School delayed and no sports or activities for 3 days straight just for cold weather?!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When MCPS doesn't allow childcare providers to operate, parents lose access to childcare they have already paid for and providers lose revenue from kids that drop in. MCPS should pay that money back since the decision is their fault. These decisions are a huge middle finger to working parents.

If you need to have reliable childcare that is not based on MCPS closings, maybe you should find a different provider than the one onsite at your school. You have agency here.

+1. You get to choose whether and where and when you work. You get to choose what back up childcare arrangements will provide the most coverage for your circumstances. The school system prioritizes operations and safety. They are very cautious with winter closures. They are not going to prioritize your employment choices and circumstances over safety of the children and employees they serve.

Nobody is buying these ridiculous excuses and deflections from MCPS mismanaging taxpayer funded resources

+1. "Sorry, but you chose to have a job" is a hell of a defense.

[Anonymous]

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‘ The following is an update concerning MCPS’s operating status for today, Wednesday, and Thursday this week. Plowing school lots and walkways and addressing overnight refreezing has been challenging due to the cold temperatures. MCPS central and school-based staff continue to work to get schools and offices ready to open daily, and maintenance problems are prioritized for repair to ensure heat, water, and electrical service is not impacted. ’

Clearly states why they are delaying school and tomorrow.

There is no overnight refreezing that needs to be addressed in the morning. And building maintenance is no different than if it was 20 degrees warmer. You don't open up a school without electricity, heat, or water.

20 degrees colder means that mechanical systems can respond differently. And 20 degrees colder also means that you even more energetically do not want to have to empty a building to the outdoors in response to a maintenance emergency. That happened at my kid's school once (HVAC leak in a school with lockers, and none of the kids wearing coats when they had to rush out). If the temps had been this cold that day, there would have been even more serious problems. So yes, maintenance is operating differently right now.

The relevant "mechanical systems" are indoors.

How do you think other states deal with winter?

But needing to rush out of a building in December is different in Fargo than it is in Florida. It's more important right now that situations like that be prevented.

And buildings and systems are built for the climates they are in, not for occasional radical changes in said climate that are rare and dramatic. That's why the cold snap in Texas a few years ago had such dramatic and dangerous impact.

I’m not an engineer but I highly doubt there’s major differences in the ways systems and buildings are built in Montgomery County compared to, for example, Philly and NY suburbs. And there’s so much variance based on the age of the building, last time HVAC replaced, and so on that’s it is hard to see MoCo being uniquely more susceptible to some catastrophic mechanical failure during the first two hours of school.

You mean schools in upstate New York don't have reductant HVAC systems and emergency shelters for use during evacuations?

Surely that must mean they close schools all winter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When MCPS doesn't allow childcare providers to operate, parents lose access to childcare they have already paid for and providers lose revenue from kids that drop in. MCPS should pay that money back since the decision is their fault. These decisions are a huge middle finger to working parents.

If you need to have reliable childcare that is not based on MCPS closings, maybe you should find a different provider than the one onsite at your school. You have agency here.

+1. You get to choose whether and where and when you work. You get to choose what back up childcare arrangements will provide the most coverage for your circumstances. The school system prioritizes operations and safety. They are very cautious with winter closures. They are not going to prioritize your employment choices and circumstances over safety of the children and employees they serve.

Nobody is buying these ridiculous excuses and deflections from MCPS mismanaging taxpayer funded resources

+1. "Sorry, but you chose to have a job" is a hell of a defense.

A lot of people here and I suspect MCPS employees yearn for the 1950s

[Anonymous]

Also a lot of people think money doesn't matter until MCPS needs it. All of these neglectful parents that "choose" to have a :gasp: job are providing the taxpayer dollars needed to fund MCPS. Childcare is absolutely essential for the economy but because MCPS is staffed by idiots, they just DGAF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When MCPS doesn't allow childcare providers to operate, parents lose access to childcare they have already paid for and providers lose revenue from kids that drop in. MCPS should pay that money back since the decision is their fault. These decisions are a huge middle finger to working parents.

If you need to have reliable childcare that is not based on MCPS closings, maybe you should find a different provider than the one onsite at your school. You have agency here.

+1. You get to choose whether and where and when you work. You get to choose what back up childcare arrangements will provide the most coverage for your circumstances. The school system prioritizes operations and safety. They are very cautious with winter closures. They are not going to prioritize your employment choices and circumstances over safety of the children and employees they serve.

Nobody is buying these ridiculous excuses and deflections from MCPS mismanaging taxpayer funded resources

+1. "Sorry, but you chose to have a job" is a hell of a defense.

A lot of people here and I suspect MCPS employees yearn for the 1950s

Try 100 years before that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, I just don't understand this fury if your family is safe and comfortable. Snow days? Late start? Cancellations? Bring it on! More time to relax at home or sleep in a little. There's plenty of school when school is in session. The extracurriculars will survive and so will the learning and so will the students.

The concern in weather upheavals should be the families in genuine need, either because they lack important resources, have SN kids who need their programs, or have jobs that provide critical support for others. Everyone else should just let this ride.

Some of us are dual working parents with full time jobs and kids young enough that these closures screw us up at work. It’s ok once in a while, but on the heels of the holiday break and snow days, it’s excessive and both me and my partner’s colleagues and bosses have little patience when we continually are not able to work due to school closures. Not everyone has a SAHP, or local family, or a nanny to just fill in the gaps.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I just don't understand this fury if your family is safe and comfortable. Snow days? Late start? Cancellations? Bring it on! More time to relax at home or sleep in a little. There's plenty of school when school is in session. The extracurriculars will survive and so will the learning and so will the students.

