Pet peeve: deboarding an airplane by row

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Anonymous wrote:***What do you do in this scenario?

You are in the aisle seat in row 8. You stood up in the aisle and are patiently waiting with your small carry on (which you kept under your seat).

Everyone in front starts exiting and you move forward — and then the woman in the aisle seat ahead of you jumps up and steps out into the aisle.

Naturally, you pause.

But then she says, “My carryon is in the overhead a few rows back.”

Her expectation was that everyone already standing in the aisle for 3+ rows would sit down so she could walk back and grab it.

I said, “Sorry, I think you’re going to need to wait until there’s space for you to walk back and grab it.”

She was clearly upset.

I walked by to exit as did everyone behind me.



That lady is an idiot! No way in the world would I accommodate her. You were 100% right, PP.


I agree the lady should not have expected people to wait and sit back down. That's insane. But if the compartment was close enough, and the bag not too onerous, most people have seen on planes will offer to get the bag and pass it up.

But seriously, no point in rushing off the plane; I think for many people, though, it's anxiety that makes them act like prisoners trying to escape death row.


I travel routinely for work, and it’s mostly older men and women who rush off and immediately go to the restroom.

I was on a flight last week and a woman literally said, “Move it, people! I need to pee!”

I thought it was hilarious. But she was pushing past people and quite aggressive.

But planes gave bathrooms.

So their “emergency” is self-inflicted.


Off topic I know, but I wanted to address this because it's not really entirely fair.
1. Older people, with or without mobility issues, can find walking around a plane and navigating a cramped bathroom incredibly difficult.
2. A lot of times right before the initial descent, people crowd the lavs for a last pee and you may miss your chance. Then you have about 20 minutes when you are not allowed up again. At any rate, what wasn't urgent 20 minutes before can become urgent.
3. Not saying you should be an aggressive d!ck about getting off the plane, but as a youngish woman with a partially prolapsed bladder, I can completely understand their predicament.

Anyway, carry on.


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Anonymous wrote:***What do you do in this scenario?

You are in the aisle seat in row 8. You stood up in the aisle and are patiently waiting with your small carry on (which you kept under your seat).

Everyone in front starts exiting and you move forward — and then the woman in the aisle seat ahead of you jumps up and steps out into the aisle.

Naturally, you pause.

But then she says, “My carryon is in the overhead a few rows back.”

Her expectation was that everyone already standing in the aisle for 3+ rows would sit down so she could walk back and grab it.

I said, “Sorry, I think you’re going to need to wait until there’s space for you to walk back and grab it.”

She was clearly upset.

I walked by to exit as did everyone behind me.



She was upset, but you and others still got to move forward. Yes? So…and what? You can’t control the feelings and expectations and others. Her “upset” did not prevent you and others from deplaning. What are you looking for here, for strangers to tell you how to control the feelings of other strangers?


I’m asking if I should have sat down and let her try to pass a few rows down the aisle or if I was correct in moving forward.

She said some pretty unkind things to me as I moved on, and she was still fussing about it (and me personally) in baggage claim. (Along the lines of my “privilege” and the fact that we both ended up at baggage claim waiting.)

My thinking was this: even if I sit down and let her pass, she would then need to convince 3+ aisles behind us to sit still and let her grab her bag. Fat chance that would happen.


Why wouldn't you just step to the side a bit and let her squeeze behind you, then forget about her? She can navigate beyond that...or not.


This is exactly what you should do (if it happens in the future). She says, "oh I need my bag a few rows back." You say "oh, ok" and step into the row for a moment to let her go behind you. Then you step out and continue off the plane. It takes 3 seconds of your time. Problem solved.


There was no row to step into since the large man who had been in the middle seat next to me had already stood up in front of my my aisle seat, taken down his carryon and placed it on my seat. Ditto for the man in the aisle seat on the other side. Picture wall to wall people standing with luggage or trying to grab their luggage. And her bag was likely more than 3 rows behind. We had the attention of one person a few people back, but the luggage wasn’t in the overhead bin near them. That’s when we collectively realized she didn’t actually remember where it was and it was likely farther back. Impossible to get tons of people organized to help or move.


So you gesture to her row where there is space and say "here, let me just scoot in up here so that you can pass by me."


No space.

