Why so much anger towards people on welfare?

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

Welp, lemme just go ahead and apply this thread’s logic to that anecdote…yeah, looks like every disabled veteran is a thieving fraud 👍

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

Welp, lemme just go ahead and apply this thread’s logic to that anecdote…yeah, looks like every disabled veteran is a thieving fraud 👍

The GOP turned their backs on the military long ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

Welp, lemme just go ahead and apply this thread’s logic to that anecdote…yeah, looks like every disabled veteran is a thieving fraud 👍

The GOP turned their backs on the military long ago.[/quote

+1 The Dems messaging that they care more about trans athletes than members of our military is really bad.

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

Welp, lemme just go ahead and apply this thread’s logic to that anecdote…yeah, looks like every disabled veteran is a thieving fraud 👍

The GOP turned their backs on the military long ago.[/quote

+1 The Dems messaging that they care more about trans athletes than members of our military is really bad.

What are you talking about? Just because the GOP says Dems care more about trans people than military, doesn’t make it true. Dems actually care about multiple groups at once, which is weird for you, I know, because the GOP only cares about white men.

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

Welp, lemme just go ahead and apply this thread’s logic to that anecdote…yeah, looks like every disabled veteran is a thieving fraud 👍

The GOP turned their backs on the military long ago.

+1 The Dems messaging that they care more about trans athletes than members of our military is really bad.

What are you talking about? Just because the GOP says Dems care more about trans people than military, doesn’t make it true. Dems actually care about multiple groups at once, which is weird for you, I know, because the GOP only cares about white men.

[Anonymous]

When you grow up in low income communities, you see how many scammers there are. They know how to play the system and they learn and see others doing it as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you grow up in low income communities, you see how many scammers there are. They know how to play the system and they learn and see others doing it as well.

I grew up in one and didn’t see this at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I worked in a hospital where tons of patients were on all sorts of assistance yet somehow had the latest $800 phone and other accessories like nail tips done at a salon. Didn't add up... Not everyone was like that but there was obviously some abuse of the system going on.

Yes, the poor in this country live lives of crazy luxury… do you hear yourself?! The abuse has been well studied it’s an extremely small percentage of the whole. Perhaps those folks got gifts for their birthday or bought an expensive phone at a pawn shop? Perhaps her sister does nails? I mean come on now. I’m embarrassed that you are so petty and begrudge a poor person one nice thing.

I should pick your lifestyle markers apart.

Or... There was actual abuse of the system going on. The worst case I still recall was one lady who would come in at 10pm, have us sign her visitation paper (she got money for each visit), stay for 10 min then head out to the club, never to be seen until the same time the next night. Meanwhile her baby was vented and fighting for its life. This went on for several months until the poor baby sadly passed away without anybody there except staff. We heard the lady got arrested a few months later for fraud- she apparently never told the welfare office the baby passed away and was trying to continue collecting benefits. So take a seat there, friend.

Please tell me which government benefit pays a mom for visiting her child in the hospital? What's it called?

It was over a decade ago, but likely Medicaid Medical Transportation. The benefit often far exceeded the actual cost of round trip travel so some of these families (NOT ALL) would basically just pocket the difference on a daily basis. It's not illegal, but staying just 5-10 min. isn't exactly the intended use either and I do consider it to be abuse.

Yes, my mom worked at a hospital and used to seethe at the misuse of Medicaid Medical Transportation. People would have “chest pains”, hang out for an hour, walk to close by ships, then get transported home with their purchases. It was a taxpayer-subsidized taxi service. Multiple families (not all families) did this regularly.

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

Welp, lemme just go ahead and apply this thread’s logic to that anecdote…yeah, looks like every disabled veteran is a thieving fraud 👍

The GOP turned their backs on the military long ago.[/quote

+1 The Dems messaging that they care more about trans athletes than members of our military is really bad.

What are you talking about? Just because the GOP says Dems care more about trans people than military, doesn’t make it true. Dems actually care about multiple groups at once, which is weird for you, I know, because the GOP only cares about white men.

You should own your poor messaging and tactics instead of blaming the GOP. Tough to think critically and take responsibility when you're a member of a political party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The utter contempt and loathing for the working poor on this thread is really something else.

