How are Big 3s doing with ED?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we arguing about this?
I think it's GDS, Sidwell, NCS, STA simply because they all teach and grade similarly. We could call them "Big3" or anything you wish but the purpose for lumping them together into a cohort is simply to indicate that their academics and the student experience is similar.

Maret is a far easier/more relaxed school. Holton is known to be easier too (by parents who have had kids at both).

You can decide which high schools your child is competing with for the colleges you desperately want for your child however your like, but these colleges have their own list of what defines a school groups out of this area.

The colleges / unversities do not just consider the name of the high school. They also look at the school profile and determine the level of rigor the admissions candidate has taken. A kid taking the highest rigor with great grades from Maret is definitely going to be more likely to get in to a competitive school than a kid at Sidwell with same GPA but much lower rigor.

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Maret is not known for its rigor.

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Anonymous wrote:NCS went 0/8 at Northwestern. Maret had 6 Northwestern admissions. Something is not working.

Northwestern is a tough one for NCS. They’re big on gpa. They admit a lot of TO students with high gpa’s. NCS students tend to be the opposite.

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Anonymous wrote:NCS went 0/8 at Northwestern. Maret had 6 Northwestern admissions. Something is not working.

Northwestern is a tough one for NCS. They’re big on gpa. They admit a lot of TO students with high gpa’s. NCS students tend to be the opposite.

Do the rest of the Big3 schools have less grade deflation than NCS? Because they regularly send kids to Northwestern.

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Anonymous wrote:NCS went 0/8 at Northwestern. Maret had 6 Northwestern admissions. Something is not working.

Northwestern is a tough one for NCS. They’re big on gpa. They admit a lot of TO students with high gpa’s. NCS students tend to be the opposite.

Do the rest of the Big3 schools have less grade deflation than NCS? Because they regularly send kids to Northwestern.

No, they overinflate grades. What percentage of students in your graduating class had a 3.7 or above?

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Anonymous wrote:NCS went 0/8 at Northwestern. Maret had 6 Northwestern admissions. Something is not working.

Northwestern is a tough one for NCS. They’re big on gpa. They admit a lot of TO students with high gpa’s. NCS students tend to be the opposite.

Do the rest of the Big3 schools have less grade deflation than NCS? Because they regularly send kids to Northwestern.

No, they overinflate grades. What percentage of students in your graduating class had a 3.7 or above?

Whether you call it overinflation at Sidwell/STA/Maret/GDS or deflation at NCS, the former appear to have kids accepted to Northwestern and the later does not, despite many applying. The same could be said for USC, Vanderbilt, Hopkins and probably more.

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Anonymous wrote:NCS went 0/8 at Northwestern. Maret had 6 Northwestern admissions. Something is not working.

Northwestern is a tough one for NCS. They’re big on gpa. They admit a lot of TO students with high gpa’s. NCS students tend to be the opposite.

I do think that NCS grades the hardest of the schools mentioned above. That said, NCS grads find college to be a breeze. Fwiw
Do the rest of the Big3 schools have less grade deflation than NCS? Because they regularly send kids to Northwestern.

No, they overinflate grades. What percentage of students in your graduating class had a 3.7 or above?

Whether you call it overinflation at Sidwell/STA/Maret/GDS or deflation at NCS, the former appear to have kids accepted to Northwestern and the later does not, despite many applying. The same could be said for USC, Vanderbilt, Hopkins and probably more.

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Anonymous wrote:Instagrams won't come out until Feb or never in the case of STA. Most admissions are hooked. Lots of denials and deferrals otherwise--many schools denying/deferring everyone from a high school. However it's early in the admissions season--we are hopeful it will all work out.

Yup. Would agree not great so far.

Lots of Ivy and top 25 admits for NCS so far…several to UVA, Princeton, several to Cornell, Duke etc…

That is not lots.

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Anonymous wrote:GDS is doing well this year - They still look stronger than Sidwell this year, but they are not killing it like last year when they had an astounding number of tippy top admissions: many Harvard (6) Princeton (3), etc.

The hysterical posts from Sidwell parents on this thread seem to indicate these parents think Sidwell still has the best record overall despite the fact last year, both St Albans and GDS did better.

Based on GDS’ and Sidwell’s IG accounts (STS’s doesn’t exist), Sidwell is doing significantly better than GDS (per usual) when it comes to college matriculations. If one is able to count, the truth is obvious.

