Can someone explain to me why so many on here would never remarry?

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Anonymous wrote:Something wrong with all you single people. You won’t remarry because you aren’t the marrying type in the first place and are all bitter.

Yea, a great constellation of opportunistic users on this thread with zero morals or attachments

Maybe if men want women to have “morals and attachments” and marry them, they should step up and contribute more to relationships. The stark difference between male and female interest in dating & remarriage indicates men are doing something pretty wrong collectively. Once we no longer need men to provide children or money, the equation shifts. There’s nothing immoral about it.

Maybe you’re the problem with playing victim.

ha you wish. it really bothers you that older women don’t want to get married.

“I don’t want to get married again I’m tired of taking care of useless manbabies” is pure cope from women who are old and unattractive and thus men aren’t interested in marrying them.

How nice of you to mansplain womens' feelings to us.

(Or if you you're an awful woman, to presume you know what all women are thinking or what they really mean).

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these posts from women is entertaining. The women think they are not the cause or partial cause of the divorce and have everything going for them. Get real. Most divorced women I know, and I admit I don't know that many, are out of their prime looks-wise and have attitudes. The divorced men I know say the same thing about not getting remarried. Sure divorced women may have successful careers and money but so do a lot of single/divorced guys I know. I don't any of them would look to have a relationship with any of you. Just a quick roll in the hay if you were attractive and then that's it. Enjoy your independence.

I mean, I see a lot of women who are saying they’d be fine with a quick roll in the hay and don’t want more, maybe not even that. Why does that bother you so much? That seems win-win for all involved.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't see any benefits to remarriage for me at this life stage. Older people who seem most keen on remarriage are typically religious, looking for financial gain, or wealthy men who have fallen for a younger woman and want to have a family together. None of those things apply. My life is full, and while dating and companionship are appealing, marriage is not. I can't conceive of changing my mind on this point.

Don't project your mean spirited thinking at others. I'm a wealthy woman, but I do want to remarry in my 40s or 50s. Reasons are not to seek financial gain, but to build a life, plan retirement, medical care, travel together with a partner. Support each other in bad and good. I still believe that is possible. Of course you can do some of that with a boyfriend, but not being married makes long term planning harder. And I also have a good lawyer who can draft a prenup, and wouldn't marry until after at least 3 years of co-habilitation. I believe marriage is a great tool to raise kids but can also serve as a good middle age planning for the mutual well-being, if the partner is right.

I'm the PP. I admit life has made me cynical about second marriages, but not mean-spirited. Your post suggests a fourth category - a hopeless romantic. Reading and life suggests if either person has children, second marriages are not good for mutual well-being, as they bring conflicting loyalties and priorities.

I'm not a hopeless romantic. Marriage is a totally practical institute, and I had a long and rather successful first marriage. Yes, we both made mistakes but I selected my first husband wisely: we were both driven, professional and hard working. We both made tons of money during marriage, joined resources in child raising and building up wealth. Neither of us lost wealth after divorce: each had it multiplied many times over what our individual NW was prior to marriage. I dont have "multiple kids" still at home. I'm an empty nester with one child. I don't date men with more than one child either, and their child should be over 13 years of age. Don't date those who wouldn't want to co-habilite or remarry in a long term perspective.
You don't don't want a relationship, period. Others want it.

If you ended up divorced, you absolutely did not select wisely. Your post is delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't see any benefits to remarriage for me at this life stage. Older people who seem most keen on remarriage are typically religious, looking for financial gain, or wealthy men who have fallen for a younger woman and want to have a family together. None of those things apply. My life is full, and while dating and companionship are appealing, marriage is not. I can't conceive of changing my mind on this point.

Don't project your mean spirited thinking at others. I'm a wealthy woman, but I do want to remarry in my 40s or 50s. Reasons are not to seek financial gain, but to build a life, plan retirement, medical care, travel together with a partner. Support each other in bad and good. I still believe that is possible. Of course you can do some of that with a boyfriend, but not being married makes long term planning harder. And I also have a good lawyer who can draft a prenup, and wouldn't marry until after at least 3 years of co-habilitation. I believe marriage is a great tool to raise kids but can also serve as a good middle age planning for the mutual well-being, if the partner is right.

