Why so much anger towards people on welfare?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reasons why we hate the poor:

Life time on state aid..
Health insurance
Food stamps
Housing
Education
Monthly cash

Add anything I miss on my list. Then you wonder why people have such hatred toward a group of people or we feel obligated to support for life. GTFO

Who do you think cleans your house? Drives your kids to school? Delivers your packages? Cleans your child’s school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reasons why we hate the poor:

Life time on state aid..
Health insurance
Food stamps
Housing
Education
Monthly cash

Add anything I miss on my list. Then you wonder why people have such hatred toward a group of people or we feel obligated to support for life. GTFO

You’re free to relinquish all your belongings and join them. What’s stopping you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reasons why we hate the poor:

Life time on state aid..
Health insurance
Food stamps
Housing
Education
Monthly cash

Add anything I miss on my list. Then you wonder why people have such hatred toward a group of people or we feel obligated to support for life. GTFO

Yep they’re living it up: https://citylimits.org/2023/02/13/wait-times-for-nycha-apartments-doubled-last-year-as-number-of-vacant-units-climb/

[Anonymous]

I want to know what this “monthly cash” and “free housing” pp is referring to is!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reasons why we hate the poor:

Life time on state aid..
Health insurance
Food stamps
Housing
Education
Monthly cash

Add anything I miss on my list. Then you wonder why people have such hatred toward a group of people or we feel obligated to support for life. GTFO

Would you rather those people beg on the streets in desperation?

Understand that policy is made not based on how people should behave, but on how they tend to. No “should.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the Midwest in the 1970s, in the urban core. My mother was a SAHM. My father was self-employed. They struggled to make ends meet. When we went to the grocery store, my mother would sometimes comment after we left, how full the grocery carts would be of the people using food stamps (no EBT card at the time). And how they usually bought junk my mother couldn't afford to buy. And they had more children, sometimes in diapers and no shoes. And they would buy cigarettes. I think the buying of the cigarettes was the kicker. LoL. Lots of judgment.

Maybe they shopped once or twice a month; no wonder the carts were full. Junk food is cheaper, has more packaging around it, lasts longer. I was an Au Pair in Maryland for a lovely middle class educated people. They bought so much crap for their children and you expect lower class people know better. Their diets have been corrupted from infancy.
More children? Maybe they didn't have birth control, maybe they needed them to feel love. Raising kids is not easy, but they had need for them that was clearly stronger than thinking how hard the next 18-20 years would be.
Cigarettes? Everyone smoked in 70s.
I judge you, because you saw better and you know better. Since you are so much better and know better, you should know exactly why the poor behave the way they do. They can't help it really. I few can. There's a good movie quote that goes something like that,' first you make thieves and then you punish them'. So, first the society creates poor people, keep them poor for generation and punish them for that.

I want to agree with you but I grew up in a lower class environment, think mother took in laundry to earn extra food dollars. I got a job as soon as I could and contributed to the family budget, but somehow managed to get myself through college and come out stronger and financially comfortable. My observation from the neighborhood I grew up in, pure f g laziness. No excuse for an 18 year old girl to sit on her parents door steps all day rather than finding job. Not one excuse. Yet I witnessed this throughout my early years and was especially in tune with it in my teen years. Sodas and bags of chips (we never had those, because we did not have extra money for junk food in our grocery cart), the young poor people in my neighborhood would walk to the local store, grab some snacks and sit in front of their houses laughing at us coming and going to our jobs, be it a babysitter or whatever. Laziness, just pure f g laziness, well that, and knowing they could suck off tax paying idiots for the rest of their soulless lives. No sympathy from me whatsoever.

Your story reminds me of growing up. I was LMC but my parents managed to save enough to send me to state college. I was the kid that wore Caldor’s (discount department store) clothes and sneakers. When we went to the mall and asked to get a soda because we were thirsty? They said “we have soda at home, you can use the water fountain.” A rare treat was fast food or a subway sandwich. I worked multiple jobs. But now, nobody wants to live like this or it’s some great injustice that a kid would have grow up like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reasons why we hate the poor:

Life time on state aid..
Health insurance
Food stamps
Housing
Education
Monthly cash

Add anything I miss on my list. Then you wonder why people have such hatred toward a group of people or we feel obligated to support for life. GTFO

I can tell from the way you write that you are very educated. In fact…Im guessing you grew up using many of these services, no? At the very least, your public school education was subsidized by the taxpayers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to know what this “monthly cash” and “free housing” pp is referring to is!

Right? The list reads like a GOP fever dream

[Anonymous]

There aren’t such social services in Kenya, Ethiopia, Ghana, Venezuela or the Philippines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep pp hit it on the nose. The cashier is mad because they are a cashier and needs to lord it over someone.

