What makes a family give lunchables for lunch every day?

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Anonymous wrote:The evidence of the unhealthy effects of ultra processed foods is overwhelming at this point.

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2024/feb/28/ultra-processed-food-32-harmful-effects-health-review

I work with kids in before/after school program and have worked with them in schools as well. The school lunch programs in most places are shameful - very different from when I was a kid in the 70s and lunch ladies cooked us actual food in an actual kitchen. Now the schools are all heating up prepackaged ultra processed foods, much of it branded to make little kids into future consumers. And most schools have contracts for soda machines in the lunchroom and around campus too.

But the kids who bring packed lunches and snacks and breakfast to my program are bringing what the parents choose, and much of what I see is sickening. Ultra processed junk, Dunkin’ Donuts for breakfast, candy and chips and fizzy drinks galore.

Do you not understand that this manufactured food substitute does not actually feed your child’s gut or brain? That this crap is what is making them hyperactive, unfocused, mentally ill? There are volumes of books and articles by actual scientists which proves that this garbage junk which isn’t food is poisoning people’s bodies and minds.

It’s one thing for you to choose this for yourself, but it is unconscionable to teach such habits to innocent, defenseless children who trust you and don’t know better. Why did you bother to have them if you were just going to set them up for failure and lifelong disease?

Eating 50g of cured meats daily increases the risk of colon cancer by 18%. Keep shoveling those lunchables - under whatever brand name you choose - down your kid’s throat because it’s too much parenting to feed them healthy and insist that they eat what you feed them.

A very small number of kids have actual developmental disorders that affect their eating habits in very negative ways.

The vast majority of kids are capable of eating healthy foods, but have conditioned their parents who are weak and lazy to give them whatever junk they demand.


And yet I’m sure you’re one of those people who thinks nothing of putting a child on a bike on a busy city street so maybe you’re not great at assessing risk?


+1

It’s always the self-assured righteous who “get blindsided”

Can’t help but roll my eyes at “18% higher”. Like okay, you feed your kids food they hate that tastes awful and have them develop eating disorders once they’re able to freely choose their own diet because you’re afraid of them having an 18% higher chance of colon cancer when they’re 60.
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Anonymous wrote:IDGAF if someone packs Cheetos and a 20oz coke every day for their kid.

How does this affect you OP? Get a life.


It very much affects us all. There is an epidemic of type 2 diabetes, etc that is bankrupting our country and causing tremendous suffering - all because companies want to profit by poisoning us with lab designed processed “food” like lunchables.


This is such a tired trope. Instead of using shame of the individual (proven to have zero effectiveness in changing behavior) why don't you lobby to get real change at a regulation level? Food companies do not care about our health because they like profits. They have to be forced to take out harmful ingredients and balance sodium. Lobby your leaders. Shaming the consumer will do absolutely nothing.


Why should food companies care more about your health (or yours kids’) than you? People need to take responsibility for what they are choosing to eat


Totally agree. We should also get rid of warning labels on cigarettes and alcohol. Let's just completely do away with the FDA.


Hopefully you’re not packing ciggies and nips in your kid’s lunch box.
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Anonymous wrote:My parents let me have every kind of junk food imaginable when I was a kid. As an adult, I barely eat anything junky. I joke that it's because I was "sugared out" by the time I hit 18, but really, it was more that once I could make better choices for myself, I made them.


The 70s were all canned food and 80s and 90s about junk foods. 90s saw more emphasis on fresh foods thanks to California Cuisine, but we’ve got a ways to go.


Also, I don’t know how organic fresh vegetables became linked with rich white people. Small scale farmers and home plots were how poor folks got by and fed their families. Everyone should be eating fresh produce!


It’s tougher in the city or suburbs. Supermarkets carry both organic and non organic produce. They look the exact same but organic is much more expensive.


This is hilarious. Poor people, rich people, all people have largely moved away from cooking their own foods, let alone the work of growing food and gardening. It’s packaged crap and fast food. 9/10, even on limited income, if given a choice between rolling through the McD drive-thru and getting the 2/$3 McMuffins or making a real bowl of oatmeal ($3 for an entire canister of 30 servings), McD will be the choice.