STA’s college placement is underwhelming. Its website indicates that it only excels at sending students to UChicago. Sidwell does well at UChicago and every Ivy, which isn’t something STA can say. STA hasn’t sent a single student to Penn or Brown in the past 5 years! Penn sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans

Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

If true, I stand corrected. STA hasn’t sent more than 5 students to Penn and Brown over the past 5 years. That’s not good. And you will never convince me it’s because STA students just don’t want to go to those two Ivies.

Those kids are at Dartmouth and Princeton and not applied to Brown per the school naviance. Many STA kids CURRENTLY at Dartmouth and Princeton and a few at Yale, Harvard, and Penn. What is your obsession with Penn? It is weird. How many Sidwell kids at Dartmouth or Princeton? Not many considering it is much larger than STA.

That’s a fight you really don’t want to have. Sidwell students are admitted to every Ivy every year. STA cannot say the same. Last year, Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn, 4 to Harvard, 2 each to Dartmouth, Cornell, and Columbia. And 1 each to the the remaining Ivies, except Princeton. The Princeton admit chose Harvard.

STA has only sent 10 students to Harvard over the past 5 years. During that same time period, Sidwell has sent about 20 students to Harvard. Sidwell is larger than STA, but it isn’t close to double its size.

Sidwell sending 18 to ivies is about same as typical year at gds, but is lower than ncs on a per student basis and not much ahead of sta.
Of course, top NYC and Boston area privates blow the doors off any DMV private.

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Anonymous wrote:GDS is doing well this year - They still look stronger than Sidwell this year, but they are not killing it like last year when they had an astounding number of tippy top admissions: many Harvard (6) Princeton (3), etc.

The hysterical posts from Sidwell parents on this thread seem to indicate these parents think Sidwell still has the best record overall despite the fact last year, both St Albans and GDS did better.

Based on GDS’ and Sidwell’s IG accounts (STS’s doesn’t exist), Sidwell is doing significantly better than GDS (per usual) when it comes to college matriculations. If one is able to count, the truth is obvious.

STA’s college placement is underwhelming. Its website indicates that it only excels at sending students to UChicago. Sidwell does well at UChicago and every Ivy, which isn’t something STA can say. STA hasn’t sent a single student to Penn or Brown in the past 5 years! Penn sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans

Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

If true, I stand corrected. STA hasn’t sent more than 5 students to Penn and Brown over the past 5 years. That’s not good. And you will never convince me it’s because STA students just don’t want to go to those two Ivies.

Those kids are at Dartmouth and Princeton and not applied to Brown per the school naviance. Many STA kids CURRENTLY at Dartmouth and Princeton and a few at Yale, Harvard, and Penn. What is your obsession with Penn? It is weird. How many Sidwell kids at Dartmouth or Princeton? Not many considering it is much larger than STA.

That’s a fight you really don’t want to have. Sidwell students are admitted to every Ivy every year. STA cannot say the same. Last year, Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn, 4 to Harvard, 2 each to Dartmouth, Cornell, and Columbia. And 1 each to the the remaining Ivies, except Princeton. The Princeton admit chose Harvard.

STA has only sent 10 students to Harvard over the past 5 years. During that same time period, Sidwell has sent about 20 students to Harvard. Sidwell is larger than STA, but it isn’t close to double its size.

Sidwell sending 18 to ivies is about same as typical year at gds, but is lower than ncs on a per student basis and not much ahead of sta.
Of course, top NYC and Boston area privates blow the doors off any DMV private.

You wish—lol! GDS had a good year last year, and it was about the same as Sidwell’s c/o 2024. GDS typically has a year like it did in 2023 (meh) and this year.

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Anonymous wrote:GDS is doing well this year - They still look stronger than Sidwell this year, but they are not killing it like last year when they had an astounding number of tippy top admissions: many Harvard (6) Princeton (3), etc.

The hysterical posts from Sidwell parents on this thread seem to indicate these parents think Sidwell still has the best record overall despite the fact last year, both St Albans and GDS did better.

Based on GDS’ and Sidwell’s IG accounts (STS’s doesn’t exist), Sidwell is doing significantly better than GDS (per usual) when it comes to college matriculations. If one is able to count, the truth is obvious.

STA’s college placement is underwhelming. Its website indicates that it only excels at sending students to UChicago. Sidwell does well at UChicago and every Ivy, which isn’t something STA can say. STA hasn’t sent a single student to Penn or Brown in the past 5 years! Penn sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans

Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

If true, I stand corrected. STA hasn’t sent more than 5 students to Penn and Brown over the past 5 years. That’s not good. And you will never convince me it’s because STA students just don’t want to go to those two Ivies.

