APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember it's optional to send your child to school with a phone at all.

This. Put the responsibility where it belongs, folks.

Its the other kids parents.

I agree though. The punishment for using a phone in class should be the parents must come to school in person at end of week to pick it up. That will motivate parents to discipline their kids to not use phones in class.

Am I supposed to somehow monitor my kid speaking out of turn in class, too? I'm very confident that kids will break rules or not follow parents' instructions when not in their presence; and that most kids are probably told by their parents not to use their phones in class. Just like breaking any other rule, I expect my kid to receive discipline/correction at school for infractions at school when they happen. If it warrants parental notification, then I'll deal with that at home as a parent. Lots of parents have rules about clothing .... which some kids then don't follow while at school. That's somehow the parent's fault?

You bought their clothes, and you bought their phone. So it's your responsibility on what they should possess of these in the end. If your kid can't manage simple things like shutting their mouth or sitting still in class on a daily basis, perhaps they shouldn't be there because those are as much a distraction as the phone. Stop making excuses.

Please explain how YOU are fulfilling your parental responsibilities while your child is at school.
My kid doesn't speak out of turn or fidget distractingly in class on an irregular basis, let alone daily. I'm sure your kid is a perfect angel, too, because you are somehow parenting them while they are in the classroom all day.

You made a bunch of dimwitted, nonsense statements to which I responded. You asked about clothes and I said you bought them (and they exist in your house) so feel free to throw them out if they're wearing them inappropriately. Same goes with if they can't follow phone-in-a-bag rules. As for classroom behavior, you brought that up, too. The fact is that kids who can't sit still or keep their mouths shut aren't punished because parents like you are classroom lawyers that prevent teachers from teaching properly with all your "what about" and "how about" questions concerning rules that a 2-year-old wouldn't even ask. And you might want to brush up on your if-clauses because it might help you to actually comprehend when you are reading hypotheticals so you can respond properly. Or I guess you could just copy pasta into a chatbot and ask to reword using a 5-year-old's vocabulary.

This is the most gobbledygook response I've seen on DCUM. You're nuts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember it's optional to send your child to school with a phone at all.

This. Put the responsibility where it belongs, folks.

Its the other kids parents.

I agree though. The punishment for using a phone in class should be the parents must come to school in person at end of week to pick it up. That will motivate parents to discipline their kids to not use phones in class.

Am I supposed to somehow monitor my kid speaking out of turn in class, too? I'm very confident that kids will break rules or not follow parents' instructions when not in their presence; and that most kids are probably told by their parents not to use their phones in class. Just like breaking any other rule, I expect my kid to receive discipline/correction at school for infractions at school when they happen. If it warrants parental notification, then I'll deal with that at home as a parent. Lots of parents have rules about clothing .... which some kids then don't follow while at school. That's somehow the parent's fault?

You bought their clothes, and you bought their phone. So it's your responsibility on what they should possess of these in the end. If your kid can't manage simple things like shutting their mouth or sitting still in class on a daily basis, perhaps they shouldn't be there because those are as much a distraction as the phone. Stop making excuses.

Please explain how YOU are fulfilling your parental responsibilities while your child is at school.
My kid doesn't speak out of turn or fidget distractingly in class on an irregular basis, let alone daily. I'm sure your kid is a perfect angel, too, because you are somehow parenting them while they are in the classroom all day.

You made a bunch of dimwitted, nonsense statements to which I responded. You asked about clothes and I said you bought them (and they exist in your house) so feel free to throw them out if they're wearing them inappropriately. Same goes with if they can't follow phone-in-a-bag rules. As for classroom behavior, you brought that up, too. The fact is that kids who can't sit still or keep their mouths shut aren't punished because parents like you are classroom lawyers that prevent teachers from teaching properly with all your "what about" and "how about" questions concerning rules that a 2-year-old wouldn't even ask. And you might want to brush up on your if-clauses because it might help you to actually comprehend when you are reading hypotheticals so you can respond properly. Or I guess you could just copy pasta into a chatbot and ask to reword using a 5-year-old's vocabulary.

This is the most gobbledygook response I've seen on DCUM. You're nuts.