The concern in weather upheavals should be the families in genuine need, either because they lack important resources, have SN kids who need their programs, or have jobs that provide critical support for others. Everyone else should just let this ride.

Some of us are dual working parents with full time jobs and kids young enough that these closures screw us up at work. It’s ok once in a while, but on the heels of the holiday break and snow days, it’s excessive and both me and my partner’s colleagues and bosses have little patience when we continually are not able to work due to school closures. Not everyone has a SAHP, or local family, or a nanny to just fill in the gaps.

+1
Also why is PP assuming there aren't SN parents here? Does PP think SN parents just stay segregated in the SN forum? I guarantee you a lot of IEP meetings have likely been delayed for weeks because of weather-related closures and delays. For some families this means longer delays in getting services that MCPS has already slow walked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, I just don't understand this fury if your family is safe and comfortable. Snow days? Late start? Cancellations? Bring it on! More time to relax at home or sleep in a little. There's plenty of school when school is in session. The extracurriculars will survive and so will the learning and so will the students.

The concern in weather upheavals should be the families in genuine need, either because they lack important resources, have SN kids who need their programs, or have jobs that provide critical support for others. Everyone else should just let this ride.

And what would you say to families with two parents that work out of the home with minimal flexibility and who have kids with special needs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I just don't understand this fury if your family is safe and comfortable. Snow days? Late start? Cancellations? Bring it on! More time to relax at home or sleep in a little. There's plenty of school when school is in session. The extracurriculars will survive and so will the learning and so will the students.

The concern in weather upheavals should be the families in genuine need, either because they lack important resources, have SN kids who need their programs, or have jobs that provide critical support for others. Everyone else should just let this ride.

Some of us are dual working parents with full time jobs and kids young enough that these closures screw us up at work. It’s ok once in a while, but on the heels of the holiday break and snow days, it’s excessive and both me and my partner’s colleagues and bosses have little patience when we continually are not able to work due to school closures. Not everyone has a SAHP, or local family, or a nanny to just fill in the gaps.

+1
Also why is PP assuming there aren't SN parents here? Does PP think SN parents just stay segregated in the SN forum? I guarantee you a lot of IEP meetings have likely been delayed for weeks because of weather-related closures and delays. For some families this means longer delays in getting services that MCPS has already slow walked.

And remember lots of special education services are not provided on days with delayed arrivals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, I just don't understand this fury if your family is safe and comfortable. Snow days? Late start? Cancellations? Bring it on! More time to relax at home or sleep in a little. There's plenty of school when school is in session. The extracurriculars will survive and so will the learning and so will the students.

The concern in weather upheavals should be the families in genuine need, either because they lack important resources, have SN kids who need their programs, or have jobs that provide critical support for others. Everyone else should just let this ride.

And what would you say to families with two parents that work out of the home with minimal flexibility and who have kids with special needs?

F you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, I just don't understand this fury if your family is safe and comfortable. Snow days? Late start? Cancellations? Bring it on! More time to relax at home or sleep in a little. There's plenty of school when school is in session. The extracurriculars will survive and so will the learning and so will the students.

The concern in weather upheavals should be the families in genuine need, either because they lack important resources, have SN kids who need their programs, or have jobs that provide critical support for others. Everyone else should just let this ride.

And what would you say to families with two parents that work out of the home with minimal flexibility and who have kids with special needs?

F you?

"Go to the SN forum, this one is is for parents of normal kids"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, its an issue when roads are slick, buses struggle to run, kids have to walk home in the dark/ice/no sidewalks.

Black ice on the sidewalks.
Cars sliding in small roads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, I just don't understand this fury if your family is safe and comfortable. Snow days? Late start? Cancellations? Bring it on! More time to relax at home or sleep in a little. There's plenty of school when school is in session. The extracurriculars will survive and so will the learning and so will the students.

The concern in weather upheavals should be the families in genuine need, either because they lack important resources, have SN kids who need their programs, or have jobs that provide critical support for others. Everyone else should just let this ride.

Some of us are dual working parents with full time jobs and kids young enough that these closures screw us up at work. It’s ok once in a while, but on the heels of the holiday break and snow days, it’s excessive and both me and my partner’s colleagues and bosses have little patience when we continually are not able to work due to school closures. Not everyone has a SAHP, or local family, or a nanny to just fill in the gaps.

I mean, are your work bosses and colleagues actually expressing impatience? Maybe they are. But I think in a lot of cases people are just anxious that they’re being judged when really the work colleagues are normal humans who are understanding and compassionate that these things come up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, its an issue when roads are slick, buses struggle to run, kids have to walk home in the dark/ice/no sidewalks.

Black ice on the sidewalks.
Cars sliding in small roads.

Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, I just don't understand this fury if your family is safe and comfortable. Snow days? Late start? Cancellations? Bring it on! More time to relax at home or sleep in a little. There's plenty of school when school is in session. The extracurriculars will survive and so will the learning and so will the students.

The concern in weather upheavals should be the families in genuine need, either because they lack important resources, have SN kids who need their programs, or have jobs that provide critical support for others. Everyone else should just let this ride.

Some of us are dual working parents with full time jobs and kids young enough that these closures screw us up at work. It’s ok once in a while, but on the heels of the holiday break and snow days, it’s excessive and both me and my partner’s colleagues and bosses have little patience when we continually are not able to work due to school closures. Not everyone has a SAHP, or local family, or a nanny to just fill in the gaps.

I mean, are your work bosses and colleagues actually expressing impatience? Maybe they are. But I think in a lot of cases people are just anxious that they’re being judged when really the work colleagues are normal humans who are understanding and compassionate that these things come up.

I'm not anxious I'm being judged. I'm stressed I have work to do and seem to have less and less time to do it, all because MCPS administrators despise working parents.