A guy was already in the aisle with his luggage and she was trying to step out into the main aisle from her aisle seat (with two people seated next to her).

Nobody was petite.

She was leaning out into the aisle trying to get the guy in the aisle to move. He wasn’t budging.

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Anonymous wrote:***What do you do in this scenario?

You are in the aisle seat in row 8. You stood up in the aisle and are patiently waiting with your small carry on (which you kept under your seat).

Everyone in front starts exiting and you move forward — and then the woman in the aisle seat ahead of you jumps up and steps out into the aisle.

Naturally, you pause.

But then she says, “My carryon is in the overhead a few rows back.”

Her expectation was that everyone already standing in the aisle for 3+ rows would sit down so she could walk back and grab it.

I said, “Sorry, I think you’re going to need to wait until there’s space for you to walk back and grab it.”

She was clearly upset.

I walked by to exit as did everyone behind me.



She was upset, but you and others still got to move forward. Yes? So…and what? You can’t control the feelings and expectations and others. Her “upset” did not prevent you and others from deplaning. What are you looking for here, for strangers to tell you how to control the feelings of other strangers?


I’m asking if I should have sat down and let her try to pass a few rows down the aisle or if I was correct in moving forward.

She said some pretty unkind things to me as I moved on, and she was still fussing about it (and me personally) in baggage claim. (Along the lines of my “privilege” and the fact that we both ended up at baggage claim waiting.)

My thinking was this: even if I sit down and let her pass, she would then need to convince 3+ aisles behind us to sit still and let her grab her bag. Fat chance that would happen.


Why wouldn't you just step to the side a bit and let her squeeze behind you, then forget about her? She can navigate beyond that...or not.


This is exactly what you should do (if it happens in the future). She says, "oh I need my bag a few rows back." You say "oh, ok" and step into the row for a moment to let her go behind you. Then you step out and continue off the plane. It takes 3 seconds of your time. Problem solved.


There was no row to step into since the large man who had been in the middle seat next to me had already stood up in front of my my aisle seat, taken down his carryon and placed it on my seat. Ditto for the man in the aisle seat on the other side. Picture wall to wall people standing with luggage or trying to grab their luggage. And her bag was likely more than 3 rows behind. We had the attention of one person a few people back, but the luggage wasn’t in the overhead bin near them. That’s when we collectively realized she didn’t actually remember where it was and it was likely farther back. Impossible to get tons of people organized to help or move.


So you gesture to her row where there is space and say "here, let me just scoot in up here so that you can pass by me."


No space.

A guy was already in the aisle with his luggage and she was trying to step out into the main aisle from her aisle seat (with two people seated next to her).

Nobody was petite.

She was leaning out into the aisle trying to get the guy in the aisle to move. He wasn’t budging.


Then why was she angry specifically at you? You said that she was fussing at you personally. Something doesn't add up here. But whatever... now you now what to do in the future.
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A person in "the next row" deplanes first if they want to. It's never ok to impede this or take offense just because you want-off so badly.
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An added issue, at least on flights I've been on to more vacation type places rather than cities, is the trend towards duffle-type carryons rather than wheeled. When a person stands up in the aisle, they put it on as a backpack taking up the space of two people. Not a huge deal just something to look out for.

In general I would guess it takes 10 min for a plane to fully unload. Unless you have a tight connection, it is not the end of the world.
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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Person in row 7 needs to wait until they can get to their bag


Why?


Why? Because there bag is above row 10, and there are 18 or so people between them and their bag. Not to mention all the people behind row 10 who are moving up as soon as space is available. Row 7 person has to wait until they can get to their bag without inconveniencing all those other people.
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Anonymous wrote:***What do you do in this scenario?

You are in the aisle seat in row 8. You stood up in the aisle and are patiently waiting with your small carry on (which you kept under your seat).

Everyone in front starts exiting and you move forward — and then the woman in the aisle seat ahead of you jumps up and steps out into the aisle.

Naturally, you pause.

But then she says, “My carryon is in the overhead a few rows back.”

Her expectation was that everyone already standing in the aisle for 3+ rows would sit down so she could walk back and grab it.

I said, “Sorry, I think you’re going to need to wait until there’s space for you to walk back and grab it.”

She was clearly upset.

