Looks like a new Gaza war has started

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Also the reason why the West Bank doesn’t allow elections is they know Hamas will win. Anyways abbas defended the terrorist attacks


Yes,

Think of Hamas as the govt of Mexico. Hamas is the leadership of Gaza and this retrospect attack is basically a sign of war. This is not a small terrorist group inside a peaceful Gaza carrying out these attacks. It’s the Gaza govt!

If a drug cartel went into the US and massacred 100 Americans, the hs would go after the drug cartel to get revenge and not go after the Mexican president.

This about is the Mexican Military invaded the US border, killed innocent residents of Arizona, took hostages. You bet the US would declare was in Mexico!



No not even close. The Palestinians have no military. This is all a result of Israel’s policies. Israel controls the whole region.


No. This is the result of terrorists funded by other terrorists doing what terrorists do.
Take them all out. Iran needs to be held accountable too.
This is totally unprovoked.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Is our reaction to this supposed to be different from reaction to Ukraine war?


Yes we need to defund Israel now! Hamas(and Russia) has the right to take back territory.

Didn’t Obama set a limit on the funds for Israel? If I understood it correctly, the aid cannot be increased or decreased

Either way, budget has been decided on.
It is up to Israel how much they want escalate this. Pushing so many people into Gaza just because they have a different ethnicity and religion was a mistake and unsustainable in the long run. Israel has failed to be a more peaceful neighbor and has used the occasional tension to garner sympathy and funds. What they should have focused on is a more sustainable long term solution, which they were not interested in


Where on earth did you get your information from? Israel didn't push anyone into Gaza. Peaceful neighbor? That is the pot calling the kettle black. You think that Hamas is peaceful? What a perverted take you have.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is convenient that these things happen right as Netanyahu's hold on Israel wanes.


I don't think much of Netanyahu, but even I don't think he's craven enough to attack his own fellow Jewish citizens. But leaving that aside, this was a massive, coordinated attack.

The question is how and why did the security forces under Netanyahu fail to predict or prevent any part of this attack.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also the reason why the West Bank doesn’t allow elections is they know Hamas will win. Anyways abbas defended the terrorist attacks


Yes,

Think of Hamas as the govt of Mexico. Hamas is the leadership of Gaza and this retrospect attack is basically a sign of war. This is not a small terrorist group inside a peaceful Gaza carrying out these attacks. It’s the Gaza govt!

If a drug cartel went into the US and massacred 100 Americans, the hs would go after the drug cartel to get revenge and not go after the Mexican president.

This about is the Mexican Military invaded the US border, killed innocent residents of Arizona, took hostages. You bet the US would declare was in Mexico!



No not even close. The Palestinians have no military. This is all a result of Israel’s policies. Israel controls the whole region.



Hamas controls Gaza
Fatah controls WB


All attacks from Hamas. None from the generally peaceful Fatah.

Hamas gets weapons from Iran. They have access to the sea, so they can be smuggled.

Also, how does Hamas have RPG’s and drones able to destroy Israeli tanks? You gotta know they got them from someone else? So yes, they have some advanced weapons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also the reason why the West Bank doesn’t allow elections is they know Hamas will win. Anyways abbas defended the terrorist attacks


Yes,

Think of Hamas as the govt of Mexico. Hamas is the leadership of Gaza and this retrospect attack is basically a sign of war. This is not a small terrorist group inside a peaceful Gaza carrying out these attacks. It’s the Gaza govt!

If a drug cartel went into the US and massacred 100 Americans, the hs would go after the drug cartel to get revenge and not go after the Mexican president.

This about is the Mexican Military invaded the US border, killed innocent residents of Arizona, took hostages. You bet the US would declare was in Mexico!



No not even close. The Palestinians have no military. This is all a result of Israel’s policies. Israel controls the whole region.


