Biden impeachment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the pattern:

-Democrats make unprecedented rule change
-Republicans warn of consequences if Democrats lose
-Democrats lose
-Republicans operate under new rule
-Democrats complain
-Media dutifully screams hypocrisy

See: filibuster, committee ousters, and now impeachment

what change are you referring to in this case? honest question i have not read all the prior 12 pages

Yea, Dems change the rules to benefit them. Then when not in power, they complain about it being unfair.




Harry Reid changed the rules for Judges from 60 votes needed to 50 in order to get Democratic nominees through. Republicans warned him that if went with the “nuclear” option then when they see in power, they would do the exact same thing confirming Republican Judges. I guess the Dems never thought there would be another a Republican president?

See Below:


Eight years later in 2013, it would be Harry Reid and a Democratic majority that would do away with the filibuster for executive branch appointments and judicial nominations, with the exception of the Supreme Court. Despite warnings from the minority that it was a decision they would live to regret, Reid and the Democrats deployed the nuclear option anyway.

Their day of reckoning came on Jan. 20, 2017, with a Republican president and Senate in control of judicial nominations. For the past four years, President Donald Trump and Republicans have done their constitutional duty in nominating and confirming federal judges, including now three Supreme Court nominations. But don’t blame Trump or Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Blame Harry Reid who put politics ahead of principle and opened the door for Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and soon Amy Coney Barrett.

This is not what i asked. I know about the change to the filibuster to nominate judges. The poster i was responding to claims that there is a pattern where dems make critical changes to something and rhen when republicans come into power snd use those changed procedures democrats and the media complains and, according to that poster, are hypocrites. That poster expressly said filibuster was an example in the past and now impeachment. I was asking what changes to the impeachment dems did that now republicans are using and dems are complaining about

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the pattern:

-Democrats make unprecedented rule change
-Republicans warn of consequences if Democrats lose
-Democrats lose
-Republicans operate under new rule
-Democrats complain
-Media dutifully screams hypocrisy

See: filibuster, committee ousters, and now impeachment

what change are you referring to in this case? honest question i have not read all the prior 12 pages

Yea, Dems change the rules to benefit them. Then when not in power, they complain about it being unfair.




Harry Reid changed the rules for Judges from 60 votes needed to 50 in order to get Democratic nominees through. Republicans warned him that if went with the “nuclear” option then when they see in power, they would do the exact same thing confirming Republican Judges. I guess the Dems never thought there would be another a Republican president?

See Below:


Eight years later in 2013, it would be Harry Reid and a Democratic majority that would do away with the filibuster for executive branch appointments and judicial nominations, with the exception of the Supreme Court. Despite warnings from the minority that it was a decision they would live to regret, Reid and the Democrats deployed the nuclear option anyway.

Their day of reckoning came on Jan. 20, 2017, with a Republican president and Senate in control of judicial nominations. For the past four years, President Donald Trump and Republicans have done their constitutional duty in nominating and confirming federal judges, including now three Supreme Court nominations. But don’t blame Trump or Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Blame Harry Reid who put politics ahead of principle and opened the door for Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and soon Amy Coney Barrett.

This is not what i asked. I know about the change to the filibuster to nominate judges. The poster i was responding to claims that there is a pattern where dems make critical changes to something and rhen when republicans come into power snd use those changed procedures democrats and the media complains and, according to that poster, are hypocrites. That poster expressly said filibuster was an example in the past and now impeachment. I was asking what changes to the impeachment dems did that now republicans are using and dems are complaining about

Nancy Pelosi initiated an impeachment inquiry without a House vote.

[Anonymous]

Evidence is there unless you're a liberal in denial...

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[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has always been known to be corrupt. Lots of things used to be swept under the rug. After two really fun impeachments of Trump this is going to be the new norm.

Biden has literally posted every single tax return of his adult life. Every penny of his wealth can be tracked. There is absolutely zero evidence of any crimes or illegality on his part. None.

Are you suggesting that you think Biden is stupid and would have ill gotten gains reflected on his tax returns? Come on...

Whether or not this is what happened with Biden, the way you would do this stuff is through family and close friends.

This.

This is corruption 101--never take the money directly.

Not saying Biden did anything, but if he were inclined to, given his age, enriching his heirs would be top of mind. His reported $8 million or so in net worth plus more than $300,000 annually in pension and SS is more than enough to carry Joe and Jill quite comfortably through their lifetimes.