I walked by to exit as did everyone behind me.



She was upset, but you and others still got to move forward. Yes? So…and what? You can’t control the feelings and expectations and others. Her “upset” did not prevent you and others from deplaning. What are you looking for here, for strangers to tell you how to control the feelings of other strangers?


I’m asking if I should have sat down and let her try to pass a few rows down the aisle or if I was correct in moving forward.

She said some pretty unkind things to me as I moved on, and she was still fussing about it (and me personally) in baggage claim. (Along the lines of my “privilege” and the fact that we both ended up at baggage claim waiting.)

My thinking was this: even if I sit down and let her pass, she would then need to convince 3+ aisles behind us to sit still and let her grab her bag. Fat chance that would happen.


Why wouldn't you just step to the side a bit and let her squeeze behind you, then forget about her? She can navigate beyond that...or not.


This is exactly what you should do (if it happens in the future). She says, "oh I need my bag a few rows back." You say "oh, ok" and step into the row for a moment to let her go behind you. Then you step out and continue off the plane. It takes 3 seconds of your time. Problem solved.


There was no row to step into since the large man who had been in the middle seat next to me had already stood up in front of my my aisle seat, taken down his carryon and placed it on my seat. Ditto for the man in the aisle seat on the other side. Picture wall to wall people standing with luggage or trying to grab their luggage. And her bag was likely more than 3 rows behind. We had the attention of one person a few people back, but the luggage wasn’t in the overhead bin near them. That’s when we collectively realized she didn’t actually remember where it was and it was likely farther back. Impossible to get tons of people organized to help or move.


So you gesture to her row where there is space and say "here, let me just scoot in up here so that you can pass by me."


No space.

A guy was already in the aisle with his luggage and she was trying to step out into the main aisle from her aisle seat (with two people seated next to her).

Nobody was petite.

She was leaning out into the aisle trying to get the guy in the aisle to move. He wasn’t budging.



Look, you either decide you'll be nice and helpful to the person or you decide you're being put out by that person. Obviously if it mattered enough to help out a stranger you could move mountains.
It did not matter and so you pushed on ahead.
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Anonymous wrote:***What do you do in this scenario?

You are in the aisle seat in row 8. You stood up in the aisle and are patiently waiting with your small carry on (which you kept under your seat).

Everyone in front starts exiting and you move forward — and then the woman in the aisle seat ahead of you jumps up and steps out into the aisle.

Naturally, you pause.

But then she says, “My carryon is in the overhead a few rows back.”

Her expectation was that everyone already standing in the aisle for 3+ rows would sit down so she could walk back and grab it.

I said, “Sorry, I think you’re going to need to wait until there’s space for you to walk back and grab it.”

She was clearly upset.

I walked by to exit as did everyone behind me.



She was upset, but you and others still got to move forward. Yes? So…and what? You can’t control the feelings and expectations and others. Her “upset” did not prevent you and others from deplaning. What are you looking for here, for strangers to tell you how to control the feelings of other strangers?


I’m asking if I should have sat down and let her try to pass a few rows down the aisle or if I was correct in moving forward.

She said some pretty unkind things to me as I moved on, and she was still fussing about it (and me personally) in baggage claim. (Along the lines of my “privilege” and the fact that we both ended up at baggage claim waiting.)

My thinking was this: even if I sit down and let her pass, she would then need to convince 3+ aisles behind us to sit still and let her grab her bag. Fat chance that would happen.


Why wouldn't you just step to the side a bit and let her squeeze behind you, then forget about her? She can navigate beyond that...or not.


This is exactly what you should do (if it happens in the future). She says, "oh I need my bag a few rows back." You say "oh, ok" and step into the row for a moment to let her go behind you. Then you step out and continue off the plane. It takes 3 seconds of your time. Problem solved.


There was no row to step into since the large man who had been in the middle seat next to me had already stood up in front of my my aisle seat, taken down his carryon and placed it on my seat. Ditto for the man in the aisle seat on the other side. Picture wall to wall people standing with luggage or trying to grab their luggage. And her bag was likely more than 3 rows behind. We had the attention of one person a few people back, but the luggage wasn’t in the overhead bin near them. That’s when we collectively realized she didn’t actually remember where it was and it was likely farther back. Impossible to get tons of people organized to help or move.