Well yeah, oatmeal is quick and easy but DISGUSTING. I used to literally have to force myself to eat flavoured oatmeal in the morning. I’d much rather had a muffin with sausage, egg, and cheese. Regardless of if it was homemade or mcdonalds. But whereas at home its going to take 20+ minutes to make, it will take 5 minutes AT MOST at mcdonalds.

Tastier and faster is going to win any day of the week for 90% of households.


I think oatmeal is delicious. Your opinion is not fact.
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Anonymous wrote:My parents let me have every kind of junk food imaginable when I was a kid. As an adult, I barely eat anything junky. I joke that it's because I was "sugared out" by the time I hit 18, but really, it was more that once I could make better choices for myself, I made them.


The 70s were all canned food and 80s and 90s about junk foods. 90s saw more emphasis on fresh foods thanks to California Cuisine, but we’ve got a ways to go.


Also, I don’t know how organic fresh vegetables became linked with rich white people. Small scale farmers and home plots were how poor folks got by and fed their families. Everyone should be eating fresh produce!


It’s tougher in the city or suburbs. Supermarkets carry both organic and non organic produce. They look the exact same but organic is much more expensive.


This is hilarious. Poor people, rich people, all people have largely moved away from cooking their own foods, let alone the work of growing food and gardening. It’s packaged crap and fast food. 9/10, even on limited income, if given a choice between rolling through the McD drive-thru and getting the 2/$3 McMuffins or making a real bowl of oatmeal ($3 for an entire canister of 30 servings), McD will be the choice.


Well yeah, oatmeal is quick and easy but DISGUSTING. I used to literally have to force myself to eat flavoured oatmeal in the morning. I’d much rather had a muffin with sausage, egg, and cheese. Regardless of if it was homemade or mcdonalds. But whereas at home its going to take 20+ minutes to make, it will take 5 minutes AT MOST at mcdonalds.

Tastier and faster is going to win any day of the week for 90% of households.


Oatmeal takes less than 5 min to make. You prefer eating easy garbage food over healthy food, I get it. So do a lot a people, probably most at this point. But it isn’t a cost that is prohibiting people from eating healthier. It is now a preference.
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Anonymous wrote:In OP’s mind, Lunchables are for a certain class of people. OP is perturbed because the Lunchable parents aren’t acting how she expects them to act based on their socioeconomic status. Bless her heart, she probably aspires to their status and here they are spoiling it with Lunchables.


What's funny about this is the fact that Lunchables are expensive. So are Uncrustables. (I'm not against either one; my kid loves Uncrustables, so do I)


Humans have hit an all time high laziness. BP&J is the world’s easiest sandwich to make. But no. Let’s buy overpriced frozen ones in a box- I’m just too busy on DCUM for sandwich making


I have no doubt an Uncrustable is 100x more tasty than the PB&J I make with no-sugar whole grain bread, no-sugar almond butter and low-sugar jelly. Luckily the only version my kids know is my version so they are used to it.

We send to private school so we control when they can buy lunch, and leftovers are brought back in the lunchbox, not thrown out.



Curious which brands/products of bread, pb, and jelly you use at home. Would be interested in some healthier options.


Not the PP, but I use homemade oat bread (recipe on King Arthur), Trader Joe’s natural organic peanut butter, and bonne manan fruit spread (1/3 less sugar).

I think bread is fine to buy too , but get from a local bakery that uses quality ingredients, not grocery store.


I love the “quality ingredients” people. Flour is flour. But yup, yours is WAY BeTTER


No, actually it is not. Grocery store bread uses flour that has been enriched, bleached, and bromated plus a whole laundry list of ingredients such as preservatives, dough and texture enhancers, gums, corn syrup, cheap oil.

Bread should have: flour (unbleached and not bromated), water, yeast, salt. Sometimes milk, honey, or other grains depending on type. That is it.