His net worth may be quite a bit higher--federal employees don't need to disclose their TSPs--not sure about presidents--and his could be considerable (over $5 million not impossible) given his many years of service.

He sold a multimillion dollar house in Wilmington, the former DuPont estate, that be bought for cheap in the early 1970's and restored himself, raised his family and sold for many times more after he was Vice President; he signed a multi-million dollar book deal and used the proceeds to buy a 1.5 million dollar house in Rehoboth that was supposed to be his retirement residence until he went back to the White House. His "worth" pales in comparison to the likes of many GOP senators and congressmen who enter service middle to upper middle class and leave multimillionaires. I mean, how is Mitch McConnell worth $32 million now? He has had just a congressional salary since the 1980's right?

You all are insane looking for something that doesn't exist and casting aspersions on someone who has more honor in his right pinky than just about anyone else serving on the Hill. It is really sad how the conspiracy theorists have taken hold.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Even of the conjuecture is true, what is illegal? I mean, nepotism and influence peddling goes back to the Egyptions and Bablyonians and various clansman of Africa and the Middle East for millinnnia.

Where are the crimes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the pattern:

-Democrats make unprecedented rule change
-Republicans warn of consequences if Democrats lose
-Democrats lose
-Republicans operate under new rule
-Democrats complain
-Media dutifully screams hypocrisy

See: filibuster, committee ousters, and now impeachment

what change are you referring to in this case? honest question i have not read all the prior 12 pages

Yea, Dems change the rules to benefit them. Then when not in power, they complain about it being unfair.




Harry Reid changed the rules for Judges from 60 votes needed to 50 in order to get Democratic nominees through. Republicans warned him that if went with the “nuclear” option then when they see in power, they would do the exact same thing confirming Republican Judges. I guess the Dems never thought there would be another a Republican president?

See Below:


Eight years later in 2013, it would be Harry Reid and a Democratic majority that would do away with the filibuster for executive branch appointments and judicial nominations, with the exception of the Supreme Court. Despite warnings from the minority that it was a decision they would live to regret, Reid and the Democrats deployed the nuclear option anyway.

Their day of reckoning came on Jan. 20, 2017, with a Republican president and Senate in control of judicial nominations. For the past four years, President Donald Trump and Republicans have done their constitutional duty in nominating and confirming federal judges, including now three Supreme Court nominations. But don’t blame Trump or Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Blame Harry Reid who put politics ahead of principle and opened the door for Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and soon Amy Coney Barrett.

This is not what i asked. I know about the change to the filibuster to nominate judges. The poster i was responding to claims that there is a pattern where dems make critical changes to something and rhen when republicans come into power snd use those changed procedures democrats and the media complains and, according to that poster, are hypocrites. That poster expressly said filibuster was an example in the past and now impeachment. I was asking what changes to the impeachment dems did that now republicans are using and dems are complaining about

Nancy Pelosi initiated an impeachment inquiry without a House vote.

And then McCarthy assured there would be a House vote (there isn't) and the Trump White House got the DOJ to codify that impeachment hearings without a House vote were not legitimate. So unless or until McCarthy has a House vote, nothing moving forward will be legitimate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has always been known to be corrupt. Lots of things used to be swept under the rug. After two really fun impeachments of Trump this is going to be the new norm.

Biden has literally posted every single tax return of his adult life. Every penny of his wealth can be tracked. There is absolutely zero evidence of any crimes or illegality on his part. None.

Are you suggesting that you think Biden is stupid and would have ill gotten gains reflected on his tax returns? Come on...

Whether or not this is what happened with Biden, the way you would do this stuff is through family and close friends.

This.

This is corruption 101--never take the money directly.

Not saying Biden did anything, but if he were inclined to, given his age, enriching his heirs would be top of mind. His reported $8 million or so in net worth plus more than $300,000 annually in pension and SS is more than enough to carry Joe and Jill quite comfortably through their lifetimes.

His net worth may be quite a bit higher--federal employees don't need to disclose their TSPs--not sure about presidents--and his could be considerable (over $5 million not impossible) given his many years of service.

He sold a multimillion dollar house in Wilmington, the former DuPont estate, that be bought for cheap in the early 1970's and restored himself, raised his family and sold for many times more after he was Vice President; he signed a multi-million dollar book deal and used the proceeds to buy a 1.5 million dollar house in Rehoboth that was supposed to be his retirement residence until he went back to the White House. His "worth" pales in comparison to the likes of many GOP senators and congressmen who enter service middle to upper middle class and leave multimillionaires. I mean, how is Mitch McConnell worth $32 million now? He has had just a congressional salary since the 1980's right?