This is a result of Hamas and Iranian policies. Period.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu will never choose peace, he hates Arabs as much as they hate Jews. Hamas knows it can't win full scale battle but they just don't want SA to go over to Israel. So they war. War is ugly and innocent lives are taken in every war. There's no it's sad and it's awful it's what war is, once that is declared everyone gets hurt until one side can't fight anymore. So let's see what SA does. Without their support, it will be quick but with SA on board, back to bloodshed. I condemn it but I understand that it's Arabs leverage in giving Palestine a chance. Let's face it Netanyahu hates them and would never try to make anything better - he's as bad as Hamas really.


It is important to point out that this was started by Hamas.
Killing innocent people and parading them around like trophies. They are savages. Maybe there is a reason they are disliked.

And, don't try to "both sides" this.


This nonsense both side do it. This is why we should pull out now. Israel keeps building settlements while enforcing an apartheid state. Money given to Israel and Egypt should be spend in the US not so pipe dream of never ending war.



The Palestinian children and innocents have nowhere to go and are the first victims in all these conflicts. Israelis have much better technology to protect themselves, and of course it’s horrific they’d be taken hostage and murdered. But again, for decades and decades, generations of Palestinians have had nothing productive to do because of the Israeli chokehold over their economic freedom.

It’s depressing that the world cannot see that when you drive a people to despair, they will self-sabotage and hurt others like this. Israel should never have encroached on Palestinian lands in the first place.

In this conflict, YES, there are major flaws on both sides. And the US, and other Arab states and Russia, are also responsible for funding “their” side, which only encourages violence.

For decades this has been another one of these proxy wars waged by the US against economic and ideological opponents: Russia and oil rich Arab states.

And populations suffer.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu will never choose peace, he hates Arabs as much as they hate Jews. Hamas knows it can't win full scale battle but they just don't want SA to go over to Israel. So they war. War is ugly and innocent lives are taken in every war. There's no it's sad and it's awful it's what war is, once that is declared everyone gets hurt until one side can't fight anymore. So let's see what SA does. Without their support, it will be quick but with SA on board, back to bloodshed. I condemn it but I understand that it's Arabs leverage in giving Palestine a chance. Let's face it Netanyahu hates them and would never try to make anything better - he's as bad as Hamas really.


It is important to point out that this was started by Hamas.
Killing innocent people and parading them around like trophies. They are savages. Maybe there is a reason they are disliked.

And, don't try to "both sides" this.


This nonsense both side do it. This is why we should pull out now. Israel keeps building settlements while enforcing an apartheid state. Money given to Israel and Egypt should be spend in the US not so pipe dream of never ending war.



The Palestinian children and innocents have nowhere to go and are the first victims in all these conflicts. Israelis have much better technology to protect themselves, and of course it’s horrific they’d be taken hostage and murdered. But again, for decades and decades, generations of Palestinians have had nothing productive to do because of the Israeli chokehold over their economic freedom.

It’s depressing that the world cannot see that when you drive a people to despair, they will self-sabotage and hurt others like this. Israel should never have encroached on Palestinian lands in the first place.

In this conflict, YES, there are major flaws on both sides. And the US, and other Arab states and Russia, are also responsible for funding “their” side, which only encourages violence.

For decades this has been another one of these proxy wars waged by the US against economic and ideological opponents: Russia and oil rich Arab states.

And populations suffer.




"Israel should never have encroached on Palestinian lands in the first place." What Palestinian lands are you talking about? Jews were Palestinians too at one time. You do realize that don't you?
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Killing Palestinians will deescalate this. Somehow.


So yo I allow them to keep the hostages?

Maybe ask “pretty please” let them go.

Geez. You kill terrorists.


Doesn't Israel have the best military and the best special forces in the world? Why couldn't they save the hostages and also capture the Palestinians instead of kill them? Geez.


Terrorists don’t give up. They fight to the death.

That’s terrorism 101.

#duh


Wait, what's the difference between Hamas and the Israelis if they both fight to the death? Aren't the Ukrainians fighting to the death right now?

Maybe your definition isn't right...


