"Died unexpectedly" in obit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It always means suicide or OD.

Nope, can also mean a heart attack.

I wish families would wise up and just put the cause of death in the obituary, to save themselves from lots of gossip.

Sorry to disappoint your noseyness. Families don't need to satisfy anyone's desire for additional information on their loved ones.

[Anonymous]

I wrote obits for all 4 years in college and suddenly and unexpectedly always meant suicide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wrote obits for all 4 years in college and suddenly and unexpectedly always meant suicide.

You lost credibility with the word “always.” That’s just not possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I guess seeing someone retire early from a very lucrative position at such an early age makes me wonder if "retired" = "fired" because of a some mental or addiction problem, followed by suicide or OD soon thereafter.

OP, I am trying to be kind, but you need a hobby, a job or both. You have a way too overactive imagination and your imagination conjures a lot of fiction when you don't know something that really isn't your business to know.

I've known several people who retired early from lucrative positions because they didn't really like to work and didn't like what they did. So, many of them set a mental target and when they got to a certain amount of money, they retired to live the life they wanted to live and not work themselves to death. Same with a bunch of people who started businesses that they loved. They waited until the business reached a certain value and they groomed someone to take over the business and they sold the company and left while they were still young enough to enjoy the wealth that they had built. Very common.

And died unexpectedly used to mean suicide or OD, but that was like last century. If you are still assuming that, your probably old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I guess seeing someone retire early from a very lucrative position at such an early age makes me wonder if "retired" = "fired" because of a some mental or addiction problem, followed by suicide or OD soon thereafter.

OP, I am trying to be kind, but you need a hobby, a job or both. You have a way too overactive imagination and your imagination conjures a lot of fiction when you don't know something that really isn't your business to know.

I've known several people who retired early from lucrative positions because they didn't really like to work and didn't like what they did. So, many of them set a mental target and when they got to a certain amount of money, they retired to live the life they wanted to live and not work themselves to death. Same with a bunch of people who started businesses that they loved. They waited until the business reached a certain value and they groomed someone to take over the business and they sold the company and left while they were still young enough to enjoy the wealth that they had built. Very common.

And died unexpectedly used to mean suicide or OD, but that was like last century. If you are still assuming that, your probably old.

I'm 40, which means I remember "last century" pretty well. As do a lot of us. Died unexpectedly without any cause of death in a younger person was a typically used to politely avoid mentioning suicide or overdoes. Things might be slightly different now, first of all, there's far fewer obituaries, but even in the obituaries I come across it's still usually made clear in other ways that an unexpected younger death was not due to overdoses or a suicide. "Died unexpectedly while playing basketball," for example.

Your last line makes me think you're quite young? Maybe that's why you don't fully grasp wanting to know cause of death is hardly morbid or offensive. And why we had certain phrases about certain types of death to be polite and respectful even if everyone really knew what happened. Like the old fashioned "hunting accident."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It always means suicide or OD.

Nope, can also mean a heart attack.

I wish families would wise up and just put the cause of death in the obituary, to save themselves from lots of gossip.

Not if that isn't spelled out. Who would ever let people think their loved one blew their head off instead of had a heart attack?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I guess seeing someone retire early from a very lucrative position at such an early age makes me wonder if "retired" = "fired" because of a some mental or addiction problem, followed by suicide or OD soon thereafter.

OP, I am trying to be kind, but you need a hobby, a job or both. You have a way too overactive imagination and your imagination conjures a lot of fiction when you don't know something that really isn't your business to know.

I've known several people who retired early from lucrative positions because they didn't really like to work and didn't like what they did. So, many of them set a mental target and when they got to a certain amount of money, they retired to live the life they wanted to live and not work themselves to death. Same with a bunch of people who started businesses that they loved. They waited until the business reached a certain value and they groomed someone to take over the business and they sold the company and left while they were still young enough to enjoy the wealth that they had built. Very common.

And died unexpectedly used to mean suicide or OD, but that was like last century. If you are still assuming that, your probably old.

I'm 40, which means I remember "last century" pretty well. As do a lot of us. Died unexpectedly without any cause of death in a younger person was a typically used to politely avoid mentioning suicide or overdoes. Things might be slightly different now, first of all, there's far fewer obituaries, but even in the obituaries I come across it's still usually made clear in other ways that an unexpected younger death was not due to overdoses or a suicide. "Died unexpectedly while playing basketball," for example.