You all are insane looking for something that doesn't exist and casting aspersions on someone who has more honor in his right pinky than just about anyone else serving on the Hill. It is really sad how the conspiracy theorists have taken hold.

Why is the concept of the tax returns not being dispositive so difficult for you to grasp? People keep raising them as if it is the end of the discussion. It isn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has always been known to be corrupt. Lots of things used to be swept under the rug. After two really fun impeachments of Trump this is going to be the new norm.

Biden has literally posted every single tax return of his adult life. Every penny of his wealth can be tracked. There is absolutely zero evidence of any crimes or illegality on his part. None.

Are you suggesting that you think Biden is stupid and would have ill gotten gains reflected on his tax returns? Come on...

Whether or not this is what happened with Biden, the way you would do this stuff is through family and close friends.

This.

This is corruption 101--never take the money directly.

Not saying Biden did anything, but if he were inclined to, given his age, enriching his heirs would be top of mind. His reported $8 million or so in net worth plus more than $300,000 annually in pension and SS is more than enough to carry Joe and Jill quite comfortably through their lifetimes.

His net worth may be quite a bit higher--federal employees don't need to disclose their TSPs--not sure about presidents--and his could be considerable (over $5 million not impossible) given his many years of service.

He sold a multimillion dollar house in Wilmington, the former DuPont estate, that be bought for cheap in the early 1970's and restored himself, raised his family and sold for many times more after he was Vice President; he signed a multi-million dollar book deal and used the proceeds to buy a 1.5 million dollar house in Rehoboth that was supposed to be his retirement residence until he went back to the White House. His "worth" pales in comparison to the likes of many GOP senators and congressmen who enter service middle to upper middle class and leave multimillionaires. I mean, how is Mitch McConnell worth $32 million now? He has had just a congressional salary since the 1980's right?

You all are insane looking for something that doesn't exist and casting aspersions on someone who has more honor in his right pinky than just about anyone else serving on the Hill. It is really sad how the conspiracy theorists have taken hold.

Thank you! It boggles my mind that people can be so consumed by political identity and manipulation, they can’t discern between an honest, decent person they disagree with politically and a criminal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has always been known to be corrupt. Lots of things used to be swept under the rug. After two really fun impeachments of Trump this is going to be the new norm.

Biden has literally posted every single tax return of his adult life. Every penny of his wealth can be tracked. There is absolutely zero evidence of any crimes or illegality on his part. None.

Are you suggesting that you think Biden is stupid and would have ill gotten gains reflected on his tax returns? Come on...

Whether or not this is what happened with Biden, the way you would do this stuff is through family and close friends.

This.

This is corruption 101--never take the money directly.

Not saying Biden did anything, but if he were inclined to, given his age, enriching his heirs would be top of mind. His reported $8 million or so in net worth plus more than $300,000 annually in pension and SS is more than enough to carry Joe and Jill quite comfortably through their lifetimes.

His net worth may be quite a bit higher--federal employees don't need to disclose their TSPs--not sure about presidents--and his could be considerable (over $5 million not impossible) given his many years of service.

He sold a multimillion dollar house in Wilmington, the former DuPont estate, that be bought for cheap in the early 1970's and restored himself, raised his family and sold for many times more after he was Vice President; he signed a multi-million dollar book deal and used the proceeds to buy a 1.5 million dollar house in Rehoboth that was supposed to be his retirement residence until he went back to the White House. His "worth" pales in comparison to the likes of many GOP senators and congressmen who enter service middle to upper middle class and leave multimillionaires. I mean, how is Mitch McConnell worth $32 million now? He has had just a congressional salary since the 1980's right?

You all are insane looking for something that doesn't exist and casting aspersions on someone who has more honor in his right pinky than just about anyone else serving on the Hill. It is really sad how the conspiracy theorists have taken hold.

Why is the concept of the tax returns not being dispositive so difficult for you to grasp? People keep raising them as if it is the end of the discussion. It isn't.

Because the assumption is then that a sitting senator and vice president is committing tax fraud. That is a ridiculous assertion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has always been known to be corrupt. Lots of things used to be swept under the rug. After two really fun impeachments of Trump this is going to be the new norm.

