The Pitt, new HBO Max show w Noah Wyle

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Anonymous wrote:Agree that it was a really nice moment between Dana and Collins. This show is so well acted that it’s really a pleasure to watch. Amazing they found such a strong cast of near unknowns.

I love the show but it’s a little implausible that Santos solved the Langdon thing in one shift and apparently no one noticed before. But, given the hour by hour format there was really no other way to do that storyline.

I find Robbie deeply comforting. The world seems so devoid of people with leadership skills right now. Robbie for president! Actually, Noah wyle for president!

My take was that Santos saw precisely because she is an outsider, so she doesn’t have this longstanding relationship with the “golden boy.”

It’s her first day in the ER. Was it the other residents first day too?

Why isn’t Whitaker a Dr yet? I didn’t think they would allow a medical student work in the ER like that?

I’m curious what happens with next seasons. Will it be the next day? Next month? Next year? Is the same cast coincidentally working the same shift?

They addressed levels in the first episode. Whitaker and Javadi are both still med students. They are doing their clinical clerkship rotations -- you rotate through several specialties to get practical experience and develop soft skills that cannot be learned in school. Javadi is a 3rd year and Whitaker is a 4th year. Santos is an intern, which means she's graduated med school (and thus a doctor) but she still has medical boards to take before she becomes a resident.

King and McKay are both 2nd year residents, but McKay started her residency at the Pitt whereas King transferred there from another hospital (a VA hospital). So King is more experienced than Whitaker/Javadi/Santos, but is new to the hospital so she is learning the ropes with them to some degree.

Mohan is a 3rd year resident, and you can really see how she's sort of a bridge between the newer doctors/med students and the more senior staff.

Collins and Langdon are senior residents, according to the show. This would generally make them 4th year residents in an emergency medicine program. This seems a bit odd to me because Collins reads as older and more experienced to me. Perhaps she did another residency prior to the ER?

And then Robby is an attending, and appears to be a very well established one. I feel like normally there would be at least one other attending in an ER this busy, but maybe I'm wrong. There's also Garcia, the surgeon, but she's clearly a resident, not an attending, or she wouldn't be stuck down in the ER all the time screening cases for surgical. Whereas Javadi's mom is clearly a surgical attending.

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I found this episode a little clunky, actually, though the plot with Santos and Langdon unfolded really well and the final couple scenes were really good. The scenes between Robby and Santos and Robby and Langdon were excellent and really well acted. The guy playing Langdon was especially compelling because you can see him getting more nervous and jumpy a the episode goes on and he's worried that Santos is talking to Robby about the meds, but I at least was still thinking/hoping he was innocent and just didn't want to get accused. But the scene with Robby at the lockers was really well written, with Langdon still seeming charming and innocent but engaging in classic addict dissembling, and I found Robby's anger very convincing.

I was sad that was it though. Not even because I love Langdon's character but I just didn't want Santos to be right because she's been so annoying, and also a doctor with a drug problem is a HUGE issue and it's going to ruin his career and that sucks because he clearly does have a lot of skill and ability. And he was really kind to Dr. King, who is my favorite. So just sad all around.

But I found the dialogue in other scenes honestly painful. When the nurses all stand around and deliver union talking points to Robby like it's an ad for nurses? It sounded so fake. I generally dislike McKay so all the focus on her with her husband was not for me. I found the interactions between Mohan and King really forced and awkward and this was Taylor Dearden's worst episode so far.

I did like the scene with Dana and Collins in the hospital bed, and I like watching the nurses gossip about which doctors have slept together.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that it was a really nice moment between Dana and Collins. This show is so well acted that it’s really a pleasure to watch. Amazing they found such a strong cast of near unknowns.

I love the show but it’s a little implausible that Santos solved the Langdon thing in one shift and apparently no one noticed before. But, given the hour by hour format there was really no other way to do that storyline.

I find Robbie deeply comforting. The world seems so devoid of people with leadership skills right now. Robbie for president! Actually, Noah wyle for president!