I'm the PP. I admit life has made me cynical about second marriages, but not mean-spirited. Your post suggests a fourth category - a hopeless romantic. Reading and life suggests if either person has children, second marriages are not good for mutual well-being, as they bring conflicting loyalties and priorities.

I'm not a hopeless romantic. Marriage is a totally practical institute, and I had a long and rather successful first marriage. Yes, we both made mistakes but I selected my first husband wisely: we were both driven, professional and hard working. We both made tons of money during marriage, joined resources in child raising and building up wealth. Neither of us lost wealth after divorce: each had it multiplied many times over what our individual NW was prior to marriage. I dont have "multiple kids" still at home. I'm an empty nester with one child. I don't date men with more than one child either, and their child should be over 13 years of age. Don't date those who wouldn't want to co-habilite or remarry in a long term perspective.
You don't don't want a relationship, period. Others want it.

Not wanting to remarry is not the same as not wanting relationships.

RelationshipS in plural is the general common denominator for the PP commenters above, men and women. They are totally discouraged in committing and either just want switch partners every 2-3 years. This has nothing to do with building a life with someone, or joint future. They just want zero entanglements and an easy exit. Maybe for some it's tempting but for me to be happy I need to be the center of his universe and other way around.
And I have zero desire to date in my mid 50s looking for a new BF every 3 years. Seems too complicated and takes the lifetime from other important goals and people in my life, all that OLD dating.

I don't date men with multiple children (even college age), as I could see from these photos that kids are the center of their universe and I will always be secondary. I'm mid 40s, but I meet a lot of single never married slightly younger men, or men with one child who still want to commit. Of course if a guy has that many kids the women's role in his life would be limited to FWB (e.g. meeting on demand whenever he's available for a nice date followed by sex, maybe travel sometimes).

I want to have make a home with someone who I love in my space at some point (and no, he wouldn't need to buy it for me, I'm totally fine to equally contribute). I probably wouldn't marry outright, but would own a home with long term partner as a first step, and to see if we are able to coexist and enjoy it.

Man, the bolded makes be deeply pity those poor singleton kids of the men you date. What a nightmare!

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Anonymous wrote:Something wrong with all you single people. You won’t remarry because you aren’t the marrying type in the first place and are all bitter.

Yea, a great constellation of opportunistic users on this thread with zero morals or attachments

Maybe if men want women to have “morals and attachments” and marry them, they should step up and contribute more to relationships. The stark difference between male and female interest in dating & remarriage indicates men are doing something pretty wrong collectively. Once we no longer need men to provide children or money, the equation shifts. There’s nothing immoral about it.

Maybe you’re the problem with playing victim.

ha you wish. it really bothers you that older women don’t want to get married.

“I don’t want to get married again I’m tired of taking care of useless manbabies” is pure cope from women who are old and unattractive and thus men aren’t interested in marrying them.

It's the opposite. Women who are the most attractive and independently wealthy are the least likely to want remarriage. And so what? Plenty of women want marriage or remarriage, so date them if that's your goal. No need to get testy on here.

True. And the only woman I know who did remarry ended up with a real albatross. I see literally zero role models for remarriage in my life, but many very content older single women.

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Anonymous wrote:Something wrong with all you single people. You won’t remarry because you aren’t the marrying type in the first place and are all bitter.

Yea, a great constellation of opportunistic users on this thread with zero morals or attachments

I have a marriage that people envy. We’ve been married for many years and are still in love, still attracted to each other. I adore my husband. He’s my everything.

And yet, if he died — I will never divorce him and I’m pretty sure he won’t divorce me — I will remain a widow for the rest of my life. I don’t want to marry again. I hit the jackpot once. I will settle into enjoying grandkids and maybe dating a bit. But I will never remarry.

