Are upper middle class family gatherings now just luxury travel pissing contests?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so explain to us. In what context, if ever, are we allowed to mention travel such that it won’t be considered bragging?

If someone directly asks you, “so did you travel this summer?” you can respond with where you went. If they ask follow up questions, you may answer.

It’s that simple. If no one asks, don’t bring it up and definitely do not post on social media.

One could say this about almost any topic of conversation. So don’t talk about your kids, your job, your house, etc. Perhaps you could discuss the weather?

Yes, generally speaking you don't walk up to someone and start randomly bragging about something they didn't ask about it. That's how polite conversation works.

Who the hell does that?

I seriously think the people who claim these sort of obnoxious travel conversation happens have never been part of any of those conversations and are instead just making things up because they’re bitter they never go anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never felt like this was bragging. It was just people talking about interesting trips?

+1

I have loved to travel ever since my teens. It's my big hobby so it will probably come up in conversation at some point if we are hanging out over a long holiday weekend with family.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so explain to us. In what context, if ever, are we allowed to mention travel such that it won’t be considered bragging?

If someone directly asks you, “so did you travel this summer?” you can respond with where you went. If they ask follow up questions, you may answer.

It’s that simple. If no one asks, don’t bring it up and definitely do not post on social media.

One could say this about almost any topic of conversation. So don’t talk about your kids, your job, your house, etc. Perhaps you could discuss the weather?

Yes, generally speaking you don't walk up to someone and start randomly bragging about something they didn't ask about it. That's how polite conversation works.

Who the hell does that?

I seriously think the people who claim these sort of obnoxious travel conversation happens have never been part of any of those conversations and are instead just making things up because they’re bitter they never go anywhere.

Good grief, everyone isn't jealous of your cliche-filled travel escapades. I know a few very rich who find traveling annoying and overrated, especially international travel. Their primary home is a mansion, they might have a second vacation home on a Delaware or Florida beach and that's pretty much the only place they go. They're not too poor to travel and they're not narrow-minded rubes. They're just rich and confident and don't need to try to buy a personality with airline miles and passport stamps.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so explain to us. In what context, if ever, are we allowed to mention travel such that it won’t be considered bragging?

If someone directly asks you, “so did you travel this summer?” you can respond with where you went. If they ask follow up questions, you may answer.

It’s that simple. If no one asks, don’t bring it up and definitely do not post on social media.

One could say this about almost any topic of conversation. So don’t talk about your kids, your job, your house, etc. Perhaps you could discuss the weather?

Yes, generally speaking you don't walk up to someone and start randomly bragging about something they didn't ask about it. That's how polite conversation works.

Who the hell does that?

I seriously think the people who claim these sort of obnoxious travel conversation happens have never been part of any of those conversations and are instead just making things up because they’re bitter they never go anywhere.

Good grief, everyone isn't jealous of your cliche-filled travel escapades. I know a few very rich who find traveling annoying and overrated, especially international travel. Their primary home is a mansion, they might have a second vacation home on a Delaware or Florida beach and that's pretty much the only place they go. They're not too poor to travel and they're not narrow-minded rubes. They're just rich and confident and don't need to try to buy a personality with airline miles and passport stamps.

It’s pathetic that you think there are no benefits to travel.

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My extended family became like this after my grandmother died and her sister developed Parkinson’s and had to hand financial POA to her daughters.

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought travel was a safe topic. I love to travel. I love to hear my friend’s travel stories. I don’t enjoy hearing about boring beach trips to bald island but I love hearing about Asia or Europe. I’m always looking for new places to go with my family.

Talking about cool sites you saw in Asia is fine. "Humble" bragging about your $1k+/night hotel or dropping a reference to (or worse posting a picture of) your lay flat seats is not.

Pp here. I know what you mean when people are trying to show off. We actually do stay at the 1-2k hotels but I don’t talk about the hotel. There are some people who who can appreciate a nice spa or afternoon tea though. Maybe that is what OP is referring to. 95% of the time I would not talk about this but there are those 5% where I actually really enjoy the details of a very nice hotel, especially if the hotel is the destination. We recently went to marina bay sands in Singapore. My kids loved the hotel and the adjacent attractions.