It really is.

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Anonymous wrote:I worked in a hospital where tons of patients were on all sorts of assistance yet somehow had the latest $800 phone and other accessories like nail tips done at a salon. Didn't add up... Not everyone was like that but there was obviously some abuse of the system going on.

Yes, the poor in this country live lives of crazy luxury… do you hear yourself?! The abuse has been well studied it’s an extremely small percentage of the whole. Perhaps those folks got gifts for their birthday or bought an expensive phone at a pawn shop? Perhaps her sister does nails? I mean come on now. I’m embarrassed that you are so petty and begrudge a poor person one nice thing.

I should pick your lifestyle markers apart.

Or... There was actual abuse of the system going on. The worst case I still recall was one lady who would come in at 10pm, have us sign her visitation paper (she got money for each visit), stay for 10 min then head out to the club, never to be seen until the same time the next night. Meanwhile her baby was vented and fighting for its life. This went on for several months until the poor baby sadly passed away without anybody there except staff. We heard the lady got arrested a few months later for fraud- she apparently never told the welfare office the baby passed away and was trying to continue collecting benefits. So take a seat there, friend.

Please tell me which government benefit pays a mom for visiting her child in the hospital? What's it called?

It was over a decade ago, but likely Medicaid Medical Transportation. The benefit often far exceeded the actual cost of round trip travel so some of these families (NOT ALL) would basically just pocket the difference on a daily basis. It's not illegal, but staying just 5-10 min. isn't exactly the intended use either and I do consider it to be abuse.

Yes, my mom worked at a hospital and used to seethe at the misuse of Medicaid Medical Transportation. People would have “chest pains”, hang out for an hour, walk to close by ships, then get transported home with their purchases. It was a taxpayer-subsidized taxi service. Multiple families (not all families) did this regularly.

So based on that you want to cut everyone? I hope they cut the mortgage deduction because of all the mortgage abuse during 2008.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

Welp, lemme just go ahead and apply this thread’s logic to that anecdote…yeah, looks like every disabled veteran is a thieving fraud 👍

The GOP turned their backs on the military long ago.[/quote

+1 The Dems messaging that they care more about trans athletes than members of our military is really bad.

What are you talking about? Just because the GOP says Dems care more about trans people than military, doesn’t make it true. Dems actually care about multiple groups at once, which is weird for you, I know, because the GOP only cares about white men.

You should own your poor messaging and tactics instead of blaming the GOP. Tough to think critically and take responsibility when you're a member of a political party.

Well the GOP has destroyed medical care for women. They suck. I don’t need to defend the Dems because they’re the only respectable party in town. Too bad you’re too caught up in your victimhood to grow a pair and stand up for what is right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

Welp, lemme just go ahead and apply this thread’s logic to that anecdote…yeah, looks like every disabled veteran is a thieving fraud 👍

The GOP turned their backs on the military long ago.[/quote

+1 The Dems messaging that they care more about trans athletes than members of our military is really bad.

What are you talking about? Just because the GOP says Dems care more about trans people than military, doesn’t make it true. Dems actually care about multiple groups at once, which is weird for you, I know, because the GOP only cares about white men.

You should own your poor messaging and tactics instead of blaming the GOP. Tough to think critically and take responsibility when you're a member of a political party.

Well the GOP has destroyed medical care for women. They suck. I don’t need to defend the Dems because they’re the only respectable party in town. Too bad you’re too caught up in your victimhood to grow a pair and stand up for what is right.

Amen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you grow up in low income communities, you see how many scammers there are. They know how to play the system and they learn and see others doing it as well.

I'm rich, grew up rich, and know plenty of scammers in my circle. Trust me, rich folks know how to play the system. My personal accountant helps me every year to pay the very least I can pay in taxes. And I know plenty of people richer than me who hide assets and pay even less. Scamming happens at every socio-economic level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny that more than one poster actually believes the fraud rate for these programs to be at 1%.

It's like the fraud rate for PTSD benefits. I know several veterans receiving generous disability benefits who never saw a single day of combat, yet it's impossible to prove they don't have PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraud rate is at least 25%.

+1. There are some poor towns where the “disability” rate for adult men is over 30%. Yep, no fraud there!