My take was that Santos saw precisely because she is an outsider, so she doesn’t have this longstanding relationship with the “golden boy.”

It’s her first day in the ER. Was it the other residents first day too?

Why isn’t Whitaker a Dr yet? I didn’t think they would allow a medical student work in the ER like that?

I’m curious what happens with next seasons. Will it be the next day? Next month? Next year? Is the same cast coincidentally working the same shift?

Collins and Langdon (RIP) are senior residents.
Slow Mo is a third year resident
McKay and King are second year residents
Santos is an intern
Javadi and Whitaker are third and fourth year medical students, but Javadi has some familiarity because of her mother

I didn’t say that anyone with fresh eyes would catch Langdon, but that is one reason that I think contributed to Santos catching him. It’s Whitaker’s first day as well, he’s not a doctor because he hasn’t graduated yet. It’s a teaching hospital so it’s normal to have students, interns, and residents. Interns have graduated medical school and they are doctors, but they aren’t allowed to practice without supervision. Some programs call interns first year residents.

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Something I've been thinking about regarding Langdon:

I think on some level Robby knew what Santos was going to tell him. And I think he started to get an idea of it in the scene with Langdon when Langdon apologizes for yelling at Santos but then explains why he thinks Santos is not a team player and needs to be given a hard time. Something in his face and demeanor changed. He still spoke warmly to Langdon but it's like there was a cool undercurrent. I think he sensed that Langdon was going too far to try and discredit Santos, and sharing stuff like her giving Whitaker a mean nickname just sounded petty in a way that I think triggered a red flag for Robby.

And then when we went to speak to Santos, he was very careful about how he worded it from the start. He doesn't say "hey there have been some complaints about some behavior, let's talk about that." He leaves it very open ended so that she can fill that space with anything she wants. And when she indicates an issue with Langdon, he takes this big breath like a huge part of him knows what she's going to tell him, and he really doesn't want to hear it. Like she's going to confirm a suspicion he's had but dismissed in the past because he didn't want to believe it.

And then when he confronts Langdon by the lockers, he has no doubt. All he has is one report from an intern on her first day, but it's enough and he knows. He has to confirm it by looking in his locker, but he has no doubt during that scene even though he's clearly wishing/hoping it's not true.

TL;DR: I think Robby has been worried about this previously and didn't want to believe it or even entertain the thought, but then knew it was true pretty much as soon as Santos said she had an issue with Langdon, even before she'd told Robby what it was.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that it was a really nice moment between Dana and Collins. This show is so well acted that it’s really a pleasure to watch. Amazing they found such a strong cast of near unknowns.

I love the show but it’s a little implausible that Santos solved the Langdon thing in one shift and apparently no one noticed before. But, given the hour by hour format there was really no other way to do that storyline.

I find Robbie deeply comforting. The world seems so devoid of people with leadership skills right now. Robbie for president! Actually, Noah wyle for president!

My take was that Santos saw precisely because she is an outsider, so she doesn’t have this longstanding relationship with the “golden boy.”

It’s her first day in the ER. Was it the other residents first day too?

Why isn’t Whitaker a Dr yet? I didn’t think they would allow a medical student work in the ER like that?

I’m curious what happens with next seasons. Will it be the next day? Next month? Next year? Is the same cast coincidentally working the same shift?

They addressed levels in the first episode. Whitaker and Javadi are both still med students. They are doing their clinical clerkship rotations -- you rotate through several specialties to get practical experience and develop soft skills that cannot be learned in school. Javadi is a 3rd year and Whitaker is a 4th year. Santos is an intern, which means she's graduated med school (and thus a doctor) but she still has medical boards to take before she becomes a resident.

King and McKay are both 2nd year residents, but McKay started her residency at the Pitt whereas King transferred there from another hospital (a VA hospital). So King is more experienced than Whitaker/Javadi/Santos, but is new to the hospital so she is learning the ropes with them to some degree.

Mohan is a 3rd year resident, and you can really see how she's sort of a bridge between the newer doctors/med students and the more senior staff.