Any comment remotely like this is exactly what OP is talking about.

The hotel has a very famous infinity rooftop pool. The hotel is worth visiting. Has many amazing restaurants adjacent. Also some of the coolest super trees and botanical garden right next to the hotel.

https://images.app.goo.gl/nQhvhRaoLGkyfdJU8

I love to travel, but this is pretty bad. A hotel should not be the destination.

Agree, but will make an exception for Tokyo Park Hyatt from “Lost in Translation.” One of my favorite movies and love the bar scenes.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so explain to us. In what context, if ever, are we allowed to mention travel such that it won’t be considered bragging?

If someone directly asks you, “so did you travel this summer?” you can respond with where you went. If they ask follow up questions, you may answer.

It’s that simple. If no one asks, don’t bring it up and definitely do not post on social media.

One could say this about almost any topic of conversation. So don’t talk about your kids, your job, your house, etc. Perhaps you could discuss the weather?

Yes, generally speaking you don't walk up to someone and start randomly bragging about something they didn't ask about it. That's how polite conversation works.

Who the hell does that?

I seriously think the people who claim these sort of obnoxious travel conversation happens have never been part of any of those conversations and are instead just making things up because they’re bitter they never go anywhere.

Good grief, everyone isn't jealous of your cliche-filled travel escapades. I know a few very rich who find traveling annoying and overrated, especially international travel. Their primary home is a mansion, they might have a second vacation home on a Delaware or Florida beach and that's pretty much the only place they go. They're not too poor to travel and they're not narrow-minded rubes. They're just rich and confident and don't need to try to buy a personality with airline miles and passport stamps.

Yep, my trip to Pskov and Chernobyl were so cliche. I mean, everyone goes there … so overrun with tourists.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so explain to us. In what context, if ever, are we allowed to mention travel such that it won’t be considered bragging?

If someone directly asks you, “so did you travel this summer?” you can respond with where you went. If they ask follow up questions, you may answer.

It’s that simple. If no one asks, don’t bring it up and definitely do not post on social media.

One could say this about almost any topic of conversation. So don’t talk about your kids, your job, your house, etc. Perhaps you could discuss the weather?

Yes, generally speaking you don't walk up to someone and start randomly bragging about something they didn't ask about it. That's how polite conversation works.

Who the hell does that?

I seriously think the people who claim these sort of obnoxious travel conversation happens have never been part of any of those conversations and are instead just making things up because they’re bitter they never go anywhere.

Good grief, everyone isn't jealous of your cliche-filled travel escapades. I know a few very rich who find traveling annoying and overrated, especially international travel. Their primary home is a mansion, they might have a second vacation home on a Delaware or Florida beach and that's pretty much the only place they go. They're not too poor to travel and they're not narrow-minded rubes. They're just rich and confident and don't need to try to buy a personality with airline miles and passport stamps.

We live in a 15,000sf primary residence and also have a beach house and have friends with homes we visit. We still travel often both domestically and internationally.

My husband doesn’t love to travel the way that I do. He would rather just go to our beach house or go to another relaxing place a short flight away.

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Pp again. Our home is very comfortable. Even when we travel to these high end hotels, the hotel is usually not as nice as our home. I’m not traveling to impress anyone and it is ridiculous to say that we stay at high end resorts to impress others.

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Anonymous wrote:This travel obsession "experiences" trend feels like a psyop pushed by social media, Hollywood, and reality TV. It's shoved in kids and parents faces 24/7 from every angle. If you don't travel you're a boring unsophisticated rube and possibly poor. Nobody wants to seem like a poor rube, so they get sucked into it. Meanwhile, the actual wealthy are buying vacation homes, not flushing large sums of money down the drain on airbnbs and hotels for an instagram photo.

Second homes are boring. You go there again and again. Snooze. Trust me, the super rich spend plenty on home rentals and luxury stays.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was young and stupider, some friends and I were talking about all the places we'd been. Our friend, who was a cattle rancher, said, "Well, I've never really been anywhere, but I'd really like to see those big farms in the Midwest."