When I look at friends, either single or divorced (male or female), the ones who remarried seem a lot less happy and content than the ones who decided to remain single. Also, the families and children of the single ones are a lot less messed up. By single, I mean unmarried, not that they aren’t in relationships. Anyhow it hasn’t given me a great opinion of remarriage.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't see any benefits to remarriage for me at this life stage. Older people who seem most keen on remarriage are typically religious, looking for financial gain, or wealthy men who have fallen for a younger woman and want to have a family together. None of those things apply. My life is full, and while dating and companionship are appealing, marriage is not. I can't conceive of changing my mind on this point.

Don't project your mean spirited thinking at others. I'm a wealthy woman, but I do want to remarry in my 40s or 50s. Reasons are not to seek financial gain, but to build a life, plan retirement, medical care, travel together with a partner. Support each other in bad and good. I still believe that is possible. Of course you can do some of that with a boyfriend, but not being married makes long term planning harder. And I also have a good lawyer who can draft a prenup, and wouldn't marry until after at least 3 years of co-habilitation. I believe marriage is a great tool to raise kids but can also serve as a good middle age planning for the mutual well-being, if the partner is right.

I'm the PP. I admit life has made me cynical about second marriages, but not mean-spirited. Your post suggests a fourth category - a hopeless romantic. Reading and life suggests if either person has children, second marriages are not good for mutual well-being, as they bring conflicting loyalties and priorities.

I'm not a hopeless romantic. Marriage is a totally practical institute, and I had a long and rather successful first marriage. Yes, we both made mistakes but I selected my first husband wisely: we were both driven, professional and hard working. We both made tons of money during marriage, joined resources in child raising and building up wealth. Neither of us lost wealth after divorce: each had it multiplied many times over what our individual NW was prior to marriage. I dont have "multiple kids" still at home. I'm an empty nester with one child. I don't date men with more than one child either, and their child should be over 13 years of age. Don't date those who wouldn't want to co-habilite or remarry in a long term perspective.
You don't don't want a relationship, period. Others want it.

Not wanting to remarry is not the same as not wanting relationships.

RelationshipS in plural is the general common denominator for the PP commenters above, men and women. They are totally discouraged in committing and either just want switch partners every 2-3 years. This has nothing to do with building a life with someone, or joint future. They just want zero entanglements and an easy exit. Maybe for some it's tempting but for me to be happy I need to be the center of his universe and other way around.
And I have zero desire to date in my mid 50s looking for a new BF every 3 years. Seems too complicated and takes the lifetime from other important goals and people in my life, all that OLD dating.

I don't date men with multiple children (even college age), as I could see from these photos that kids are the center of their universe and I will always be secondary. I'm mid 40s, but I meet a lot of single never married slightly younger men, or men with one child who still want to commit. Of course if a guy has that many kids the women's role in his life would be limited to FWB (e.g. meeting on demand whenever he's available for a nice date followed by sex, maybe travel sometimes).

I want to have make a home with someone who I love in my space at some point (and no, he wouldn't need to buy it for me, I'm totally fine to equally contribute). I probably wouldn't marry outright, but would own a home with long term partner as a first step, and to see if we are able to coexist and enjoy it.

Man, the bolded makes be deeply pity those poor singleton kids of the men you date. What a nightmare!

Why? My parents are still married, and my adult siblings and I are not the center of their universe. My parents are in the more selfish phase of their retirement, as they are still healthy enough to enjoy sports and heavy traveling. We see them for holidays, plus maybe an additional week a year, and they check in on grandkids regularly, but we're not the center of their universe. I'm happy they're happy and living their lives while they can.

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Anonymous wrote:Something wrong with all you single people. You won’t remarry because you aren’t the marrying type in the first place and are all bitter.

Yea, a great constellation of opportunistic users on this thread with zero morals or attachments

Maybe if men want women to have “morals and attachments” and marry them, they should step up and contribute more to relationships. The stark difference between male and female interest in dating & remarriage indicates men are doing something pretty wrong collectively. Once we no longer need men to provide children or money, the equation shifts. There’s nothing immoral about it.

Maybe you’re the problem with playing victim.

