MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that resonated was the fact that teachers are highly criticized with their planning but it is taken away many times unpaid by the demand for subs. So we naturally fill the hole but then admin ticks us all the time on our plans when the time was given up free for the "do it for the kids" bs. Well who is doing right by the teachers.

I think back about how I tried so hard to keep my job, jumped through all the hoops, to be a teacher. I heard the horror stories and I chose to be a teacher anyway. I don't know what I was thinking.

So, you’re saying we should raise the ridiculously low compensation for subs rather than increasing the pay of teachers making six figures?

You’re so jealous of teacher salaries… get a life. We get it. You hate teachers. They’ll continue to make more than you. Get a better job if you’re so upset. Grow up.

Did you read the earlier post describing the added workload on teachers because of a lack of subs? You don't think the $21/hour pay with no benefits plays a role in that?

I’m well aware of how poorly subs are paid. That has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made. Teachers should be paid well; so should subs.

And relative to other public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields, public school teachers are well-compensated. There absolutely are issues that need to be addressed and improved for teachers, but pay for veteran teachers isn’t one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Back on topic the superintendent and board got knocked down a few pegs today. So MCEA even though they weren’t physically present at the table.

How so?

MCPS/BOE tried to get the committee’s cuts restored by the full council. Not only did that fail, but nine of the council members lectured them on poor performance, transparency, bullying, and fiscal responsibility.

Video is here:

MCPS portion starts at 1 hour and 24 minutes in

Thank you for sharing this! You MUST watch Dawn @ 2:00. SHE NAILED IT! As a teacher, I have always questioned the accuracy of any of student data. We are not allowed to hold students accountable when our admin forces us to practically change the grades to make them pass! During COVID, I had an admin try to force me to change everyone's grade to passing (C or better) which means even if they never did any work. Once that conversation happened, I lost all respect for MCPS. I also left that school. I refused and told them they had to change the grades themselves. I won't. Your kids are not going to be prepared for life after MCPS unless you as a parent teach them about the importance of executive functioning. MCPS is failing students not literally, but in so many ways. So many ways.

I’m impressed with Dawn. I was very much on the fence about her but I’m pleasantly surprised. She is my representative, but I’m not sure what school her kids go to. At my kids school the deadlines are enforced.

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Agreed on Dawn.

She has been great, and I was concerned about her because I never cared for the way Eric seemed to spend most of his time trying to troll Governor Hogan.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed on Dawn.

She has been great, and I was concerned about her because I never cared for the way Eric seemed to spend most of his time trying to troll Governor Hogan.

I’m the PP and that’s exactly why I was on the fence about her. I don’t like her husband. So far I really like her. I only watched her portion of the video. I’m going to go back and listen to the entirety.

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Natali Fani-Gonzalez is also not backing down. She's demanding specific answers, actions and accountability from Monifa and the BoE:

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that resonated was the fact that teachers are highly criticized with their planning but it is taken away many times unpaid by the demand for subs. So we naturally fill the hole but then admin ticks us all the time on our plans when the time was given up free for the "do it for the kids" bs. Well who is doing right by the teachers.

I think back about how I tried so hard to keep my job, jumped through all the hoops, to be a teacher. I heard the horror stories and I chose to be a teacher anyway. I don't know what I was thinking.

So, you’re saying we should raise the ridiculously low compensation for subs rather than increasing the pay of teachers making six figures?

You’re so jealous of teacher salaries… get a life. We get it. You hate teachers. They’ll continue to make more than you. Get a better job if you’re so upset. Grow up.

Did you read the earlier post describing the added workload on teachers because of a lack of subs? You don't think the $21/hour pay with no benefits plays a role in that?

I’m well aware of how poorly subs are paid. That has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made. Teachers should be paid well; so should subs.

And relative to other public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields, public school teachers are well-compensated. There absolutely are issues that need to be addressed and improved for teachers, but pay for veteran teachers isn’t one of them.

Are people leaving public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields in droves? Is there are shortage of people who are willing to work in public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields, at current pay rates, with current working conditions?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that resonated was the fact that teachers are highly criticized with their planning but it is taken away many times unpaid by the demand for subs. So we naturally fill the hole but then admin ticks us all the time on our plans when the time was given up free for the "do it for the kids" bs. Well who is doing right by the teachers.

I think back about how I tried so hard to keep my job, jumped through all the hoops, to be a teacher. I heard the horror stories and I chose to be a teacher anyway. I don't know what I was thinking.

So, you’re saying we should raise the ridiculously low compensation for subs rather than increasing the pay of teachers making six figures?

You’re so jealous of teacher salaries… get a life. We get it. You hate teachers. They’ll continue to make more than you. Get a better job if you’re so upset. Grow up.

Did you read the earlier post describing the added workload on teachers because of a lack of subs? You don't think the $21/hour pay with no benefits plays a role in that?

I’m well aware of how poorly subs are paid. That has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made. Teachers should be paid well; so should subs.

And relative to other public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields, public school teachers are well-compensated. There absolutely are issues that need to be addressed and improved for teachers, but pay for veteran teachers isn’t one of them.