So you gesture to her row where there is space and say "here, let me just scoot in up here so that you can pass by me."


No space.

A guy was already in the aisle with his luggage and she was trying to step out into the main aisle from her aisle seat (with two people seated next to her).

Nobody was petite.

She was leaning out into the aisle trying to get the guy in the aisle to move. He wasn’t budging.


Then why was she angry specifically at you? You said that she was fussing at you personally. Something doesn't add up here. But whatever... now you now what to do in the future.


Everyone mostly ignored her. Since she was facing me and pushing out into the aisle (and into me), I smiled and spoke to her.
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Anonymous wrote:***What do you do in this scenario?

You are in the aisle seat in row 8. You stood up in the aisle and are patiently waiting with your small carry on (which you kept under your seat).

Everyone in front starts exiting and you move forward — and then the woman in the aisle seat ahead of you jumps up and steps out into the aisle.

Naturally, you pause.

But then she says, “My carryon is in the overhead a few rows back.”

Her expectation was that everyone already standing in the aisle for 3+ rows would sit down so she could walk back and grab it.

I said, “Sorry, I think you’re going to need to wait until there’s space for you to walk back and grab it.”

She was clearly upset.

I walked by to exit as did everyone behind me.



She was upset, but you and others still got to move forward. Yes? So…and what? You can’t control the feelings and expectations and others. Her “upset” did not prevent you and others from deplaning. What are you looking for here, for strangers to tell you how to control the feelings of other strangers?


I’m asking if I should have sat down and let her try to pass a few rows down the aisle or if I was correct in moving forward.

She said some pretty unkind things to me as I moved on, and she was still fussing about it (and me personally) in baggage claim. (Along the lines of my “privilege” and the fact that we both ended up at baggage claim waiting.)

My thinking was this: even if I sit down and let her pass, she would then need to convince 3+ aisles behind us to sit still and let her grab her bag. Fat chance that would happen.


Why wouldn't you just step to the side a bit and let her squeeze behind you, then forget about her? She can navigate beyond that...or not.


This is exactly what you should do (if it happens in the future). She says, "oh I need my bag a few rows back." You say "oh, ok" and step into the row for a moment to let her go behind you. Then you step out and continue off the plane. It takes 3 seconds of your time. Problem solved.


There was no row to step into since the large man who had been in the middle seat next to me had already stood up in front of my my aisle seat, taken down his carryon and placed it on my seat. Ditto for the man in the aisle seat on the other side. Picture wall to wall people standing with luggage or trying to grab their luggage. And her bag was likely more than 3 rows behind. We had the attention of one person a few people back, but the luggage wasn’t in the overhead bin near them. That’s when we collectively realized she didn’t actually remember where it was and it was likely farther back. Impossible to get tons of people organized to help or move.


So you gesture to her row where there is space and say "here, let me just scoot in up here so that you can pass by me."


No space.

A guy was already in the aisle with his luggage and she was trying to step out into the main aisle from her aisle seat (with two people seated next to her).

Nobody was petite.

She was leaning out into the aisle trying to get the guy in the aisle to move. He wasn’t budging.


Then why was she angry specifically at you? You said that she was fussing at you personally. Something doesn't add up here. But whatever... now you now what to do in the future.


Everyone mostly ignored her. Since she was facing me and pushing out into the aisle (and into me), I smiled and spoke to her.


You decided she should wait, and everyone followed your decision because they could attribute responsibility for the decision to you. You got to be the bad guy. They were just following your example.

Just because they were following your example doesn't mean it was the best decision. If you had decided to help out, they would likely follow your lead too. No one wants to look like a bad guy. You took the fall instead.
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Anonymous wrote:***What do you do in this scenario?

You are in the aisle seat in row 8. You stood up in the aisle and are patiently waiting with your small carry on (which you kept under your seat).

Everyone in front starts exiting and you move forward — and then the woman in the aisle seat ahead of you jumps up and steps out into the aisle.

Naturally, you pause.

But then she says, “My carryon is in the overhead a few rows back.”

Her expectation was that everyone already standing in the aisle for 3+ rows would sit down so she could walk back and grab it.

I said, “Sorry, I think you’re going to need to wait until there’s space for you to walk back and grab it.”