Terrorists don’t drop their weapons and wave the white flag. They crash planes into buildings, steal bombs to their chests, and kill innocent civilians.

Plenty of Russian “soldiers” conscripted against their will to fight an unprovoked war they do not support…which is why Russians have willingly surrendered (google the videos). The Ukrainians don’t slaughter those who surrender (google the videos). And that’s the difference between civilized warfare and pure terrorism.


There is no difference between Israel and Hamas. None. Killing civilians with artillery, a drone, a bomb to your chest, a Japanese kamikaze, etc is the same. People are killed and more people pick up the banner.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu will never choose peace, he hates Arabs as much as they hate Jews. Hamas knows it can't win full scale battle but they just don't want SA to go over to Israel. So they war. War is ugly and innocent lives are taken in every war. There's no it's sad and it's awful it's what war is, once that is declared everyone gets hurt until one side can't fight anymore. So let's see what SA does. Without their support, it will be quick but with SA on board, back to bloodshed. I condemn it but I understand that it's Arabs leverage in giving Palestine a chance. Let's face it Netanyahu hates them and would never try to make anything better - he's as bad as Hamas really.


It is important to point out that this was started by Hamas.
Killing innocent people and parading them around like trophies. They are savages. Maybe there is a reason they are disliked.

And, don't try to "both sides" this.


This nonsense both side do it. This is why we should pull out now. Israel keeps building settlements while enforcing an apartheid state. Money given to Israel and Egypt should be spend in the US not so pipe dream of never ending war.



The Palestinian children and innocents have nowhere to go and are the first victims in all these conflicts. Israelis have much better technology to protect themselves, and of course it’s horrific they’d be taken hostage and murdered. But again, for decades and decades, generations of Palestinians have had nothing productive to do because of the Israeli chokehold over their economic freedom.

It’s depressing that the world cannot see that when you drive a people to despair, they will self-sabotage and hurt others like this. Israel should never have encroached on Palestinian lands in the first place.

In this conflict, YES, there are major flaws on both sides. And the US, and other Arab states and Russia, are also responsible for funding “their” side, which only encourages violence.

For decades this has been another one of these proxy wars waged by the US against economic and ideological opponents: Russia and oil rich Arab states.

And populations suffer.




Maybe the Hamas fighter should have thought that if, hey maybe we should not go over to Israel and kill like 100 civilians, and fire 2000 rockets. Cuz, if we do, we know there will be an attack on us and many of our kids and women will be killed too!

But nope, they did not care. So it’s on the Hamas fighters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu will never choose peace, he hates Arabs as much as they hate Jews. Hamas knows it can't win full scale battle but they just don't want SA to go over to Israel. So they war. War is ugly and innocent lives are taken in every war. There's no it's sad and it's awful it's what war is, once that is declared everyone gets hurt until one side can't fight anymore. So let's see what SA does. Without their support, it will be quick but with SA on board, back to bloodshed. I condemn it but I understand that it's Arabs leverage in giving Palestine a chance. Let's face it Netanyahu hates them and would never try to make anything better - he's as bad as Hamas really.


It is important to point out that this was started by Hamas.
Killing innocent people and parading them around like trophies. They are savages. Maybe there is a reason they are disliked.

And, don't try to "both sides" this.


This nonsense both side do it. This is why we should pull out now. Israel keeps building settlements while enforcing an apartheid state. Money given to Israel and Egypt should be spend in the US not so pipe dream of never ending war.



The Palestinian children and innocents have nowhere to go and are the first victims in all these conflicts. Israelis have much better technology to protect themselves, and of course it’s horrific they’d be taken hostage and murdered. But again, for decades and decades, generations of Palestinians have had nothing productive to do because of the Israeli chokehold over their economic freedom.

It’s depressing that the world cannot see that when you drive a people to despair, they will self-sabotage and hurt others like this. Israel should never have encroached on Palestinian lands in the first place.

In this conflict, YES, there are major flaws on both sides. And the US, and other Arab states and Russia, are also responsible for funding “their” side, which only encourages violence.