Collins and Langdon are senior residents, according to the show. This would generally make them 4th year residents in an emergency medicine program. This seems a bit odd to me because Collins reads as older and more experienced to me. Perhaps she did another residency prior to the ER?

And then Robby is an attending, and appears to be a very well established one. I feel like normally there would be at least one other attending in an ER this busy, but maybe I'm wrong. There's also Garcia, the surgeon, but she's clearly a resident, not an attending, or she wouldn't be stuck down in the ER all the time screening cases for surgical. Whereas Javadi's mom is clearly a surgical attending.

It was explained that she’d had a career in finance before pursuing medicine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree that it was a really nice moment between Dana and Collins. This show is so well acted that it’s really a pleasure to watch. Amazing they found such a strong cast of near unknowns.

I love the show but it’s a little implausible that Santos solved the Langdon thing in one shift and apparently no one noticed before. But, given the hour by hour format there was really no other way to do that storyline.

I find Robbie deeply comforting. The world seems so devoid of people with leadership skills right now. Robbie for president! Actually, Noah wyle for president!

My take was that Santos saw precisely because she is an outsider, so she doesn’t have this longstanding relationship with the “golden boy.”

It’s her first day in the ER. Was it the other residents first day too?

Why isn’t Whitaker a Dr yet? I didn’t think they would allow a medical student work in the ER like that?

I’m curious what happens with next seasons. Will it be the next day? Next month? Next year? Is the same cast coincidentally working the same shift?

They addressed levels in the first episode. Whitaker and Javadi are both still med students. They are doing their clinical clerkship rotations -- you rotate through several specialties to get practical experience and develop soft skills that cannot be learned in school. Javadi is a 3rd year and Whitaker is a 4th year. Santos is an intern, which means she's graduated med school (and thus a doctor) but she still has medical boards to take before she becomes a resident.

King and McKay are both 2nd year residents, but McKay started her residency at the Pitt whereas King transferred there from another hospital (a VA hospital). So King is more experienced than Whitaker/Javadi/Santos, but is new to the hospital so she is learning the ropes with them to some degree.

Mohan is a 3rd year resident, and you can really see how she's sort of a bridge between the newer doctors/med students and the more senior staff.

Collins and Langdon are senior residents, according to the show. This would generally make them 4th year residents in an emergency medicine program. This seems a bit odd to me because Collins reads as older and more experienced to me. Perhaps she did another residency prior to the ER?

And then Robby is an attending, and appears to be a very well established one. I feel like normally there would be at least one other attending in an ER this busy, but maybe I'm wrong. There's also Garcia, the surgeon, but she's clearly a resident, not an attending, or she wouldn't be stuck down in the ER all the time screening cases for surgical. Whereas Javadi's mom is clearly a surgical attending.

It was explained that she’d had a career in finance before pursuing medicine.

Ah, thanks. I missed this but it makes sense for her age and her personality.

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Anonymous wrote:Something I've been thinking about regarding Langdon:

I think on some level Robby knew what Santos was going to tell him. And I think he started to get an idea of it in the scene with Langdon when Langdon apologizes for yelling at Santos but then explains why he thinks Santos is not a team player and needs to be given a hard time. Something in his face and demeanor changed. He still spoke warmly to Langdon but it's like there was a cool undercurrent. I think he sensed that Langdon was going too far to try and discredit Santos, and sharing stuff like her giving Whitaker a mean nickname just sounded petty in a way that I think triggered a red flag for Robby.

And then when we went to speak to Santos, he was very careful about how he worded it from the start. He doesn't say "hey there have been some complaints about some behavior, let's talk about that." He leaves it very open ended so that she can fill that space with anything she wants. And when she indicates an issue with Langdon, he takes this big breath like a huge part of him knows what she's going to tell him, and he really doesn't want to hear it. Like she's going to confirm a suspicion he's had but dismissed in the past because he didn't want to believe it.

And then when he confronts Langdon by the lockers, he has no doubt. All he has is one report from an intern on her first day, but it's enough and he knows. He has to confirm it by looking in his locker, but he has no doubt during that scene even though he's clearly wishing/hoping it's not true.