It made me realize how annoying and shallow I was being, and also made me realize that not everyone was like me.

If any topic that could possiblymake someone feel less than or annoyed is off the table, there isn't going much conversation: school choice, vacations, weddings, job advancement, housing upgrades and improvements, children's achievements, inheritances and windfalls, etc.

I can't tell if this is a troll or not but none of those are interesting topics of conversation. People only talk about these things when they are either (1) feeling especially proud of them, or (2) feeling insecure about them. But otherwise no one really cares why you picked your kids school or how much you inherited when your dad died. These are weird (and tacky!) subjects to bring up.

And since you will then ask what you can talk about, here is a list of things I discuss with friends and acquaintances:

Books, movies, music
Parenting experiences/challenges
Current events
Sports

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so explain to us. In what context, if ever, are we allowed to mention travel such that it won’t be considered bragging?

If someone directly asks you, “so did you travel this summer?” you can respond with where you went. If they ask follow up questions, you may answer.

It’s that simple. If no one asks, don’t bring it up and definitely do not post on social media.

One could say this about almost any topic of conversation. So don’t talk about your kids, your job, your house, etc. Perhaps you could discuss the weather?

Yes, generally speaking you don't walk up to someone and start randomly bragging about something they didn't ask about it. That's how polite conversation works.

Who the hell does that?

I seriously think the people who claim these sort of obnoxious travel conversation happens have never been part of any of those conversations and are instead just making things up because they’re bitter they never go anywhere.

Good grief, everyone isn't jealous of your cliche-filled travel escapades. I know a few very rich who find traveling annoying and overrated, especially international travel. Their primary home is a mansion, they might have a second vacation home on a Delaware or Florida beach and that's pretty much the only place they go. They're not too poor to travel and they're not narrow-minded rubes. They're just rich and confident and don't need to try to buy a personality with airline miles and passport stamps.

That is exactly the feeling I get with many of today's "world travelers." In reality it's just the newest incarnation of materialism and consumerism but with additional ego boost brag about how they "value experiences, not things."

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What if you travel a ton and DONT talk or post about it?

Or would that dash the dreams of all the travel hating trolls here?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so explain to us. In what context, if ever, are we allowed to mention travel such that it won’t be considered bragging?

If someone directly asks you, “so did you travel this summer?” you can respond with where you went. If they ask follow up questions, you may answer.

It’s that simple. If no one asks, don’t bring it up and definitely do not post on social media.

One could say this about almost any topic of conversation. So don’t talk about your kids, your job, your house, etc. Perhaps you could discuss the weather?

Yes, generally speaking you don't walk up to someone and start randomly bragging about something they didn't ask about it. That's how polite conversation works.

Who the hell does that?

I seriously think the people who claim these sort of obnoxious travel conversation happens have never been part of any of those conversations and are instead just making things up because they’re bitter they never go anywhere.

Good grief, everyone isn't jealous of your cliche-filled travel escapades. I know a few very rich who find traveling annoying and overrated, especially international travel. Their primary home is a mansion, they might have a second vacation home on a Delaware or Florida beach and that's pretty much the only place they go. They're not too poor to travel and they're not narrow-minded rubes. They're just rich and confident and don't need to try to buy a personality with airline miles and passport stamps.

That is exactly the feeling I get with many of today's "world travelers." In reality it's just the newest incarnation of materialism and consumerism but with additional ego boost brag about how they "value experiences, not things."

What is the ego boost part of that? I do value experiences more than things, generally. Do you value things more? Which things and why? That could be an interesting conversation we might have in real life - I’d tell you about the travel I love and you could tell me about the things you love.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was young and stupider, some friends and I were talking about all the places we'd been. Our friend, who was a cattle rancher, said, "Well, I've never really been anywhere, but I'd really like to see those big farms in the Midwest."

It made me realize how annoying and shallow I was being, and also made me realize that not everyone was like me.

Where were you outside of the Midwest where you knew a cattle rancher?

Also fyi cattle ranchers are generally pretty well off.