For decades this has been another one of these proxy wars waged by the US against economic and ideological opponents: Russia and oil rich Arab states.

And populations suffer.




Maybe, just maybe, if the Palestinians weren't led by terrorists............
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also the reason why the West Bank doesn’t allow elections is they know Hamas will win. Anyways abbas defended the terrorist attacks


Yes,

Think of Hamas as the govt of Mexico. Hamas is the leadership of Gaza and this retrospect attack is basically a sign of war. This is not a small terrorist group inside a peaceful Gaza carrying out these attacks. It’s the Gaza govt!

If a drug cartel went into the US and massacred 100 Americans, the hs would go after the drug cartel to get revenge and not go after the Mexican president.

This about is the Mexican Military invaded the US border, killed innocent residents of Arizona, took hostages. You bet the US would declare was in Mexico!



No not even close. The Palestinians have no military. This is all a result of Israel’s policies. Israel controls the whole region.


No. This is the result of terrorists funded by other terrorists doing what terrorists do.
Take them all out. Iran needs to be held accountable too.
This is totally unprovoked.


Don't worry. Israel WILL hold them accountable and tell everyone who whines about it to FOADIAF.

As they should.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu will never choose peace, he hates Arabs as much as they hate Jews. Hamas knows it can't win full scale battle but they just don't want SA to go over to Israel. So they war. War is ugly and innocent lives are taken in every war. There's no it's sad and it's awful it's what war is, once that is declared everyone gets hurt until one side can't fight anymore. So let's see what SA does. Without their support, it will be quick but with SA on board, back to bloodshed. I condemn it but I understand that it's Arabs leverage in giving Palestine a chance. Let's face it Netanyahu hates them and would never try to make anything better - he's as bad as Hamas really.


It is important to point out that this was started by Hamas.
Killing innocent people and parading them around like trophies. They are savages. Maybe there is a reason they are disliked.

And, don't try to "both sides" this.


This nonsense both side do it. This is why we should pull out now. Israel keeps building settlements while enforcing an apartheid state. Money given to Israel and Egypt should be spend in the US not so pipe dream of never ending war.



The Palestinian children and innocents have nowhere to go and are the first victims in all these conflicts. Israelis have much better technology to protect themselves, and of course it’s horrific they’d be taken hostage and murdered. But again, for decades and decades, generations of Palestinians have had nothing productive to do because of the Israeli chokehold over their economic freedom.

It’s depressing that the world cannot see that when you drive a people to despair, they will self-sabotage and hurt others like this. Israel should never have encroached on Palestinian lands in the first place.

In this conflict, YES, there are major flaws on both sides. And the US, and other Arab states and Russia, are also responsible for funding “their” side, which only encourages violence.

For decades this has been another one of these proxy wars waged by the US against economic and ideological opponents: Russia and oil rich Arab states.

And populations suffer.



Israel will win. There’s no “both sides” here.
Israel will win.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu will never choose peace, he hates Arabs as much as they hate Jews. Hamas knows it can't win full scale battle but they just don't want SA to go over to Israel. So they war. War is ugly and innocent lives are taken in every war. There's no it's sad and it's awful it's what war is, once that is declared everyone gets hurt until one side can't fight anymore. So let's see what SA does. Without their support, it will be quick but with SA on board, back to bloodshed. I condemn it but I understand that it's Arabs leverage in giving Palestine a chance. Let's face it Netanyahu hates them and would never try to make anything better - he's as bad as Hamas really.


It is important to point out that this was started by Hamas.
Killing innocent people and parading them around like trophies. They are savages. Maybe there is a reason they are disliked.

And, don't try to "both sides" this.


This nonsense both side do it. This is why we should pull out now. Israel keeps building settlements while enforcing an apartheid state. Money given to Israel and Egypt should be spend in the US not so pipe dream of never ending war.