The only evidence I can find of bleached flour being “bad” are from junk health websites. Can you point me to the actual research that shows the harms of bleached flour?
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Anonymous wrote:My parents let me have every kind of junk food imaginable when I was a kid. As an adult, I barely eat anything junky. I joke that it's because I was "sugared out" by the time I hit 18, but really, it was more that once I could make better choices for myself, I made them.


The 70s were all canned food and 80s and 90s about junk foods. 90s saw more emphasis on fresh foods thanks to California Cuisine, but we’ve got a ways to go.


Also, I don’t know how organic fresh vegetables became linked with rich white people. Small scale farmers and home plots were how poor folks got by and fed their families. Everyone should be eating fresh produce!


It’s tougher in the city or suburbs. Supermarkets carry both organic and non organic produce. They look the exact same but organic is much more expensive.


This is hilarious. Poor people, rich people, all people have largely moved away from cooking their own foods, let alone the work of growing food and gardening. It’s packaged crap and fast food. 9/10, even on limited income, if given a choice between rolling through the McD drive-thru and getting the 2/$3 McMuffins or making a real bowl of oatmeal ($3 for an entire canister of 30 servings), McD will be the choice.


Well yeah, oatmeal is quick and easy but DISGUSTING. I used to literally have to force myself to eat flavoured oatmeal in the morning. I’d much rather had a muffin with sausage, egg, and cheese. Regardless of if it was homemade or mcdonalds. But whereas at home its going to take 20+ minutes to make, it will take 5 minutes AT MOST at mcdonalds.

Tastier and faster is going to win any day of the week for 90% of households.


I think oatmeal is delicious. Your opinion is not fact.


An egg, sausage and cheese sandwich also doesn’t take 20+ minutes to make, unless you’re including making the sausage from scratch in that time.
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Anonymous wrote:My parents let me have every kind of junk food imaginable when I was a kid. As an adult, I barely eat anything junky. I joke that it's because I was "sugared out" by the time I hit 18, but really, it was more that once I could make better choices for myself, I made them.


The 70s were all canned food and 80s and 90s about junk foods. 90s saw more emphasis on fresh foods thanks to California Cuisine, but we’ve got a ways to go.


Also, I don’t know how organic fresh vegetables became linked with rich white people. Small scale farmers and home plots were how poor folks got by and fed their families. Everyone should be eating fresh produce!


It’s tougher in the city or suburbs. Supermarkets carry both organic and non organic produce. They look the exact same but organic is much more expensive.


This is hilarious. Poor people, rich people, all people have largely moved away from cooking their own foods, let alone the work of growing food and gardening. It’s packaged crap and fast food. 9/10, even on limited income, if given a choice between rolling through the McD drive-thru and getting the 2/$3 McMuffins or making a real bowl of oatmeal ($3 for an entire canister of 30 servings), McD will be the choice.


Well yeah, oatmeal is quick and easy but DISGUSTING. I used to literally have to force myself to eat flavoured oatmeal in the morning. I’d much rather had a muffin with sausage, egg, and cheese. Regardless of if it was homemade or mcdonalds. But whereas at home its going to take 20+ minutes to make, it will take 5 minutes AT MOST at mcdonalds.

Tastier and faster is going to win any day of the week for 90% of households.


I think oatmeal is delicious. Your opinion is not fact.


An egg, sausage and cheese sandwich also doesn’t take 20+ minutes to make, unless you’re including making the sausage from scratch in that time.


True…

People are seriously just lazy now and want to do as little work as humanly possible.
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Anonymous wrote:My parents let me have every kind of junk food imaginable when I was a kid. As an adult, I barely eat anything junky. I joke that it's because I was "sugared out" by the time I hit 18, but really, it was more that once I could make better choices for myself, I made them.


The 70s were all canned food and 80s and 90s about junk foods. 90s saw more emphasis on fresh foods thanks to California Cuisine, but we’ve got a ways to go.


Also, I don’t know how organic fresh vegetables became linked with rich white people. Small scale farmers and home plots were how poor folks got by and fed their families. Everyone should be eating fresh produce!