Are people leaving public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields in droves? Is there are shortage of people who are willing to work in public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields, at current pay rates, with current working conditions?

Yes, the county is struggling to get workers, especially social workers and the pay is less, not more.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that resonated was the fact that teachers are highly criticized with their planning but it is taken away many times unpaid by the demand for subs. So we naturally fill the hole but then admin ticks us all the time on our plans when the time was given up free for the "do it for the kids" bs. Well who is doing right by the teachers.

I think back about how I tried so hard to keep my job, jumped through all the hoops, to be a teacher. I heard the horror stories and I chose to be a teacher anyway. I don't know what I was thinking.

So, you’re saying we should raise the ridiculously low compensation for subs rather than increasing the pay of teachers making six figures?

You’re so jealous of teacher salaries… get a life. We get it. You hate teachers. They’ll continue to make more than you. Get a better job if you’re so upset. Grow up.

Did you read the earlier post describing the added workload on teachers because of a lack of subs? You don't think the $21/hour pay with no benefits plays a role in that?

I’m well aware of how poorly subs are paid. That has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made. Teachers should be paid well; so should subs.

And relative to other public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields, public school teachers are well-compensated. There absolutely are issues that need to be addressed and improved for teachers, but pay for veteran teachers isn’t one of them.

Are people leaving public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields in droves? Is there are shortage of people who are willing to work in public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields, at current pay rates, with current working conditions?

Yes, the county is struggling to get workers, especially social workers and the pay is less, not more.

In other words, social workers and teachers both aren't paid enough for people to want to do those jobs for that pay under those conditions...

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Mink with a tweet this morning that I didnt quite understand.

She says she know supports a 6% property tax hike (but not ten), then later says "therefore that is why I support 6.5"

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Anonymous wrote:Mink with a tweet this morning that I didnt quite understand.

She says she know supports a 6% property tax hike (but not ten), then later says "therefore that is why I support 6.5"

I agree it's not very clear. I think what she is saying is that 6% should be the minimum. 6.5% would be to get additional funding for the schools if the money can't be found anywhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:Mink with a tweet this morning that I didnt quite understand.

She says she know supports a 6% property tax hike (but not ten), then later says "therefore that is why I support 6.5"

There's a lot of room for potential agreement with any hike between 5-10%. Which is why I never understood why MCPS and MCEA were saying 10% or else. It was suicidal.

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Anonymous wrote:Mink with a tweet this morning that I didnt quite understand.

She says she know supports a 6% property tax hike (but not ten), then later says "therefore that is why I support 6.5"

I just checked and you’re right, I’m confused if she means a six or 6.5 increase.

https://twitter.com/kristinmink_/status/1658287607967539202?s=21&t=trpkC5ZFI_rj97d1Yh7H9w

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that resonated was the fact that teachers are highly criticized with their planning but it is taken away many times unpaid by the demand for subs. So we naturally fill the hole but then admin ticks us all the time on our plans when the time was given up free for the "do it for the kids" bs. Well who is doing right by the teachers.

I think back about how I tried so hard to keep my job, jumped through all the hoops, to be a teacher. I heard the horror stories and I chose to be a teacher anyway. I don't know what I was thinking.

So, you’re saying we should raise the ridiculously low compensation for subs rather than increasing the pay of teachers making six figures?

You’re so jealous of teacher salaries… get a life. We get it. You hate teachers. They’ll continue to make more than you. Get a better job if you’re so upset. Grow up.

Did you read the earlier post describing the added workload on teachers because of a lack of subs? You don't think the $21/hour pay with no benefits plays a role in that?

I’m well aware of how poorly subs are paid. That has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made. Teachers should be paid well; so should subs.

And relative to other public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields, public school teachers are well-compensated. There absolutely are issues that need to be addressed and improved for teachers, but pay for veteran teachers isn’t one of them.

Are people leaving public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields in droves? Is there are shortage of people who are willing to work in public sector jobs in the social sciences, communications, and similar fields, at current pay rates, with current working conditions?

Yes, the county is struggling to get workers, especially social workers and the pay is less, not more.

In other words, social workers and teachers both aren't paid enough for people to want to do those jobs for that pay under those conditions...

It’s not just about the money.

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I just checked Dawn Ludke’s Twitter, and she supports an 8% tax hike, higher than Kristin Mink. That’s surprising.

“I'm proud to support an additional $215 million in tax-supported funding for Montgomery County Public Schools - an almost 8% increase that gives the school system the resources it needs to honor its negotiated contracts with teachers, school support staff, and administrators.“

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Anonymous wrote:I just checked Dawn Ludke’s Twitter, and she supports an 8% tax hike, higher than Kristin Mink. That’s surprising.

“I'm proud to support an additional $215 million in tax-supported funding for Montgomery County Public Schools - an almost 8% increase that gives the school system the resources it needs to honor its negotiated contracts with teachers, school support staff, and administrators.“

It doesn't sound like she's recommending an 8% tax increase. It sounds like she's supporting an 8% increase in funding for the schools. Could come from other sources (e.g. giving lower increases to other departments).