Vivek Ramaswamy Presidential candidate

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Mark Levin loses his head after Vivek suggests us pare back Israeli aid slowly

Accused Vivek as being closer to the squad

This is something I’ve been saying for a while

A diversified non-white majority América just won’t have the same emotional guilt trips over Israel and Zionism — even with non-white republicans

Zionism is eroding fast with Dems and with non-white men who are republicans — they aren’t guilt tripped over it either

Jewish issues and suffering is on par with Cambodia, Burma, Soviet progroms and other mass atrocities

Nothing more nothing less

The faster Jewish interest groups understand how to talk to communities and people of color, it’s better for all of us

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Anonymous wrote:Mark Levin loses his head after Vivek suggests us pare back Israeli aid slowly

Accused Vivek as being closer to the squad

This is something I’ve been saying for a while

A diversified non-white majority América just won’t have the same emotional guilt trips over Israel and Zionism — even with non-white republicans

Zionism is eroding fast with Dems and with non-white men who are republicans — they aren’t guilt tripped over it either

Jewish issues and suffering is on par with Cambodia, Burma, Soviet progroms and other mass atrocities

Nothing more nothing less

The faster Jewish interest groups understand how to talk to communities and people of color, it’s better for all of us



I hadn’t considered that but I think you are right.
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After the debate he becomes a R front runner
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Anonymous wrote:Mark Levin loses his head after Vivek suggests us pare back Israeli aid slowly

Accused Vivek as being closer to the squad

This is something I’ve been saying for a while

A diversified non-white majority América just won’t have the same emotional guilt trips over Israel and Zionism — even with non-white republicans

Zionism is eroding fast with Dems and with non-white men who are republicans — they aren’t guilt tripped over it either

Jewish issues and suffering is on par with Cambodia, Burma, Soviet progroms and other mass atrocities

Nothing more nothing less

The faster Jewish interest groups understand how to talk to communities and people of color, it’s better for all of us



A bit shortsighted, no?

Don’t we need an ally and military foothold over there, and hasn’t Israel always played that role? What’s the alternative? Surely you don’t believe we no longer need one.
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Anonymous wrote:Mark Levin loses his head after Vivek suggests us pare back Israeli aid slowly

Accused Vivek as being closer to the squad

This is something I’ve been saying for a while

A diversified non-white majority América just won’t have the same emotional guilt trips over Israel and Zionism — even with non-white republicans

Zionism is eroding fast with Dems and with non-white men who are republicans — they aren’t guilt tripped over it either

Jewish issues and suffering is on par with Cambodia, Burma, Soviet progroms and other mass atrocities

Nothing more nothing less

The faster Jewish interest groups understand how to talk to communities and people of color, it’s better for all of us



Jewish issues or Israeli issues? Because they are not the same. That is why anti-Israel folks are quick to say they are not anti-Semitic. So which is it? Israeli issues or Jewish issues? Also, Jews come in all colors. People of color and Jews are not mutually exclusive. You're welcome.
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Anonymous wrote:Mark Levin loses his head after Vivek suggests us pare back Israeli aid slowly

Accused Vivek as being closer to the squad

This is something I’ve been saying for a while

A diversified non-white majority América just won’t have the same emotional guilt trips over Israel and Zionism — even with non-white republicans

Zionism is eroding fast with Dems and with non-white men who are republicans — they aren’t guilt tripped over it either

Jewish issues and suffering is on par with Cambodia, Burma, Soviet progroms and other mass atrocities

Nothing more nothing less

The faster Jewish interest groups understand how to talk to communities and people of color, it’s better for all of us



A bit shortsighted, no?

Don’t we need an ally and military foothold over there, and hasn’t Israel always played that role? What’s the alternative? Surely you don’t believe we no longer need one.



not once we give up fossil fuels
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Anonymous wrote:Mark Levin loses his head after Vivek suggests us pare back Israeli aid slowly

Accused Vivek as being closer to the squad

This is something I’ve been saying for a while

A diversified non-white majority América just won’t have the same emotional guilt trips over Israel and Zionism — even with non-white republicans

Zionism is eroding fast with Dems and with non-white men who are republicans — they aren’t guilt tripped over it either

Jewish issues and suffering is on par with Cambodia, Burma, Soviet progroms and other mass atrocities

Nothing more nothing less

The faster Jewish interest groups understand how to talk to communities and people of color, it’s better for all of us



A bit shortsighted, no?