At least the cashier is working and doing a job.

I'm not saying OP could be working but uses welfare as an excuse to not work, but there are absolutely many many people who are capable of working, but would rather be paid (via welfare) to not work.

There are of course some people who legitimately cannot work and need welfare.

Why do you think working is a virtue? Serious question.

Why don’t you think it’s a virtue is a better question? Lots of people go to jobs they hate. Guess why? Because they aren’t lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the Midwest in the 1970s, in the urban core. My mother was a SAHM. My father was self-employed. They struggled to make ends meet. When we went to the grocery store, my mother would sometimes comment after we left, how full the grocery carts would be of the people using food stamps (no EBT card at the time). And how they usually bought junk my mother couldn't afford to buy. And they had more children, sometimes in diapers and no shoes. And they would buy cigarettes. I think the buying of the cigarettes was the kicker. LoL. Lots of judgment.

Maybe they shopped once or twice a month; no wonder the carts were full. Junk food is cheaper, has more packaging around it, lasts longer. I was an Au Pair in Maryland for a lovely middle class educated people. They bought so much crap for their children and you expect lower class people know better. Their diets have been corrupted from infancy.
More children? Maybe they didn't have birth control, maybe they needed them to feel love. Raising kids is not easy, but they had need for them that was clearly stronger than thinking how hard the next 18-20 years would be.
Cigarettes? Everyone smoked in 70s.
I judge you, because you saw better and you know better. Since you are so much better and know better, you should know exactly why the poor behave the way they do. They can't help it really. I few can. There's a good movie quote that goes something like that,' first you make thieves and then you punish them'. So, first the society creates poor people, keep them poor for generation and punish them for that.

I want to agree with you but I grew up in a lower class environment, think mother took in laundry to earn extra food dollars. I got a job as soon as I could and contributed to the family budget, but somehow managed to get myself through college and come out stronger and financially comfortable. My observation from the neighborhood I grew up in, pure f g laziness. No excuse for an 18 year old girl to sit on her parents door steps all day rather than finding job. Not one excuse. Yet I witnessed this throughout my early years and was especially in tune with it in my teen years. Sodas and bags of chips (we never had those, because we did not have extra money for junk food in our grocery cart), the young poor people in my neighborhood would walk to the local store, grab some snacks and sit in front of their houses laughing at us coming and going to our jobs, be it a babysitter or whatever. Laziness, just pure f g laziness, well that, and knowing they could suck off tax paying idiots for the rest of their soulless lives. No sympathy from me whatsoever.

Your story reminds me of growing up. I was LMC but my parents managed to save enough to send me to state college. I was the kid that wore Caldor’s (discount department store) clothes and sneakers. When we went to the mall and asked to get a soda because we were thirsty? They said “we have soda at home, you can use the water fountain.” A rare treat was fast food or a subway sandwich. I worked multiple jobs. But now, nobody wants to live like this or it’s some great injustice that a kid would have grow up like this.

How old are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep pp hit it on the nose. The cashier is mad because they are a cashier and needs to lord it over someone.

At least the cashier is working and doing a job.

I'm not saying OP could be working but uses welfare as an excuse to not work, but there are absolutely many many people who are capable of working, but would rather be paid (via welfare) to not work.

There are of course some people who legitimately cannot work and need welfare.

Why do you think working is a virtue? Serious question.

Why don’t you think it’s a virtue is a better question? Lots of people go to jobs they hate. Guess why? Because they aren’t lazy.

NP. Then I guess the working poor, who are working the hardest, shittiest jobs of all for the least pay, are surely the most virtuous?

[Anonymous]

Your story reminds me of growing up. I was LMC but my parents managed to save enough to send me to state college. I was the kid that wore Caldor’s (discount department store) clothes and sneakers. When we went to the mall and asked to get a soda because we were thirsty? They said “we have soda at home, you can use the water fountain.” A rare treat was fast food or a subway sandwich. I worked multiple jobs. But now, nobody wants to live like this or it’s some great injustice that a kid would have grow up like this.

I work with kids experiencing poverty, and I assure you, plenty of kids are living like this and often much worse off.

[Anonymous]

It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Your story reminds me of growing up. I was LMC but my parents managed to save enough to send me to state college. I was the kid that wore Caldor’s (discount department store) clothes and sneakers. When we went to the mall and asked to get a soda because we were thirsty? They said “we have soda at home, you can use the water fountain.” A rare treat was fast food or a subway sandwich. I worked multiple jobs. But now, nobody wants to live like this or it’s some great injustice that a kid would have grow up like this.

I work with kids experiencing poverty, and I assure you, plenty of kids are living like this and often much worse off.

+1.