It seems that the woman above just didn't have a great dating experience. I met men on OLD and in RL who were able to offer me a lot, and would bring a lot to the equation. I don't only mean joint travel or nice dates. I've met highly intellectual men, who were great advisors in career, overall life well-being and personal growth to me. One person offered to edit my CV, for example, and gave suggestions where to send it (I didn't even sleep with him). Another had me join all local social groups, engaged in the community, business clubs and was taking me out dancing when I was going through very difficult personal times. Again, didn't even sleep with the person, only date socially at that point. Dating helps me a lot to grow as a person and truly understand men.
I don't know where you ladies find such trashy men who are not able to give you anything at all, besides sex.

You have low standards. Editing a document is now considered bringing a lot to the equation? I mean I can ask ChatGPT to do that for me.

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Anonymous wrote:Something wrong with all you single people. You won’t remarry because you aren’t the marrying type in the first place and are all bitter.

Yea, a great constellation of opportunistic users on this thread with zero morals or attachments

Maybe if men want women to have “morals and attachments” and marry them, they should step up and contribute more to relationships. The stark difference between male and female interest in dating & remarriage indicates men are doing something pretty wrong collectively. Once we no longer need men to provide children or money, the equation shifts. There’s nothing immoral about it.

Maybe you’re the problem with playing victim.

It seems that the woman above just didn't have a great dating experience. I met men on OLD and in RL who were able to offer me a lot, and would bring a lot to the equation. I don't only mean joint travel or nice dates. I've met highly intellectual men, who were great advisors in career, overall life well-being and personal growth to me. One person offered to edit my CV, for example, and gave suggestions where to send it (I didn't even sleep with him). Another had me join all local social groups, engaged in the community, business clubs and was taking me out dancing when I was going through very difficult personal times. Again, didn't even sleep with the person, only date socially at that point. Dating helps me a lot to grow as a person and truly understand men.
I don't know where you ladies find such trashy men who are not able to give you anything at all, besides sex.

You have low standards. Editing a document is now considered bringing a lot to the equation? I mean I can ask ChatGPT to do that for me.

He sent it to HR units, it wasn't just editing (I omitted it). Don't underestimate other women on OLD

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Anonymous wrote:I can't see any benefits to remarriage for me at this life stage. Older people who seem most keen on remarriage are typically religious, looking for financial gain, or wealthy men who have fallen for a younger woman and want to have a family together. None of those things apply. My life is full, and while dating and companionship are appealing, marriage is not. I can't conceive of changing my mind on this point.

Don't project your mean spirited thinking at others. I'm a wealthy woman, but I do want to remarry in my 40s or 50s. Reasons are not to seek financial gain, but to build a life, plan retirement, medical care, travel together with a partner. Support each other in bad and good. I still believe that is possible. Of course you can do some of that with a boyfriend, but not being married makes long term planning harder. And I also have a good lawyer who can draft a prenup, and wouldn't marry until after at least 3 years of co-habilitation. I believe marriage is a great tool to raise kids but can also serve as a good middle age planning for the mutual well-being, if the partner is right.

I'm the PP. I admit life has made me cynical about second marriages, but not mean-spirited. Your post suggests a fourth category - a hopeless romantic. Reading and life suggests if either person has children, second marriages are not good for mutual well-being, as they bring conflicting loyalties and priorities.

I'm not a hopeless romantic. Marriage is a totally practical institute, and I had a long and rather successful first marriage. Yes, we both made mistakes but I selected my first husband wisely: we were both driven, professional and hard working. We both made tons of money during marriage, joined resources in child raising and building up wealth. Neither of us lost wealth after divorce: each had it multiplied many times over what our individual NW was prior to marriage. I dont have "multiple kids" still at home. I'm an empty nester with one child. I don't date men with more than one child either, and their child should be over 13 years of age. Don't date those who wouldn't want to co-habilite or remarry in a long term perspective.
You don't don't want a relationship, period. Others want it.

If you ended up divorced, you absolutely did not select wisely. Your post is delusional.

Each of us entered marriage with massive student loans and zero NW. We exited it with a grown up successful child, and several businesses. I selected wisely, it's just you cannot control other people feelings, past traumas, the changes they go through in middle age. You cannot buy an insurance policy on marriage, but you can marry well and happily many times over.