Biden has literally posted every single tax return of his adult life. Every penny of his wealth can be tracked. There is absolutely zero evidence of any crimes or illegality on his part. None.

Are you suggesting that you think Biden is stupid and would have ill gotten gains reflected on his tax returns? Come on...

Whether or not this is what happened with Biden, the way you would do this stuff is through family and close friends.

This.

This is corruption 101--never take the money directly.

Not saying Biden did anything, but if he were inclined to, given his age, enriching his heirs would be top of mind. His reported $8 million or so in net worth plus more than $300,000 annually in pension and SS is more than enough to carry Joe and Jill quite comfortably through their lifetimes.

His net worth may be quite a bit higher--federal employees don't need to disclose their TSPs--not sure about presidents--and his could be considerable (over $5 million not impossible) given his many years of service.

He sold a multimillion dollar house in Wilmington, the former DuPont estate, that be bought for cheap in the early 1970's and restored himself, raised his family and sold for many times more after he was Vice President; he signed a multi-million dollar book deal and used the proceeds to buy a 1.5 million dollar house in Rehoboth that was supposed to be his retirement residence until he went back to the White House. His "worth" pales in comparison to the likes of many GOP senators and congressmen who enter service middle to upper middle class and leave multimillionaires. I mean, how is Mitch McConnell worth $32 million now? He has had just a congressional salary since the 1980's right?

You all are insane looking for something that doesn't exist and casting aspersions on someone who has more honor in his right pinky than just about anyone else serving on the Hill. It is really sad how the conspiracy theorists have taken hold.

Thank you! It boggles my mind that people can be so consumed by political identity and manipulation, they can’t discern between an honest, decent person they disagree with politically and a criminal.

They aren't lost. They know there's nothing there. The posters on this thread know that, the Senate Republicans who are not on board with this know that, the House Republicans also know that but don't care. This isn't about facts or wrong doing by Biden (any Biden) it's just a swipe because Trump was impeached. That's it, that's all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has always been known to be corrupt. Lots of things used to be swept under the rug. After two really fun impeachments of Trump this is going to be the new norm.

Biden has literally posted every single tax return of his adult life. Every penny of his wealth can be tracked. There is absolutely zero evidence of any crimes or illegality on his part. None.

Are you suggesting that you think Biden is stupid and would have ill gotten gains reflected on his tax returns? Come on...

Whether or not this is what happened with Biden, the way you would do this stuff is through family and close friends.

This.

This is corruption 101--never take the money directly.

Not saying Biden did anything, but if he were inclined to, given his age, enriching his heirs would be top of mind. His reported $8 million or so in net worth plus more than $300,000 annually in pension and SS is more than enough to carry Joe and Jill quite comfortably through their lifetimes.

His net worth may be quite a bit higher--federal employees don't need to disclose their TSPs--not sure about presidents--and his could be considerable (over $5 million not impossible) given his many years of service.

He sold a multimillion dollar house in Wilmington, the former DuPont estate, that be bought for cheap in the early 1970's and restored himself, raised his family and sold for many times more after he was Vice President; he signed a multi-million dollar book deal and used the proceeds to buy a 1.5 million dollar house in Rehoboth that was supposed to be his retirement residence until he went back to the White House. His "worth" pales in comparison to the likes of many GOP senators and congressmen who enter service middle to upper middle class and leave multimillionaires. I mean, how is Mitch McConnell worth $32 million now? He has had just a congressional salary since the 1980's right?

You all are insane looking for something that doesn't exist and casting aspersions on someone who has more honor in his right pinky than just about anyone else serving on the Hill. It is really sad how the conspiracy theorists have taken hold.

Why is the concept of the tax returns not being dispositive so difficult for you to grasp? People keep raising them as if it is the end of the discussion. It isn't.

Because the assumption is then that a sitting senator and vice president is committing tax fraud. That is a ridiculous assertion.

that assumption isn't even necessarily correct, but are you new in town?

So far the only politician in recent years being charged with Tax Fraud is Trump. So this is basically an attempt to mitigate Trump crimes by saying "everyone does it" when in fact, there is no proof that Biden has done it at all, no matter how much shit the right wants to throw at the wall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has always been known to be corrupt. Lots of things used to be swept under the rug. After two really fun impeachments of Trump this is going to be the new norm.

Biden has literally posted every single tax return of his adult life. Every penny of his wealth can be tracked. There is absolutely zero evidence of any crimes or illegality on his part. None.

