Thanks for moving the goalposts. Again, nothing I posted was false. |
Take your Ukraine talk to the Ukraine thread |
I guess you have missed all of her speeches the last few weeks which were *gasp* in front of audiences, including the one in Atlanta that had more people in the same venue than trump's speech last night. |
I was there- I left after the dancers were finished. |
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Oh this is rich. “Projection and gaslighting won’t work here.” Then you proceed to…project and gaslight. I have to admit - well done. Like they say - give a person enough rope and eventually they’ll hang themselves. |
“The Trump administration first approved the sale of Javelins to Ukraine in December 2017 -- a step that former President Barack Obama never took and that Trump allies have pointed to as a sign of Trump's toughness on Russia. Ukraine has been fighting Russian-armed and led separatists in its eastern provinces since 2014, shortly after Russia illegally occupied and annexed Crimea, in a war that has claimed approximately 13,000 lives and displaced 1.5 million people, according to the Ukrainian government. That first sale, which was completed in March 2018, included 210 Javelin missiles and 37 launch units and was intended to "help Ukraine build its long-term defense capacity to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity in order to meet its national defense requirements," according to the Defense Security Cooperation Agency.“ https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898 U.S.-made Javelin missiles are ‘vital’ to Ukraine’s fight against Russia, experts say https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna20878 “The Javelin antitank missiles that figured in former President Donald Trump’s first impeachment for deliberately delaying military aid to Ukraine are now wreaking havoc on the Russian invaders. The lightweight but lethal weapon has, military experts said, helped the underdog Ukrainians inflict major damage on Moscow’s much-vaunted military and stymie their advance. Not only has the United States-made weapon become a symbol of resistance, it’s been dubbed “Saint Javelin” in a meme circulating on the web created by Canadian marketer Christian Borys, which shows Mary Magdalene, a saint of the Orthodox church, cradling a Javelin in her arms. “The Javelin, very specifically that system’s advanced capabilities, have been vital to Ukrainian military survival and ability to hold ground” against the Russians, said John Spencer, chair of urban warfare studies at the nonpartisan Madison Policy Forum in New York City.” The javelin were not being stored away indefinitely. |
On the debate rules for ABC? I think you need to get your eyes checked. |
Donbas and Crimea were claimed by russia. Ukraine could not take Javelin into russian claimed territory and use them against russian tanks as that would have caused WWIII. If ukrainians had done so, russia/Putin would’ve had the right/excuse to strike the US on American soil. That is specifically why Obama refused to sell Ukraine javelin. The javelin could not and still cannot be used on any soil russia claims as their land. Javelin are to be used on ukrainian territory only for defense. |
+1 . This thread is great evidence of that. This independent voter is over it already. |
+1 million! |
Yes both sides Both sides are behaving like 5 year olds. You are so far up your side that you can't see it. |
Baier is as full of Trump sh|t as everyone else at Fox, as exposed by his emails publicized by the Dominion lawsuit. |
Trump was running scared from Biden too, according to dcum. |
Harris hasn't even been invited to the September 4th debate. She was told to be there by Trump via Twitter. |
The thing you put in red happened WHEN BIDEN WAS PRESIDENT. |