Those kids are at Dartmouth and Princeton and not applied to Brown per the school naviance. Many STA kids CURRENTLY at Dartmouth and Princeton and a few at Yale, Harvard, and Penn. What is your obsession with Penn? It is weird. How many Sidwell kids at Dartmouth or Princeton? Not many considering it is much larger than STA.

That’s a fight you really don’t want to have. Sidwell students are admitted to every Ivy every year. STA cannot say the same. Last year, Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn, 4 to Harvard, 2 each to Dartmouth, Cornell, and Columbia. And 1 each to the the remaining Ivies, except Princeton. The Princeton admit chose Harvard.

STA has only sent 10 students to Harvard over the past 5 years. During that same time period, Sidwell has sent about 20 students to Harvard. Sidwell is larger than STA, but it isn’t close to double its size.

Sidwell sending 18 to ivies is about same as typical year at gds, but is lower than ncs on a per student basis and not much ahead of sta.
Of course, top NYC and Boston area privates blow the doors off any DMV private.

You wish—lol! GDS had a good year last year, and it was about the same as Sidwell’s c/o 2024. GDS typically has a year like it did in 2023 (meh) and this year.

It's 100% about the hooks (mainly legacies and some athletes). Pretty much a 1:1 correlation.

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Anonymous wrote:GDS is doing well this year - They still look stronger than Sidwell this year, but they are not killing it like last year when they had an astounding number of tippy top admissions: many Harvard (6) Princeton (3), etc.

The hysterical posts from Sidwell parents on this thread seem to indicate these parents think Sidwell still has the best record overall despite the fact last year, both St Albans and GDS did better.

Based on GDS’ and Sidwell’s IG accounts (STS’s doesn’t exist), Sidwell is doing significantly better than GDS (per usual) when it comes to college matriculations. If one is able to count, the truth is obvious.

STA’s college placement is underwhelming. Its website indicates that it only excels at sending students to UChicago. Sidwell does well at UChicago and every Ivy, which isn’t something STA can say. STA hasn’t sent a single student to Penn or Brown in the past 5 years! Penn sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans

Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

If true, I stand corrected. STA hasn’t sent more than 5 students to Penn and Brown over the past 5 years. That’s not good. And you will never convince me it’s because STA students just don’t want to go to those two Ivies.

Those kids are at Dartmouth and Princeton and not applied to Brown per the school naviance. Many STA kids CURRENTLY at Dartmouth and Princeton and a few at Yale, Harvard, and Penn. What is your obsession with Penn? It is weird. How many Sidwell kids at Dartmouth or Princeton? Not many considering it is much larger than STA.

That’s a fight you really don’t want to have. Sidwell students are admitted to every Ivy every year. STA cannot say the same. Last year, Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn, 4 to Harvard, 2 each to Dartmouth, Cornell, and Columbia. And 1 each to the the remaining Ivies, except Princeton. The Princeton admit chose Harvard.

STA has only sent 10 students to Harvard over the past 5 years. During that same time period, Sidwell has sent about 20 students to Harvard. Sidwell is larger than STA, but it isn’t close to double its size.

Sidwell sending 18 to ivies is about same as typical year at gds, but is lower than ncs on a per student basis and not much ahead of sta.
Of course, top NYC and Boston area privates blow the doors off any DMV private.

You wish—lol! GDS had a good year last year, and it was about the same as Sidwell’s c/o 2024. GDS typically has a year like it did in 2023 (meh) and this year.

It's 100% about the hooks (mainly legacies and some athletes). Pretty much a 1:1 correlation.

Are you upset because your children don’t have any hooks? Whose fault is that?

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Anonymous wrote:GDS is doing well this year - They still look stronger than Sidwell this year, but they are not killing it like last year when they had an astounding number of tippy top admissions: many Harvard (6) Princeton (3), etc.

The hysterical posts from Sidwell parents on this thread seem to indicate these parents think Sidwell still has the best record overall despite the fact last year, both St Albans and GDS did better.

Based on GDS’ and Sidwell’s IG accounts (STS’s doesn’t exist), Sidwell is doing significantly better than GDS (per usual) when it comes to college matriculations. If one is able to count, the truth is obvious.