Reading is fundamental. I hope your kids didn't get your genes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

So you're A-ok with a lost 5 minutes of class time every day? I'm not. Weren't you people the same people who were crowing about lost instructional time? So it's not ok and then it's fine? Make it make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

How much instructional time do you think was lost due to policing phones?

And then tell me how you know this. For sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

How much instructional time do you think was lost due to policing phones?

And then tell me how you know this. For sure.

You guys lost, get over it. The vast majority of parents don't want phone use in school at all. Kids with parents like you are the reason they're in a locked pouch.

[Anonymous]

Kids put fake phones in pouches. It’s an expensive failed experiment. 130k for the pilot only. Who got the kick back?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

So you're A-ok with a lost 5 minutes of class time every day? I'm not. Weren't you people the same people who were crowing about lost instructional time? So it's not ok and then it's fine? Make it make sense.

I agree. Wakefield, per an email from the principal, is releasing kids in waves, some 10 minutes early. Says it's for "now" while "kids adjust" but then says releasing kids in waves for a school as large as WHS is not a bad idea.

MORE time lost is NOT OK.
Kids have phones out, not all teachers are enforcing. Kids get phones at lunch & then don't lock them after lunch. It is a mess and a GROSS waste of time and money.

I'd like to sue the district for taking time out of the required instructional time.

Also: I have heard only kids with "real" medical concerns will get velcro pouches. Zero consideration by the school for other reasons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

How much instructional time do you think was lost due to policing phones?

And then tell me how you know this. For sure.

You guys lost, get over it. The vast majority of parents don't want phone use in school at all. Kids with parents like you are the reason they're in a locked pouch.

I asked a question about how much instructional time you think was lost due to phones pre pouches. Very telling that you have no answer!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

How much instructional time do you think was lost due to policing phones?

And then tell me how you know this. For sure.

You guys lost, get over it. The vast majority of parents don't want phone use in school at all. Kids with parents like you are the reason they're in a locked pouch.

Actually I think everyone lost. This is an expensive failure. The Yonder company won though!

[Anonymous]

The true believers will never admit this is a failure. Even if hours of instruction time is list they will find a way to justify it. So weird. I guess they are just that triggered by phones?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

How much instructional time do you think was lost due to policing phones?

And then tell me how you know this. For sure.

DP. Volunteering in school. First hand year-long observation across classes and grades.

[Anonymous]

Are the Wakefield kids getting phones at lunch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

How much instructional time do you think was lost due to policing phones?

And then tell me how you know this. For sure.

You guys lost, get over it. The vast majority of parents don't want phone use in school at all. Kids with parents like you are the reason they're in a locked pouch.

I asked a question about how much instructional time you think was lost due to phones pre pouches. Very telling that you have no answer!

Because it was too much to measure. Nobody was sitting in every classroom with a stopwatch to track. Disruptions in the middle of class have longer effects with the back and forth in focus and having to reiterate/re-start instructions etc. as opposed to a few minutes (or none because phones are already pouched away) to ensure phones are gathered in a shoe organizer. Don't be so purposefully dense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised more parents aren't concerned about the loss of instructional time due to the pouches. Do parents not know that the kids need to leave class early to go unlock the pouches? Do they not care?

Are you kidding? It’s way less lost instructional time than has been lost on policing phone use. And way less than EVERY period having the phone hanging bag rigmarole.

So you're A-ok with a lost 5 minutes of class time every day? I'm not. Weren't you people the same people who were crowing about lost instructional time? So it's not ok and then it's fine? Make it make sense.

I agree. Wakefield, per an email from the principal, is releasing kids in waves, some 10 minutes early. Says it's for "now" while "kids adjust" but then says releasing kids in waves for a school as large as WHS is not a bad idea.

MORE time lost is NOT OK.
Kids have phones out, not all teachers are enforcing. Kids get phones at lunch & then don't lock them after lunch. It is a mess and a GROSS waste of time and money.

I'd like to sue the district for taking time out of the required instructional time.

Also: I have heard only kids with "real" medical concerns will get velcro pouches. Zero consideration by the school for other reasons.

Ten minutes lost in exchange for more effective and uninterrupted teaching the rest of the day sounds like a damn good deal.