Are you suggesting that you think Biden is stupid and would have ill gotten gains reflected on his tax returns? Come on...

Whether or not this is what happened with Biden, the way you would do this stuff is through family and close friends.

This.

This is corruption 101--never take the money directly.

Not saying Biden did anything, but if he were inclined to, given his age, enriching his heirs would be top of mind. His reported $8 million or so in net worth plus more than $300,000 annually in pension and SS is more than enough to carry Joe and Jill quite comfortably through their lifetimes.

His net worth may be quite a bit higher--federal employees don't need to disclose their TSPs--not sure about presidents--and his could be considerable (over $5 million not impossible) given his many years of service.

He sold a multimillion dollar house in Wilmington, the former DuPont estate, that be bought for cheap in the early 1970's and restored himself, raised his family and sold for many times more after he was Vice President; he signed a multi-million dollar book deal and used the proceeds to buy a 1.5 million dollar house in Rehoboth that was supposed to be his retirement residence until he went back to the White House. His "worth" pales in comparison to the likes of many GOP senators and congressmen who enter service middle to upper middle class and leave multimillionaires. I mean, how is Mitch McConnell worth $32 million now? He has had just a congressional salary since the 1980's right?

You all are insane looking for something that doesn't exist and casting aspersions on someone who has more honor in his right pinky than just about anyone else serving on the Hill. It is really sad how the conspiracy theorists have taken hold.

Why is the concept of the tax returns not being dispositive so difficult for you to grasp? People keep raising them as if it is the end of the discussion. It isn't.

Because the assumption is then that a sitting senator and vice president is committing tax fraud. That is a ridiculous assertion.

that assumption isn't even necessarily correct, but are you new in town?

So far the only politician in recent years being charged with Tax Fraud is Trump. So this is basically an attempt to mitigate Trump crimes by saying "everyone does it" when in fact, there is no proof that Biden has done it at all, no matter how much shit the right wants to throw at the wall.

You're already adding caveats and diverting. Look harder next time before you make blanket statements that make you look dumb. You sound naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The moderate dems in the senate will join Mitch and convict Biden.

Care for a wager on that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden has always been known to be corrupt. Lots of things used to be swept under the rug. After two really fun impeachments of Trump this is going to be the new norm.

Biden has literally posted every single tax return of his adult life. Every penny of his wealth can be tracked. There is absolutely zero evidence of any crimes or illegality on his part. None.

Are you suggesting that you think Biden is stupid and would have ill gotten gains reflected on his tax returns? Come on...

Whether or not this is what happened with Biden, the way you would do this stuff is through family and close friends.

This.

This is corruption 101--never take the money directly.

Not saying Biden did anything, but if he were inclined to, given his age, enriching his heirs would be top of mind. His reported $8 million or so in net worth plus more than $300,000 annually in pension and SS is more than enough to carry Joe and Jill quite comfortably through their lifetimes.

His net worth may be quite a bit higher--federal employees don't need to disclose their TSPs--not sure about presidents--and his could be considerable (over $5 million not impossible) given his many years of service.

He sold a multimillion dollar house in Wilmington, the former DuPont estate, that be bought for cheap in the early 1970's and restored himself, raised his family and sold for many times more after he was Vice President; he signed a multi-million dollar book deal and used the proceeds to buy a 1.5 million dollar house in Rehoboth that was supposed to be his retirement residence until he went back to the White House. His "worth" pales in comparison to the likes of many GOP senators and congressmen who enter service middle to upper middle class and leave multimillionaires. I mean, how is Mitch McConnell worth $32 million now? He has had just a congressional salary since the 1980's right?

You all are insane looking for something that doesn't exist and casting aspersions on someone who has more honor in his right pinky than just about anyone else serving on the Hill. It is really sad how the conspiracy theorists have taken hold.

Why is the concept of the tax returns not being dispositive so difficult for you to grasp? People keep raising them as if it is the end of the discussion. It isn't.

Because the assumption is then that a sitting senator and vice president is committing tax fraud. That is a ridiculous assertion.

You misunderstood PP.

PP was saying tax returns and lack of tax fraud are not dispositive for someone engaging in a corruption scheme. That is because there could be (note could here!) family members that are recipients of the funds, not themselves.

This is generally the way many leaders around the world engage in corruption. They seldom take the money themselves because it is too traceable.