Your last line makes me think you're quite young? Maybe that's why you don't fully grasp wanting to know cause of death is hardly morbid or offensive. And why we had certain phrases about certain types of death to be polite and respectful even if everyone really knew what happened. Like the old fashioned "hunting accident."

NP. I’m 43. Things change, times change. What hasn’t changed is that the only right and kind thing to do is follow the family’s lead when it comes to death, and what information they choose to share. Gossip, speculation, and trading rumors is, has been, and always will be wrong when it comes to death and grieving families.

Have you not seen in this very thread that multiple causes of death, from choking to a tree branch hitting someone one the head to heart attacks, have been listed as “suddenly” or “unexpectedly” in obituaries? Cause of death is not always immediately known. Do you get that? Have you not yet grasped that families choose to share or not share as they see fit, and good people respect those wishes and boundaries?

[Anonymous]

There's a movie about this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23810972/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I guess seeing someone retire early from a very lucrative position at such an early age makes me wonder if "retired" = "fired" because of a some mental or addiction problem, followed by suicide or OD soon thereafter.

You have an interesting bias in life. I would assume that the person was diagnosed with something terminal and decided to make his remaining time as meaningful as possible while he could, but the disease progressed much faster than expected.

I had more like the second poster here. I would assume that the person had an illness and decided to live the last part of his life the way he or she wanted to. Who wants to work until they die?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wrote obits for all 4 years in college and suddenly and unexpectedly always meant suicide.

What if it is just a very short obit - not including the words suddenly or expectedly?? ie: DOB and DOD, one or two lines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I guess seeing someone retire early from a very lucrative position at such an early age makes me wonder if "retired" = "fired" because of a some mental or addiction problem, followed by suicide or OD soon thereafter.

OP, I am trying to be kind, but you need a hobby, a job or both. You have a way too overactive imagination and your imagination conjures a lot of fiction when you don't know something that really isn't your business to know.

I've known several people who retired early from lucrative positions because they didn't really like to work and didn't like what they did. So, many of them set a mental target and when they got to a certain amount of money, they retired to live the life they wanted to live and not work themselves to death. Same with a bunch of people who started businesses that they loved. They waited until the business reached a certain value and they groomed someone to take over the business and they sold the company and left while they were still young enough to enjoy the wealth that they had built. Very common.

And died unexpectedly used to mean suicide or OD, but that was like last century. If you are still assuming that, your probably old.

I'm 40, which means I remember "last century" pretty well. As do a lot of us. Died unexpectedly without any cause of death in a younger person was a typically used to politely avoid mentioning suicide or overdoes. Things might be slightly different now, first of all, there's far fewer obituaries, but even in the obituaries I come across it's still usually made clear in other ways that an unexpected younger death was not due to overdoses or a suicide. "Died unexpectedly while playing basketball," for example.

Your last line makes me think you're quite young? Maybe that's why you don't fully grasp wanting to know cause of death is hardly morbid or offensive. And why we had certain phrases about certain types of death to be polite and respectful even if everyone really knew what happened. Like the old fashioned "hunting accident."

Np here. You are rude, unkind, and ridiculously entitled. No one owes anyone an explanation. Most of the obituaries of my friends who have died don’t list a cause whether cancer, cardiac arrest, Covid, dementia etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It always means suicide or OD.

Nope, can also mean a heart attack.

I wish families would wise up and just put the cause of death in the obituary, to save themselves from lots of gossip.

It would be so much better if you just wouldn’t gossip.

[Anonymous]

Sorry families are not going to disclose tragic details. Like when a child accidentally shoots a family member.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A person I used to work with years ago died at 51. The obituary simply says that he "died unexpectedly". Nothing else is added. I also know he "retired" early less than two months before his death. The obituary does not mention any natural causes or anything else. What does it possibly mean?

Aren’t most recent “died unexpectedly” deaths covid related?

[Anonymous]

NP. I'll give a different perspective here. A lot of people want to know the cause of death, because they're trying to protect themselves from confronting their own mortality. Suicide or OD makes them feel like they're safe from dying unexpectedly. Anything else makes them feel vulnerable.

When I was going through breast cancer treatment at age 40, everyone seemed to want to know whether I had a family history or was BRCA positive. It was obvious that they really wanted me to say yes, because they would feel much safer since they did not have the family history. In my case, there was no family history, and my genetic workup came back clean. People found that scary, because it turned into something that could happen to them or their loved ones, and not just something that happens to other people.