TL;DR: I think Robby has been worried about this previously and didn't want to believe it or even entertain the thought, but then knew it was true pretty much as soon as Santos said she had an issue with Langdon, even before she'd told Robby what it was.

I didn't read this the same way you did at all. I thought Robby was genuinely surprised by the drug charge; I thought he thought the info from Santos was going to be much more gossipy/non-actionable, and there was genuine surprise in his eyes when he looked down at the drug vial. Great acting by Wylie, btw.

I would also speculate that this won't be the last time we see Langdon this season. Will he come back as an OD? Will he say the drugs were planted and file a complaint so he doesn't lose his career? Will this be something else for Robby to regret later in the same way he mourns his mentor's death? Maybe the emotionally disturbed boy who might kill someone? Just would seem weird to leave him and not see him again imho.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying this series. Wylie hasn't acted enough since ER and this series is really showing him in his wheelhouse; I'm glad he's back!

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Oooh, just watched the episode. That scene at the locker was excellent! Noah Wylie was on point.

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I haven’t seen the latest episode but had to read the spoilers here! Can’t wait to watch!

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I am an outlier I suppose. The last couple episodes have felt slow and too much personal focus.

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NP here. Just watched the season and really enjoyed it. However, I really disliked Santos, and seeing her take down Langdon was unpleasant. (Kudos to the actress playing Santos; I think she’s doing a terrific job making the character very believable while also loathsome). I wouldn’t watch another season with that character— there are enough a$$holes getting away with it in real life.i don’t need to pay HBO to watch more.
Love seeing NW again— makes me want to go watch ER again. Off to look for where it might be available for streaming.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. Just watched the season and really enjoyed it. However, I really disliked Santos, and seeing her take down Langdon was unpleasant. (Kudos to the actress playing Santos; I think she’s doing a terrific job making the character very believable while also loathsome). I wouldn’t watch another season with that character— there are enough a$$holes getting away with it in real life.i don’t need to pay HBO to watch more.
Love seeing NW again— makes me want to go watch ER again. Off to look for where it might be available for streaming.

So the brash intern in a secondary role is loathsome but the doctor stealing meds from patients and working on them while high is fine? Cool.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Just watched the season and really enjoyed it. However, I really disliked Santos, and seeing her take down Langdon was unpleasant. (Kudos to the actress playing Santos; I think she’s doing a terrific job making the character very believable while also loathsome). I wouldn’t watch another season with that character— there are enough a$$holes getting away with it in real life.i don’t need to pay HBO to watch more.
Love seeing NW again— makes me want to go watch ER again. Off to look for where it might be available for streaming.

So the brash intern in a secondary role is loathsome but the doctor stealing meds from patients and working on them while high is fine? Cool.

NP. I feel the same. Don’t like the brash intern at all. Love Dr. Langdon.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Just watched the season and really enjoyed it. However, I really disliked Santos, and seeing her take down Langdon was unpleasant. (Kudos to the actress playing Santos; I think she’s doing a terrific job making the character very believable while also loathsome). I wouldn’t watch another season with that character— there are enough a$$holes getting away with it in real life.i don’t need to pay HBO to watch more.
Love seeing NW again— makes me want to go watch ER again. Off to look for where it might be available for streaming.

So the brash intern in a secondary role is loathsome but the doctor stealing meds from patients and working on them while high is fine? Cool.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Just watched the season and really enjoyed it. However, I really disliked Santos, and seeing her take down Langdon was unpleasant. (Kudos to the actress playing Santos; I think she’s doing a terrific job making the character very believable while also loathsome). I wouldn’t watch another season with that character— there are enough a$$holes getting away with it in real life.i don’t need to pay HBO to watch more.
Love seeing NW again— makes me want to go watch ER again. Off to look for where it might be available for streaming.

So the brash intern in a secondary role is loathsome but the doctor stealing meds from patients and working on them while high is fine? Cool.

I never said he was fine. His drug use does not negate her being loathsome. Both can be true.