STA’s college placement is underwhelming. Its website indicates that it only excels at sending students to UChicago. Sidwell does well at UChicago and every Ivy, which isn’t something STA can say. STA hasn’t sent a single student to Penn or Brown in the past 5 years! Penn sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans

Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

If true, I stand corrected. STA hasn’t sent more than 5 students to Penn and Brown over the past 5 years. That’s not good. And you will never convince me it’s because STA students just don’t want to go to those two Ivies.

Those kids are at Dartmouth and Princeton and not applied to Brown per the school naviance. Many STA kids CURRENTLY at Dartmouth and Princeton and a few at Yale, Harvard, and Penn. What is your obsession with Penn? It is weird. How many Sidwell kids at Dartmouth or Princeton? Not many considering it is much larger than STA.

That’s a fight you really don’t want to have. Sidwell students are admitted to every Ivy every year. STA cannot say the same. Last year, Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn, 4 to Harvard, 2 each to Dartmouth, Cornell, and Columbia. And 1 each to the the remaining Ivies, except Princeton. The Princeton admit chose Harvard.

STA has only sent 10 students to Harvard over the past 5 years. During that same time period, Sidwell has sent about 20 students to Harvard. Sidwell is larger than STA, but it isn’t close to double its size.

Sidwell sending 18 to ivies is about same as typical year at gds, but is lower than ncs on a per student basis and not much ahead of sta.
Of course, top NYC and Boston area privates blow the doors off any DMV private.

You wish—lol! GDS had a good year last year, and it was about the same as Sidwell’s c/o 2024. GDS typically has a year like it did in 2023 (meh) and this year.

It's 100% about the hooks (mainly legacies and some athletes). Pretty much a 1:1 correlation.

Are you upset because your children don’t have any hooks? Whose fault is that?

No, not at all. My kid was among the hooked.

Just pointing out that, having watched this play out for the past 3 years at GDS, that the "good" years have nothing to do with the kids and everything to do with the parent cohort.

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Anonymous wrote:GDS is doing well this year - They still look stronger than Sidwell this year, but they are not killing it like last year when they had an astounding number of tippy top admissions: many Harvard (6) Princeton (3), etc.

The hysterical posts from Sidwell parents on this thread seem to indicate these parents think Sidwell still has the best record overall despite the fact last year, both St Albans and GDS did better.

Based on GDS’ and Sidwell’s IG accounts (STS’s doesn’t exist), Sidwell is doing significantly better than GDS (per usual) when it comes to college matriculations. If one is able to count, the truth is obvious.

STA’s college placement is underwhelming. Its website indicates that it only excels at sending students to UChicago. Sidwell does well at UChicago and every Ivy, which isn’t something STA can say. STA hasn’t sent a single student to Penn or Brown in the past 5 years! Penn sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans

Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

If true, I stand corrected. STA hasn’t sent more than 5 students to Penn and Brown over the past 5 years. That’s not good. And you will never convince me it’s because STA students just don’t want to go to those two Ivies.

Those kids are at Dartmouth and Princeton and not applied to Brown per the school naviance. Many STA kids CURRENTLY at Dartmouth and Princeton and a few at Yale, Harvard, and Penn. What is your obsession with Penn? It is weird. How many Sidwell kids at Dartmouth or Princeton? Not many considering it is much larger than STA.

That’s a fight you really don’t want to have. Sidwell students are admitted to every Ivy every year. STA cannot say the same. Last year, Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn, 4 to Harvard, 2 each to Dartmouth, Cornell, and Columbia. And 1 each to the the remaining Ivies, except Princeton. The Princeton admit chose Harvard.

STA has only sent 10 students to Harvard over the past 5 years. During that same time period, Sidwell has sent about 20 students to Harvard. Sidwell is larger than STA, but it isn’t close to double its size.

Sidwell sending 18 to ivies is about same as typical year at gds, but is lower than ncs on a per student basis and not much ahead of sta.
Of course, top NYC and Boston area privates blow the doors off any DMV private.

You wish—lol! GDS had a good year last year, and it was about the same as Sidwell’s c/o 2024. GDS typically has a year like it did in 2023 (meh) and this year.

Guess you haven't been paying attention. Basically indistinguishable.

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Anonymous wrote:GDS is doing well this year - They still look stronger than Sidwell this year, but they are not killing it like last year when they had an astounding number of tippy top admissions: many Harvard (6) Princeton (3), etc.

The hysterical posts from Sidwell parents on this thread seem to indicate these parents think Sidwell still has the best record overall despite the fact last year, both St Albans and GDS did better.