It’s tougher in the city or suburbs. Supermarkets carry both organic and non organic produce. They look the exact same but organic is much more expensive.


This is hilarious. Poor people, rich people, all people have largely moved away from cooking their own foods, let alone the work of growing food and gardening. It’s packaged crap and fast food. 9/10, even on limited income, if given a choice between rolling through the McD drive-thru and getting the 2/$3 McMuffins or making a real bowl of oatmeal ($3 for an entire canister of 30 servings), McD will be the choice.


Well yeah, oatmeal is quick and easy but DISGUSTING. I used to literally have to force myself to eat flavoured oatmeal in the morning. I’d much rather had a muffin with sausage, egg, and cheese. Regardless of if it was homemade or mcdonalds. But whereas at home its going to take 20+ minutes to make, it will take 5 minutes AT MOST at mcdonalds.

Tastier and faster is going to win any day of the week for 90% of households.


I think oatmeal is delicious. Your opinion is not fact.


An egg, sausage and cheese sandwich also doesn’t take 20+ minutes to make, unless you’re including making the sausage from scratch in that time.


True…

People are seriously just lazy now and want to do as little work as humanly possible.


That’s me. I’m seriously lazy. I’ll do anything to make my life easier. I do overnight oats so I don’t have to cook in the morning. Love me some instant pot and sheet pan meals. My husband grills a ton with is super easy too.

Putting in tons of effort doesn’t necessarily make one a better parent.
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Oatmeal is like the most delicious breakfast for me! Old fashioned one, cooked with half milk and half water, add roasted slivered almonds, brown sugar, fresh or frozen berries. Heaven!
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Anonymous wrote:My parents let me have every kind of junk food imaginable when I was a kid. As an adult, I barely eat anything junky. I joke that it's because I was "sugared out" by the time I hit 18, but really, it was more that once I could make better choices for myself, I made them.


The 70s were all canned food and 80s and 90s about junk foods. 90s saw more emphasis on fresh foods thanks to California Cuisine, but we’ve got a ways to go.


Also, I don’t know how organic fresh vegetables became linked with rich white people. Small scale farmers and home plots were how poor folks got by and fed their families. Everyone should be eating fresh produce!


It’s tougher in the city or suburbs. Supermarkets carry both organic and non organic produce. They look the exact same but organic is much more expensive.


This is hilarious. Poor people, rich people, all people have largely moved away from cooking their own foods, let alone the work of growing food and gardening. It’s packaged crap and fast food. 9/10, even on limited income, if given a choice between rolling through the McD drive-thru and getting the 2/$3 McMuffins or making a real bowl of oatmeal ($3 for an entire canister of 30 servings), McD will be the choice.


Well yeah, oatmeal is quick and easy but DISGUSTING. I used to literally have to force myself to eat flavoured oatmeal in the morning. I’d much rather had a muffin with sausage, egg, and cheese. Regardless of if it was homemade or mcdonalds. But whereas at home its going to take 20+ minutes to make, it will take 5 minutes AT MOST at mcdonalds.

Tastier and faster is going to win any day of the week for 90% of households.


I think oatmeal is delicious. Your opinion is not fact.


An egg, sausage and cheese sandwich also doesn’t take 20+ minutes to make, unless you’re including making the sausage from scratch in that time.


True…

People are seriously just lazy now and want to do as little work as humanly possible.


That’s me. I’m seriously lazy. I’ll do anything to make my life easier. I do overnight oats so I don’t have to cook in the morning. Love me some instant pot and sheet pan meals. My husband grills a ton with is super easy too.

Putting in tons of effort doesn’t necessarily make one a better parent.



You are still cooking, not lazy. You cook be using lunchables, uncrustables, and Uber eats- that is lazy
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Anonymous wrote:The evidence of the unhealthy effects of ultra processed foods is overwhelming at this point.

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2024/feb/28/ultra-processed-food-32-harmful-effects-health-review

I work with kids in before/after school program and have worked with them in schools as well. The school lunch programs in most places are shameful - very different from when I was a kid in the 70s and lunch ladies cooked us actual food in an actual kitchen. Now the schools are all heating up prepackaged ultra processed foods, much of it branded to make little kids into future consumers. And most schools have contracts for soda machines in the lunchroom and around campus too.