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Anonymous wrote:I have spent thirty years taking care of everyone's needs except my own. I have zero interest in taking on more.

Say it again sister! Done!

Yes! I want to be able to do whatever the heck I want.

This! The only people I am willing to help and support are my grandchildren one day, maybe, if I have any. And my pet. I’ve done enough for others for a lifetime and I’m not yet 50.

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Anonymous wrote:Something wrong with all you single people. You won’t remarry because you aren’t the marrying type in the first place and are all bitter.

Yea, a great constellation of opportunistic users on this thread with zero morals or attachments

Maybe if men want women to have “morals and attachments” and marry them, they should step up and contribute more to relationships. The stark difference between male and female interest in dating & remarriage indicates men are doing something pretty wrong collectively. Once we no longer need men to provide children or money, the equation shifts. There’s nothing immoral about it.

Maybe you’re the problem with playing victim.

ha you wish. it really bothers you that older women don’t want to get married.

“I don’t want to get married again I’m tired of taking care of useless manbabies” is pure cope from women who are old and unattractive and thus men aren’t interested in marrying them.

It's the opposite. Women who are the most attractive and independently wealthy are the least likely to want remarriage. And so what? Plenty of women want marriage or remarriage, so date them if that's your goal. No need to get testy on here.

True. And the only woman I know who did remarry ended up with a real albatross. I see literally zero role models for remarriage in my life, but many very content older single women.

Maybe you don't travel enough? I see happy elderly couples on their second or third marriages happily traveling together all over the world all the time on my international vacations. They don't think their kids won't get enough; each of them is self-sufficient and has own pensions, assets etc but it didn't prevent them from committing and marriage. Yes, in most cases one of the spouses doesn't have kids and makes the second spouse a "beloved baby" they take care of, or each of them only has one child. Never saw happily married elderly couples (e.g. over 70 yo) in blended families situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I have spent thirty years taking care of everyone's needs except my own. I have zero interest in taking on more.

Say it again sister! Done!

Yes! I want to be able to do whatever the heck I want.

This! The only people I am willing to help and support are my grandchildren one day, maybe, if I have any. And my pet. I’ve done enough for others for a lifetime and I’m not yet 50.

You just don't have mental space and time for a relationship, and therefore don't want to marry

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Anonymous wrote:I can't see any benefits to remarriage for me at this life stage. Older people who seem most keen on remarriage are typically religious, looking for financial gain, or wealthy men who have fallen for a younger woman and want to have a family together. None of those things apply. My life is full, and while dating and companionship are appealing, marriage is not. I can't conceive of changing my mind on this point.

Don't project your mean spirited thinking at others. I'm a wealthy woman, but I do want to remarry in my 40s or 50s. Reasons are not to seek financial gain, but to build a life, plan retirement, medical care, travel together with a partner. Support each other in bad and good. I still believe that is possible. Of course you can do some of that with a boyfriend, but not being married makes long term planning harder. And I also have a good lawyer who can draft a prenup, and wouldn't marry until after at least 3 years of co-habilitation. I believe marriage is a great tool to raise kids but can also serve as a good middle age planning for the mutual well-being, if the partner is right.

I'm the PP. I admit life has made me cynical about second marriages, but not mean-spirited. Your post suggests a fourth category - a hopeless romantic. Reading and life suggests if either person has children, second marriages are not good for mutual well-being, as they bring conflicting loyalties and priorities.

I'm not a hopeless romantic. Marriage is a totally practical institute, and I had a long and rather successful first marriage. Yes, we both made mistakes but I selected my first husband wisely: we were both driven, professional and hard working. We both made tons of money during marriage, joined resources in child raising and building up wealth. Neither of us lost wealth after divorce: each had it multiplied many times over what our individual NW was prior to marriage. I dont have "multiple kids" still at home. I'm an empty nester with one child. I don't date men with more than one child either, and their child should be over 13 years of age. Don't date those who wouldn't want to co-habilite or remarry in a long term perspective.
You don't don't want a relationship, period. Others want it.

If you ended up divorced, you absolutely did not select wisely. Your post is delusional.