Based on GDS’ and Sidwell’s IG accounts (STS’s doesn’t exist), Sidwell is doing significantly better than GDS (per usual) when it comes to college matriculations. If one is able to count, the truth is obvious.

STA’s college placement is underwhelming. Its website indicates that it only excels at sending students to UChicago. Sidwell does well at UChicago and every Ivy, which isn’t something STA can say. STA hasn’t sent a single student to Penn or Brown in the past 5 years! Penn sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans

Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

If true, I stand corrected. STA hasn’t sent more than 5 students to Penn and Brown over the past 5 years. That’s not good. And you will never convince me it’s because STA students just don’t want to go to those two Ivies.

Those kids are at Dartmouth and Princeton and not applied to Brown per the school naviance. Many STA kids CURRENTLY at Dartmouth and Princeton and a few at Yale, Harvard, and Penn. What is your obsession with Penn? It is weird. How many Sidwell kids at Dartmouth or Princeton? Not many considering it is much larger than STA.

That’s a fight you really don’t want to have. Sidwell students are admitted to every Ivy every year. STA cannot say the same. Last year, Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn, 4 to Harvard, 2 each to Dartmouth, Cornell, and Columbia. And 1 each to the the remaining Ivies, except Princeton. The Princeton admit chose Harvard.

STA has only sent 10 students to Harvard over the past 5 years. During that same time period, Sidwell has sent about 20 students to Harvard. Sidwell is larger than STA, but it isn’t close to double its size.

Sidwell sending 18 to ivies is about same as typical year at gds, but is lower than ncs on a per student basis and not much ahead of sta.
Of course, top NYC and Boston area privates blow the doors off any DMV private.

You wish—lol! GDS had a good year last year, and it was about the same as Sidwell’s c/o 2024. GDS typically has a year like it did in 2023 (meh) and this year.

Guess you haven't been paying attention. Basically indistinguishable.

It must be tough to be GDS—always trying to measure up to Sidwell. This one-sided competition must be exhausting!

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Anonymous wrote:GDS is doing well this year - They still look stronger than Sidwell this year, but they are not killing it like last year when they had an astounding number of tippy top admissions: many Harvard (6) Princeton (3), etc.

The hysterical posts from Sidwell parents on this thread seem to indicate these parents think Sidwell still has the best record overall despite the fact last year, both St Albans and GDS did better.

Based on GDS’ and Sidwell’s IG accounts (STS’s doesn’t exist), Sidwell is doing significantly better than GDS (per usual) when it comes to college matriculations. If one is able to count, the truth is obvious.

STA’s college placement is underwhelming. Its website indicates that it only excels at sending students to UChicago. Sidwell does well at UChicago and every Ivy, which isn’t something STA can say. STA hasn’t sent a single student to Penn or Brown in the past 5 years! Penn sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans

Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn LAST YEAR (2024).

If true, I stand corrected. STA hasn’t sent more than 5 students to Penn and Brown over the past 5 years. That’s not good. And you will never convince me it’s because STA students just don’t want to go to those two Ivies.

Those kids are at Dartmouth and Princeton and not applied to Brown per the school naviance. Many STA kids CURRENTLY at Dartmouth and Princeton and a few at Yale, Harvard, and Penn. What is your obsession with Penn? It is weird. How many Sidwell kids at Dartmouth or Princeton? Not many considering it is much larger than STA.

That’s a fight you really don’t want to have. Sidwell students are admitted to every Ivy every year. STA cannot say the same. Last year, Sidwell sent 6 students to Penn, 4 to Harvard, 2 each to Dartmouth, Cornell, and Columbia. And 1 each to the the remaining Ivies, except Princeton. The Princeton admit chose Harvard.

STA has only sent 10 students to Harvard over the past 5 years. During that same time period, Sidwell has sent about 20 students to Harvard. Sidwell is larger than STA, but it isn’t close to double its size.

Sidwell sending 18 to ivies is about same as typical year at gds, but is lower than ncs on a per student basis and not much ahead of sta.
Of course, top NYC and Boston area privates blow the doors off any DMV private.

You wish—lol! GDS had a good year last year, and it was about the same as Sidwell’s c/o 2024. GDS typically has a year like it did in 2023 (meh) and this year.

Guess you haven't been paying attention. Basically indistinguishable.

It must be tough to be GDS—always trying to measure up to Sidwell. This one-sided competition must be exhausting!

Oh, i think you were passed years ago. And certainly by the time the Obamas exiited. Stuck in the past, and not in a good way (STA and NCS being stuck in the past is part of their charm).