But the kids who bring packed lunches and snacks and breakfast to my program are bringing what the parents choose, and much of what I see is sickening. Ultra processed junk, Dunkin’ Donuts for breakfast, candy and chips and fizzy drinks galore.

Do you not understand that this manufactured food substitute does not actually feed your child’s gut or brain? That this crap is what is making them hyperactive, unfocused, mentally ill? There are volumes of books and articles by actual scientists which proves that this garbage junk which isn’t food is poisoning people’s bodies and minds.

It’s one thing for you to choose this for yourself, but it is unconscionable to teach such habits to innocent, defenseless children who trust you and don’t know better. Why did you bother to have them if you were just going to set them up for failure and lifelong disease?

Eating 50g of cured meats daily increases the risk of colon cancer by 18%. Keep shoveling those lunchables - under whatever brand name you choose - down your kid’s throat because it’s too much parenting to feed them healthy and insist that they eat what you feed them.

A very small number of kids have actual developmental disorders that affect their eating habits in very negative ways.

The vast majority of kids are capable of eating healthy foods, but have conditioned their parents who are weak and lazy to give them whatever junk they demand.


And yet I’m sure you’re one of those people who thinks nothing of putting a child on a bike on a busy city street so maybe you’re not great at assessing risk?


Not the PP but… is this bizarre and irrelevant attack indicative of the intelligence of the Lunchables crowd?
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Anonymous wrote:My parents let me have every kind of junk food imaginable when I was a kid. As an adult, I barely eat anything junky. I joke that it's because I was "sugared out" by the time I hit 18, but really, it was more that once I could make better choices for myself, I made them.


The 70s were all canned food and 80s and 90s about junk foods. 90s saw more emphasis on fresh foods thanks to California Cuisine, but we’ve got a ways to go.


Also, I don’t know how organic fresh vegetables became linked with rich white people. Small scale farmers and home plots were how poor folks got by and fed their families. Everyone should be eating fresh produce!


It’s tougher in the city or suburbs. Supermarkets carry both organic and non organic produce. They look the exact same but organic is much more expensive.


This is hilarious. Poor people, rich people, all people have largely moved away from cooking their own foods, let alone the work of growing food and gardening. It’s packaged crap and fast food. 9/10, even on limited income, if given a choice between rolling through the McD drive-thru and getting the 2/$3 McMuffins or making a real bowl of oatmeal ($3 for an entire canister of 30 servings), McD will be the choice.


Well yeah, oatmeal is quick and easy but DISGUSTING. I used to literally have to force myself to eat flavoured oatmeal in the morning. I’d much rather had a muffin with sausage, egg, and cheese. Regardless of if it was homemade or mcdonalds. But whereas at home its going to take 20+ minutes to make, it will take 5 minutes AT MOST at mcdonalds.

Tastier and faster is going to win any day of the week for 90% of households.


I think oatmeal is delicious. Your opinion is not fact.


An egg, sausage and cheese sandwich also doesn’t take 20+ minutes to make, unless you’re including making the sausage from scratch in that time.


True…

People are seriously just lazy now and want to do as little work as humanly possible.


That’s me. I’m seriously lazy. I’ll do anything to make my life easier. I do overnight oats so I don’t have to cook in the morning. Love me some instant pot and sheet pan meals. My husband grills a ton with is super easy too.

Putting in tons of effort doesn’t necessarily make one a better parent.


What a dumb thing to say. It is not “lazy” to shop for ingredients and take the time to prepare them. Using time-saving conveniences like Instacart, instapot does not make you “lazy” because you have at least met the bare minimum of at-home healthful cooking. No one expects parents, especially working parents to serve up three-hour three-course meals.
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What’s the diff bt a lunchable and a sandwich made out of the same lunch meat and cheese?
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I ate a lunchable almost every school day growing up. I think I loved them and insisted on them. Maybe those kids are the same. Who cares?
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