She was clearly upset.

I walked by to exit as did everyone behind me.



She was upset, but you and others still got to move forward. Yes? So…and what? You can’t control the feelings and expectations and others. Her “upset” did not prevent you and others from deplaning. What are you looking for here, for strangers to tell you how to control the feelings of other strangers?


I’m asking if I should have sat down and let her try to pass a few rows down the aisle or if I was correct in moving forward.

She said some pretty unkind things to me as I moved on, and she was still fussing about it (and me personally) in baggage claim. (Along the lines of my “privilege” and the fact that we both ended up at baggage claim waiting.)

My thinking was this: even if I sit down and let her pass, she would then need to convince 3+ aisles behind us to sit still and let her grab her bag. Fat chance that would happen.


Why wouldn't you just step to the side a bit and let her squeeze behind you, then forget about her? She can navigate beyond that...or not.


This is exactly what you should do (if it happens in the future). She says, "oh I need my bag a few rows back." You say "oh, ok" and step into the row for a moment to let her go behind you. Then you step out and continue off the plane. It takes 3 seconds of your time. Problem solved.


There was no row to step into since the large man who had been in the middle seat next to me had already stood up in front of my my aisle seat, taken down his carryon and placed it on my seat. Ditto for the man in the aisle seat on the other side. Picture wall to wall people standing with luggage or trying to grab their luggage. And her bag was likely more than 3 rows behind. We had the attention of one person a few people back, but the luggage wasn’t in the overhead bin near them. That’s when we collectively realized she didn’t actually remember where it was and it was likely farther back. Impossible to get tons of people organized to help or move.


So you gesture to her row where there is space and say "here, let me just scoot in up here so that you can pass by me."


No space.

A guy was already in the aisle with his luggage and she was trying to step out into the main aisle from her aisle seat (with two people seated next to her).

Nobody was petite.

She was leaning out into the aisle trying to get the guy in the aisle to move. He wasn’t budging.


Then why was she angry specifically at you? You said that she was fussing at you personally. Something doesn't add up here. But whatever... now you now what to do in the future.


Everyone mostly ignored her. Since she was facing me and pushing out into the aisle (and into me), I smiled and spoke to her.


You decided she should wait, and everyone followed your decision because they could attribute responsibility for the decision to you. You got to be the bad guy. They were just following your example.

Just because they were following your example doesn't mean it was the best decision. If you had decided to help out, they would likely follow your lead too. No one wants to look like a bad guy. You took the fall instead.


The best part about this whole dumb sub thread is that they all wound up standing around waiting for checked bags anyways. So the OP of the sub thread and all her equally smug comrades could have just let this woman get her bag and get off the plane and the story would have ended exactly the same, except OP wouldn’t have been the a$$hole.
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I wish slower people would just sit it out until the efficient ones are off the plane!
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Anonymous wrote:When it is my turn, I take my turn as quickly and efficiently as possible. I have a hidden disability, but it is still my turn and I am using it appropriately. You can be a jerk all you want, but I’m going to take my turn, and it’s going to take as long as it takes.

You’re not all that important. If you were, you would have had a first class ticket.


What does this even mean? If you're standing in the aisle gathering your things, yes, people should wait and they do. No one will shove you aside. If you're still sitting in your seat or you're standing in the row gathering your things, then people who are standing and ready to move forward will move forward. Are you saying you're going to sit in your seat for as long as you want shouting "It's my turn! I'm taking my turn!"? Because that would be as insane as someone mowing you down while you're standing in the aisle.


This isn’t that hard. Imagine you’re on a smaller 3 by 3 aircraft. Seats 5 c and 5 d are standing in the aisles waiting to deplane while seats 5a-b and e-f are still sitting in their seats waiting to exit since there isn’t much space. Any civilized person in rows 6 and beyond would wait to allow 5A-B and E-F to stand and exit once 5C and 5D have moved along but then you have barbarians further back in the plane like op who are pissed that 6C and 6D are being “overly courteous” and think because they are already standing in the aisle they are entitled to push their way through, basically just creating a free for all.


