobody any reason, justified or not, to target me. I also am armed, discretely, in public, and am trained and prepared to defend myself against aggression if it does occur, up to the use of deadly force if necessary. I have no need to be terrified.
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Meh, if you saw the white house employees this morning speaking in tongues, you would be terrified. I know I am, understanding that actual lunatics are running our country. |
Honest question here, no offense intended. Why do some Jewish Americans, and other ethnicities/religions as well, appear to choose to segregate themselves? They are living in diaspora. Why not just refer to yourself as an American living in America? Why the constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel based on where your ancestors lived a thousand or few thousand years ago? Few of us are native Americans, we all originated somewhere else, especially 1000 years ago. It’s difficult to comprehend this mentality. This narrow minded thinking isn’t going to help anyone progress. As long as people willingly choose to segregate, they are refusing to assimilate somewhat. And again it’s not only Jewish people. But as long as these exclusive very narrow minded beliefs and behaviors exist, we will always have disharmony and distrust. |
I mean, yeah - if you don’t participate in Jewish life in any way, shape, or form and are basically a closeted Jew who is afraid to say they are Jewish, you probably have less to fear. Rest assured, though, that if it comes down to it, determined antisemites will put in the minimal extra effort it takes to suss you out. 23andMe famously had a massive data breach where info re: people with Ashkenazi heritage was specifically targeted. There is some record of you being Jewish somewhere out there, and the technology necessary to discover it is much more advanced than it was in the 1940s, when millions of Jews were murdered regardless of whether they presented themselves as Jews publicly. You are naive to think they won’t come for you because you’re secular or progressive or whatever other category you think will protect you. It never has. It never will. And in the meantime, those of us who go to synagogue, send our kids to Jewish schools and summer camps, attend Jewish community events - we are afraid, and our fears have been borne out multiple times just in the last month, in the DMV specifically. This is not a hypothetical threat that “those self absorbed Jews” are inventing. |
Who will be ‘coming for the Jews’ in the US? In my experience I have seen innocent Americans slandered and reputations ruined over innocuous Facebook posts criticizing Israel. Incessant harassment, slandering, and name calling has forced people to move away. It just seems one sided to think that only the jews are targets of wrongdoings. |
Hahahaha oh nooooo won’t someone think of the poor antisemites who have had their lives ruined by “name calling” “for criticizing Israel.” People don’t have their reputations ruined over criticizing Israel unless there’s some aggravating factor (read: antisemitism) involved. I know this because a bajillion people criticize Israel nonstop all day every day and nothing ever happens to them. |
Nope actually it wasn’t objectively antisemitic. Granted, I am not allowed to define what antisemitism is but it just wasn’t. It was someone’s, an American’s, opinion on the Israeli government. A group of cushy American Zionists, nonjews included, took offense and harassed and slandered this family until they ultimately had to put their house up for sale. |
How about if this happened to you? How about if someone perhaps a South American took something you said about their ancestral homeland totally out of context and misunderstood you but believed you to be a racist. And then proceeded to slander you every way possible, ganged up on you, harassed you until you had to move? |
Before that? In Europe? What was the "Jewish" problem before Zionism? What about in Muslim counties in the mideast, when Jews were dhimmis (look it up)-- well before Zionism, what was the problem then? How about the Spanish Inquisition? Was Zionism the problem too? Give me a break. Israel exists BECAUSE of antisemitism. If the Arab world had treated the Jews who lived among them as equal citizens, there never would have been an Israel. If Europe had not tried to exterminate every last Jew, there would be no Israel. So you'll have to excuse us if we don't buy your "Zionism created antisemitism BS" |
Not all of us are afraid. I go to synagogue often, send my kids to Jewish camp and to Hebrew school (not to day school), and I am not afraid of antisemites attacking us here. They sort of want us to be, no? Why give in ahead of time? |
Israel exists, so does Mexico, and Venzuela and Colombia and Egypt and Iran, but you live here in the US now and the year is 2025. It’s like when fat people constantly obsess over thinking people are looking at them because they’re fat. Fact is most people do not care that you are jewish. We do not care. |
What the heck are you talking about? Jews are totally assimilated in the U.S. except for a teeny tiny minority of very religious Jews who separate themselves the way Mennonite and Amish and ultra-religious people of all types do. We are everywhere, which is ironically one of the biggest antisemitic complaints about us. I mean, there are Jews in business, law, entertainment etc. Segregated? And secondly, what Jews do you know who have a "constant need to remind yourself and others that your true home is Israel" I am Jewish, I don't feel my true home is Israel. (Never been) and I don't know ANY Jews who feel this way. That doesn't mean that we want to see the nine million Jews in Israel murdered though. |
How is this a response? The PP said Zionism "created" antisemitism and I pointed out that it had existed for thousands of years before Israel. Your response is to . . . say what exactly? You don't care that Israel exists? Great! We don't want you to care. But it seems like a lot of you are really obsessed with it. |
No arabs and the world hate Israel because Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The formation of Israel took their land and now Israel is committing a Holocaust against the Palestinians . Israel has destroyed all its neighbors and is actively talking about attacking and invading Turkey for all the same reason Iraq and Iran were attacked. Fix the Palestinian situation by allowing right of return, compensation for pain and suffering and full citizenship. Killing people does not make people like you |
Again it’s not just jewish people. Anyone holding such antiquated ethnic/religious beliefs is somewhat segregated. If one’s primary identity is their ethicity and/or religion that is not quite assimilating. These people are functioning members of American society but just separate in a way. Like if your ethnicity/religion encourages you to only marry the same, that is a narrow minded belief system, if you only attend camps or groups with the same types of people, that’s not totally assimilating. This applies to any religion or ethnicity. |