The Palestinian children and innocents have nowhere to go and are the first victims in all these conflicts. Israelis have much better technology to protect themselves, and of course it’s horrific they’d be taken hostage and murdered. But again, for decades and decades, generations of Palestinians have had nothing productive to do because of the Israeli chokehold over their economic freedom.

It’s depressing that the world cannot see that when you drive a people to despair, they will self-sabotage and hurt others like this. Israel should never have encroached on Palestinian lands in the first place.

In this conflict, YES, there are major flaws on both sides. And the US, and other Arab states and Russia, are also responsible for funding “their” side, which only encourages violence.

For decades this has been another one of these proxy wars waged by the US against economic and ideological opponents: Russia and oil rich Arab states.

And populations suffer.




"Israel should never have encroached on Palestinian lands in the first place." What Palestinian lands are you talking about? Jews were Palestinians too at one time. You do realize that don't you?


You do realize Jews were not the only people or close to the majority of people in Palestine?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Killing Palestinians will deescalate this. Somehow.


So yo I allow them to keep the hostages?

Maybe ask “pretty please” let them go.

Geez. You kill terrorists.


Doesn't Israel have the best military and the best special forces in the world? Why couldn't they save the hostages and also capture the Palestinians instead of kill them? Geez.


Terrorists don’t give up. They fight to the death.

That’s terrorism 101.

#duh


Wait, what's the difference between Hamas and the Israelis if they both fight to the death? Aren't the Ukrainians fighting to the death right now?

Maybe your definition isn't right...


Terrorists don’t drop their weapons and wave the white flag. They crash planes into buildings, steal bombs to their chests, and kill innocent civilians.

Plenty of Russian “soldiers” conscripted against their will to fight an unprovoked war they do not support…which is why Russians have willingly surrendered (google the videos). The Ukrainians don’t slaughter those who surrender (google the videos). And that’s the difference between civilized warfare and pure terrorism.


There is no difference between Israel and Hamas. None. Killing civilians with artillery, a drone, a bomb to your chest, a Japanese kamikaze, etc is the same. People are killed and more people pick up the banner.


What a load of crap. Did Israel fire 2000 bombs into Gaza and kidnap innocent Palestinians and capture a FEMALE soldier, kill her, strip her down and parade her through the streets?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu will never choose peace, he hates Arabs as much as they hate Jews. Hamas knows it can't win full scale battle but they just don't want SA to go over to Israel. So they war. War is ugly and innocent lives are taken in every war. There's no it's sad and it's awful it's what war is, once that is declared everyone gets hurt until one side can't fight anymore. So let's see what SA does. Without their support, it will be quick but with SA on board, back to bloodshed. I condemn it but I understand that it's Arabs leverage in giving Palestine a chance. Let's face it Netanyahu hates them and would never try to make anything better - he's as bad as Hamas really.


It is important to point out that this was started by Hamas.
Killing innocent people and parading them around like trophies. They are savages. Maybe there is a reason they are disliked.

And, don't try to "both sides" this.


This nonsense both side do it. This is why we should pull out now. Israel keeps building settlements while enforcing an apartheid state. Money given to Israel and Egypt should be spend in the US not so pipe dream of never ending war.



The Palestinian children and innocents have nowhere to go and are the first victims in all these conflicts. Israelis have much better technology to protect themselves, and of course it’s horrific they’d be taken hostage and murdered. But again, for decades and decades, generations of Palestinians have had nothing productive to do because of the Israeli chokehold over their economic freedom.

It’s depressing that the world cannot see that when you drive a people to despair, they will self-sabotage and hurt others like this. Israel should never have encroached on Palestinian lands in the first place.

In this conflict, YES, there are major flaws on both sides. And the US, and other Arab states and Russia, are also responsible for funding “their” side, which only encourages violence.

For decades this has been another one of these proxy wars waged by the US against economic and ideological opponents: Russia and oil rich Arab states.

And populations suffer.



Israel will win. There’s no “both sides” here.
Israel will win.


Win what?
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