Exactly this. The cases where someone is truly being egregiously slow are very rare. I travel a lot, and on the few occasions where someone truly was still “packing up” and not ready to go, they have waved the people behind them on through. But, yes, if you’re in the window seat, it’s going to take you a moment to slide across, stand up and get your carry on out of the overhead. I’ve been in that situation, and basically gotten trapped in my seat by the people behind me who had been sitting in aisle seats charging down the aisle. Yes, sometimes it seems like it’s taking forever for a plane to deboard when you’re sitting in the back, but that’s just how long it takes.


Completely agree ... Can't stand it when I'm in the window seat and all the aisle chargers from behind are clogging up the aisle just to move up a row or two ... and boxing me in. I feel like these people were raised by wolves.

As George Costanza said: "We live in a SOCIETY, people!"
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Anonymous wrote:When it is my turn, I take my turn as quickly and efficiently as possible. I have a hidden disability, but it is still my turn and I am using it appropriately. You can be a jerk all you want, but I’m going to take my turn, and it’s going to take as long as it takes.

You’re not all that important. If you were, you would have had a first class ticket.


What does this even mean? If you're standing in the aisle gathering your things, yes, people should wait and they do. No one will shove you aside. If you're still sitting in your seat or you're standing in the row gathering your things, then people who are standing and ready to move forward will move forward. Are you saying you're going to sit in your seat for as long as you want shouting "It's my turn! I'm taking my turn!"? Because that would be as insane as someone mowing you down while you're standing in the aisle.


This isn’t that hard. Imagine you’re on a smaller 3 by 3 aircraft. Seats 5 c and 5 d are standing in the aisles waiting to deplane while seats 5a-b and e-f are still sitting in their seats waiting to exit since there isn’t much space. Any civilized person in rows 6 and beyond would wait to allow 5A-B and E-F to stand and exit once 5C and 5D have moved along but then you have barbarians further back in the plane like op who are pissed that 6C and 6D are being “overly courteous” and think because they are already standing in the aisle they are entitled to push their way through, basically just creating a free for all.


Exactly this. The cases where someone is truly being egregiously slow are very rare. I travel a lot, and on the few occasions where someone truly was still “packing up” and not ready to go, they have waved the people behind them on through. But, yes, if you’re in the window seat, it’s going to take you a moment to slide across, stand up and get your carry on out of the overhead. I’ve been in that situation, and basically gotten trapped in my seat by the people behind me who had been sitting in aisle seats charging down the aisle. Yes, sometimes it seems like it’s taking forever for a plane to deboard when you’re sitting in the back, but that’s just how long it takes.


Completely agree ... Can't stand it when I'm in the window seat and all the aisle chargers from behind are clogging up the aisle just to move up a row or two ... and boxing me in. I feel like these people were raised by wolves.

As George Costanza said: "We live in a SOCIETY, people!"


Several posters mentioned it only takes 10 minutes to deplane, so what’s the big deal?
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Anonymous wrote:When it is my turn, I take my turn as quickly and efficiently as possible. I have a hidden disability, but it is still my turn and I am using it appropriately. You can be a jerk all you want, but I’m going to take my turn, and it’s going to take as long as it takes.

You’re not all that important. If you were, you would have had a first class ticket.


What does this even mean? If you're standing in the aisle gathering your things, yes, people should wait and they do. No one will shove you aside. If you're still sitting in your seat or you're standing in the row gathering your things, then people who are standing and ready to move forward will move forward. Are you saying you're going to sit in your seat for as long as you want shouting "It's my turn! I'm taking my turn!"? Because that would be as insane as someone mowing you down while you're standing in the aisle.


This isn’t that hard. Imagine you’re on a smaller 3 by 3 aircraft. Seats 5 c and 5 d are standing in the aisles waiting to deplane while seats 5a-b and e-f are still sitting in their seats waiting to exit since there isn’t much space. Any civilized person in rows 6 and beyond would wait to allow 5A-B and E-F to stand and exit once 5C and 5D have moved along but then you have barbarians further back in the plane like op who are pissed that 6C and 6D are being “overly courteous” and think because they are already standing in the aisle they are entitled to push their way through, basically just creating a free for all.