Don’t we need an ally and military foothold over there, and hasn’t Israel always played that role? What’s the alternative? Surely you don’t believe we no longer need one.



not once we give up fossil fuels


Riiiiiiiigghhtt.

But, that hasn’t happened yet nor will it happen in our lifetime.

So aren’t all the politicians and voters who for whatever bizarre reason believe Israel doesn’t matter and (more directly) shouldn’t hold us over the proverbial barrel demonstrating how politically clueless they are?

I mean, c’mon man!
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Anonymous wrote:Great, another Republican businessman with no experience in government - didn't we learn from our last mistake?

And for those who think this makes him somehow better than an experienced politician, it doesn't. The functions of government and the politics behind it require an experienced hand to navigate; government doesn't operate like a corporation, nor should it.


While this is all true, it starts to fall on deaf ears when you get "experienced" duds like Biden in. The reason a Reality TV star like Trump and a longtime DC outsider, non-entity like Sanders surged in 2016 is because people got fed up with what "experience" was serving up for them.


DP. I'm way more likely to vote for one of these "outsiders" than most of DCUM, but when people start telling me that the outsider candidates are Ivy League education millionaires and billionaires, it sets off /my bullshit meter.


I actually agree with you on this, but I also view it as an almost structural impediment in and indictment of our political system. Tough to see a truly grassroots candidate rise to that level and get enough traction to be on a debate stage without being similarly "credentialed". Yang barely scraped it, but he also fits the same profile. There is just way too much money in politics.


I think Yang is very precisely the analog to Ramaswamy here. Young, rich, no experience in government, and with a signature proposal that's never going to happen but grabs attention.


What's Vivek's signature proposal? The voting thing? Or affirmative action?


I was thinking of the proposal to change the voting age.


Ok gotcha. Yeah, not likely, but it is also a proxy and touch point for civic mindedness, national identity, "America first", pioneering spirit, "merit" and other themes that animate a number of other things that come out of his mouth.

Recall Ann Coulters quip about Trump "They like your ideas, but not you". But yeah inexperience is a big stick people will hit him with, along with being an elite, and probably his otherness (vegetarian, Hindu, etc.)


About the voting age thing, have we ever thrown out an Amendment to the Constitution within 55 years? Only Prohibition comes to mind.

Mr. R became a billionaire via the pharmaceutical industry. Since when are these guys honest actors? Anyone remember the Sacklers?

I have white hot hatred for Mr R due to his comments on Gay and Trans youth.


What comments, exactly?
Because in this interaction, he shows nothing but respect.


Well done, Vivek!
Dems, take note.


He talks about a woman who respects her bodily autonomy and dignity who shouldn't be forced to share a locker room with a man. But it's okay for the government to dictate her most personal, serious, and life-changing bodily autonomy!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/18/us/politics/republican-candidates-2024-abortion.html

Oh - we're taking note.
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Anonymous wrote:Great, another Republican businessman with no experience in government - didn't we learn from our last mistake?

And for those who think this makes him somehow better than an experienced politician, it doesn't. The functions of government and the politics behind it require an experienced hand to navigate; government doesn't operate like a corporation, nor should it.


While this is all true, it starts to fall on deaf ears when you get "experienced" duds like Biden in. The reason a Reality TV star like Trump and a longtime DC outsider, non-entity like Sanders surged in 2016 is because people got fed up with what "experience" was serving up for them.


DP. I'm way more likely to vote for one of these "outsiders" than most of DCUM, but when people start telling me that the outsider candidates are Ivy League education millionaires and billionaires, it sets off /my bullshit meter.


I actually agree with you on this, but I also view it as an almost structural impediment in and indictment of our political system. Tough to see a truly grassroots candidate rise to that level and get enough traction to be on a debate stage without being similarly "credentialed". Yang barely scraped it, but he also fits the same profile. There is just way too much money in politics.


I think Yang is very precisely the analog to Ramaswamy here. Young, rich, no experience in government, and with a signature proposal that's never going to happen but grabs attention.