Each of us entered marriage with massive student loans and zero NW. We exited it with a grown up successful child, and several businesses. I selected wisely, it's just you cannot control other people feelings, past traumas, the changes they go through in middle age. You cannot buy an insurance policy on marriage, but you can marry well and happily many times over.

um ok, good luck to you!

did you cheat on your spouse? you arw weirdly narcissistic about this given your failed marriage.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't see any benefits to remarriage for me at this life stage. Older people who seem most keen on remarriage are typically religious, looking for financial gain, or wealthy men who have fallen for a younger woman and want to have a family together. None of those things apply. My life is full, and while dating and companionship are appealing, marriage is not. I can't conceive of changing my mind on this point.

Don't project your mean spirited thinking at others. I'm a wealthy woman, but I do want to remarry in my 40s or 50s. Reasons are not to seek financial gain, but to build a life, plan retirement, medical care, travel together with a partner. Support each other in bad and good. I still believe that is possible. Of course you can do some of that with a boyfriend, but not being married makes long term planning harder. And I also have a good lawyer who can draft a prenup, and wouldn't marry until after at least 3 years of co-habilitation. I believe marriage is a great tool to raise kids but can also serve as a good middle age planning for the mutual well-being, if the partner is right.

I'm the PP. I admit life has made me cynical about second marriages, but not mean-spirited. Your post suggests a fourth category - a hopeless romantic. Reading and life suggests if either person has children, second marriages are not good for mutual well-being, as they bring conflicting loyalties and priorities.

I'm not a hopeless romantic. Marriage is a totally practical institute, and I had a long and rather successful first marriage. Yes, we both made mistakes but I selected my first husband wisely: we were both driven, professional and hard working. We both made tons of money during marriage, joined resources in child raising and building up wealth. Neither of us lost wealth after divorce: each had it multiplied many times over what our individual NW was prior to marriage. I dont have "multiple kids" still at home. I'm an empty nester with one child. I don't date men with more than one child either, and their child should be over 13 years of age. Don't date those who wouldn't want to co-habilite or remarry in a long term perspective.
You don't don't want a relationship, period. Others want it.

Not wanting to remarry is not the same as not wanting relationships.

RelationshipS in plural is the general common denominator for the PP commenters above, men and women. They are totally discouraged in committing and either just want switch partners every 2-3 years. This has nothing to do with building a life with someone, or joint future. They just want zero entanglements and an easy exit. Maybe for some it's tempting but for me to be happy I need to be the center of his universe and other way around.
And I have zero desire to date in my mid 50s looking for a new BF every 3 years. Seems too complicated and takes the lifetime from other important goals and people in my life, all that OLD dating.

I don't date men with multiple children (even college age), as I could see from these photos that kids are the center of their universe and I will always be secondary. I'm mid 40s, but I meet a lot of single never married slightly younger men, or men with one child who still want to commit. Of course if a guy has that many kids the women's role in his life would be limited to FWB (e.g. meeting on demand whenever he's available for a nice date followed by sex, maybe travel sometimes).

I want to have make a home with someone who I love in my space at some point (and no, he wouldn't need to buy it for me, I'm totally fine to equally contribute). I probably wouldn't marry outright, but would own a home with long term partner as a first step, and to see if we are able to coexist and enjoy it.

Man, the bolded makes be deeply pity those poor singleton kids of the men you date. What a nightmare!

Why? My parents are still married, and my adult siblings and I are not the center of their universe. My parents are in the more selfish phase of their retirement, as they are still healthy enough to enjoy sports and heavy traveling. We see them for holidays, plus maybe an additional week a year, and they check in on grandkids regularly, but we're not the center of their universe. I'm happy they're happy and living their lives while they can.

Finally a person with healthy attitude. These crazy dads whose only vacation is with his daughters who are themselves in their late 20s is just sick. This tells me he wasn't able to rebuild his life, is bitter after divorce and his daughters are not able to build healthy relationships either. My 17yo is more independent than that and would hate me even doing college visits with them, leaving alone going for a multi-weeks vacation overseas. They have own life.