Exactly this. The cases where someone is truly being egregiously slow are very rare. I travel a lot, and on the few occasions where someone truly was still “packing up” and not ready to go, they have waved the people behind them on through. But, yes, if you’re in the window seat, it’s going to take you a moment to slide across, stand up and get your carry on out of the overhead. I’ve been in that situation, and basically gotten trapped in my seat by the people behind me who had been sitting in aisle seats charging down the aisle. Yes, sometimes it seems like it’s taking forever for a plane to deboard when you’re sitting in the back, but that’s just how long it takes.


Completely agree ... Can't stand it when I'm in the window seat and all the aisle chargers from behind are clogging up the aisle just to move up a row or two ... and boxing me in. I feel like these people were raised by wolves.

As George Costanza said: "We live in a SOCIETY, people!"


Several posters mentioned it only takes 10 minutes to deplane, so what’s the big deal?


It's the equivalent of cutting in line ... Even in a fast food restaurant, it's annoying.
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Anonymous wrote:***What do you do in this scenario?

You are in the aisle seat in row 8. You stood up in the aisle and are patiently waiting with your small carry on (which you kept under your seat).

Everyone in front starts exiting and you move forward — and then the woman in the aisle seat ahead of you jumps up and steps out into the aisle.

Naturally, you pause.

But then she says, “My carryon is in the overhead a few rows back.”

Her expectation was that everyone already standing in the aisle for 3+ rows would sit down so she could walk back and grab it.

I said, “Sorry, I think you’re going to need to wait until there’s space for you to walk back and grab it.”

She was clearly upset.

I walked by to exit as did everyone behind me.



She was upset, but you and others still got to move forward. Yes? So…and what? You can’t control the feelings and expectations and others. Her “upset” did not prevent you and others from deplaning. What are you looking for here, for strangers to tell you how to control the feelings of other strangers?


I’m asking if I should have sat down and let her try to pass a few rows down the aisle or if I was correct in moving forward.

She said some pretty unkind things to me as I moved on, and she was still fussing about it (and me personally) in baggage claim. (Along the lines of my “privilege” and the fact that we both ended up at baggage claim waiting.)

My thinking was this: even if I sit down and let her pass, she would then need to convince 3+ aisles behind us to sit still and let her grab her bag. Fat chance that would happen.


Why wouldn't you just step to the side a bit and let her squeeze behind you, then forget about her? She can navigate beyond that...or not.


This is exactly what you should do (if it happens in the future). She says, "oh I need my bag a few rows back." You say "oh, ok" and step into the row for a moment to let her go behind you. Then you step out and continue off the plane. It takes 3 seconds of your time. Problem solved.


There was no row to step into since the large man who had been in the middle seat next to me had already stood up in front of my my aisle seat, taken down his carryon and placed it on my seat. Ditto for the man in the aisle seat on the other side. Picture wall to wall people standing with luggage or trying to grab their luggage. And her bag was likely more than 3 rows behind. We had the attention of one person a few people back, but the luggage wasn’t in the overhead bin near them. That’s when we collectively realized she didn’t actually remember where it was and it was likely farther back. Impossible to get tons of people organized to help or move.


So you gesture to her row where there is space and say "here, let me just scoot in up here so that you can pass by me."


No space.

A guy was already in the aisle with his luggage and she was trying to step out into the main aisle from her aisle seat (with two people seated next to her).

Nobody was petite.

She was leaning out into the aisle trying to get the guy in the aisle to move. He wasn’t budging.


Then why was she angry specifically at you? You said that she was fussing at you personally. Something doesn't add up here. But whatever... now you now what to do in the future.


Everyone mostly ignored her. Since she was facing me and pushing out into the aisle (and into me), I smiled and spoke to her.


You decided she should wait, and everyone followed your decision because they could attribute responsibility for the decision to you. You got to be the bad guy. They were just following your example.

Just because they were following your example doesn't mean it was the best decision. If you had decided to help out, they would likely follow your lead too. No one wants to look like a bad guy. You took the fall instead.


The best part about this whole dumb sub thread is that they all wound up standing around waiting for checked bags anyways. So the OP of the sub thread and all her equally smug comrades could have just let this woman get her bag and get off the plane and the story would have ended exactly the same, except OP wouldn’t have been the a$$hole.


is this some Gen Z thing? Come on - you don’t walk *backwards* in the plane when deplaning. if you for whatever reason put your carryon rows behind you, you wait until everyone else deplanes.
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