What's Vivek's signature proposal? The voting thing? Or affirmative action?


I was thinking of the proposal to change the voting age.


Ok gotcha. Yeah, not likely, but it is also a proxy and touch point for civic mindedness, national identity, "America first", pioneering spirit, "merit" and other themes that animate a number of other things that come out of his mouth.

Recall Ann Coulters quip about Trump "They like your ideas, but not you". But yeah inexperience is a big stick people will hit him with, along with being an elite, and probably his otherness (vegetarian, Hindu, etc.)


About the voting age thing, have we ever thrown out an Amendment to the Constitution within 55 years? Only Prohibition comes to mind.

Mr. R became a billionaire via the pharmaceutical industry. Since when are these guys honest actors? Anyone remember the Sacklers?

I have white hot hatred for Mr R due to his comments on Gay and Trans youth.


What comments, exactly?
Because in this interaction, he shows nothing but respect.


Well done, Vivek!
Dems, take note.


He talks about a woman who respects her bodily autonomy and dignity who shouldn't be forced to share a locker room with a man. But it's okay for the government to dictate her most personal, serious, and life-changing bodily autonomy!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/18/us/politics/republican-candidates-2024-abortion.html

Oh - we're taking note.


Exactly. These forced birthers really don't have much standing to lecture anyone about bodily autonomy. What a hypocrite.
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What a slimeball. No way.
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Anonymous wrote:Great, another Republican businessman with no experience in government - didn't we learn from our last mistake?

And for those who think this makes him somehow better than an experienced politician, it doesn't. The functions of government and the politics behind it require an experienced hand to navigate; government doesn't operate like a corporation, nor should it.


While this is all true, it starts to fall on deaf ears when you get "experienced" duds like Biden in. The reason a Reality TV star like Trump and a longtime DC outsider, non-entity like Sanders surged in 2016 is because people got fed up with what "experience" was serving up for them.


DP. I'm way more likely to vote for one of these "outsiders" than most of DCUM, but when people start telling me that the outsider candidates are Ivy League education millionaires and billionaires, it sets off /my bullshit meter.


I actually agree with you on this, but I also view it as an almost structural impediment in and indictment of our political system. Tough to see a truly grassroots candidate rise to that level and get enough traction to be on a debate stage without being similarly "credentialed". Yang barely scraped it, but he also fits the same profile. There is just way too much money in politics.


I think Yang is very precisely the analog to Ramaswamy here. Young, rich, no experience in government, and with a signature proposal that's never going to happen but grabs attention.


What's Vivek's signature proposal? The voting thing? Or affirmative action?


I was thinking of the proposal to change the voting age.


Ok gotcha. Yeah, not likely, but it is also a proxy and touch point for civic mindedness, national identity, "America first", pioneering spirit, "merit" and other themes that animate a number of other things that come out of his mouth.

Recall Ann Coulters quip about Trump "They like your ideas, but not you". But yeah inexperience is a big stick people will hit him with, along with being an elite, and probably his otherness (vegetarian, Hindu, etc.)


About the voting age thing, have we ever thrown out an Amendment to the Constitution within 55 years? Only Prohibition comes to mind.

Mr. R became a billionaire via the pharmaceutical industry. Since when are these guys honest actors? Anyone remember the Sacklers?

I have white hot hatred for Mr R due to his comments on Gay and Trans youth.


Lots of articles about how he scammily made his millions in pharma. He's a finance guy, not a scientist. It has Holmsian echos.


Oliver Wendell Holmes is one of the greatest legal minds this country has ever seen. Vivek is brilliant, but not that brilliant. Calm it down a bit!


Pretty sure you know that isn't the Holmes being referenced in a discussion about biotech.
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He’s sounding as sane as Robert F Kennedy Junior. At least RFK JR can claim his past addiction to heroin fried his brain. Republicans sure know how to pick them!
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Vivek, young Vivek.
Ramaswamy,
We love to say Ramaswamy,
We say it just like that, Ramaswamy.

They tell me he's an untouchable,
So I'm not gonna touch him.

But that's OK,
That's OK.


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He will have a huge week and be a lead story.
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