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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps some of the deniers here need to actually view the video DeSantis put out to dispel the myth of banning books. This shows exactly the types of books that were - correctly - removed from public school libraries.

https://www.flgov.com/2023/03/08/governor-ron-desantis-debunks-book-ban-hoax/


Skeptical of this. Which libraries? How many copies, and of which books? Is there evidence of the book actually being ordered by school librarians, and cataloged in the school library's card catalog, or was it planted there? I saw nothing to conclusively prove anything other than that the books exist.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?


You're going to dig your heels in for a fake news site?
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?


You're going to dig your heels in for a fake news site?


Do you honestly think they faked those pictures? Or pulled them from a different site? And what makes it fake news?
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Those pictures only prove that such a book exists. Where is the evidence that it is "stocked in schools all across Iowa?" What percentage of libraries carry it? Do they actually even carry it at all? If you can't specifically answer those questions then I have to call into question the legitimacy of the hysteria around it.


I have to call into question your level of intelligence if you can't grasp that this book was indeed carried in school libraries across the country. The video from DeSantis shows these images, and others from other equally inappropriate books and lists the Florida counties in which they were found in school libraries. I'm afraid you're just going to have to go sulk in the corner with your copies of pornographic "kids" books.
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I have to call into question YOUR intelligence and critical thinking skills, because you are taking it on faith, without adequate evidence, that the book is widespread in school libraries all across America. I have NOT seen actual evidence that they were actually found in Florida or Iowa libraries, that evidence falls woefully short. Again, I'm not disputing that the books exist, I need to see more evidence that the books were actually ordered by school librarians, cataloged in their card catalogs, and that their presence was widespread across a multitude of schools. The evidence for THAT does not exist. All you have is claims - as though we're supposed to believe right wing activists on their word.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?


You're going to dig your heels in for a fake news site?


Do you honestly think they faked those pictures? Or pulled them from a different site? And what makes it fake news?


Don't be obtuse. Nobody ever said the pictures themselves were "fake." What's being questioned is the lack of actual evidence that the book was ordered by and cataloged in school libraries all across Iowa. The article provides exactly zero proof of that.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


It literally has pictures from this book - pictures that have also been all over the internet before. Have you been living under a rock?
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


Wow. Their Iowa Standard front page carries no less than 8 headlines peddling hysteria over trans issues. And a half dozen more about homosexuality and gay marriage. They are a bit obsessed.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?


You're going to dig your heels in for a fake news site?


DP. Here, hon. The NYT wasn't brave enough to post the pictures, but they allude to them in this article:

"Many of the book’s critics seized on a handful of explicit images that illustrate Kobabe’s evolving understanding of gender and sexuality as a teenager and young adult, including a drawing of Kobabe and a girlfriend experimenting with a strap-on sex toy, and another of Kobabe fantasizing about two men having sex."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/01/books/maia-kobabe-gender-queer-book-ban.html
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


It literally has pictures from this book - pictures that have also been all over the internet before. Have you been living under a rock?


Yeah so what. For the 4th time, nobody has denied the book existed.

Now prove that this book was actually widespread across libraries as claimed. How many libraries had it? Did they actually purchase copies of it and log it in their book catalog? Or did some activist just plant a copy there? I see no evidence to prove it either way.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?


You're going to dig your heels in for a fake news site?


DP. Here, hon. The NYT wasn't brave enough to post the pictures, but they allude to them in this article:

"Many of the book’s critics seized on a handful of explicit images that illustrate Kobabe’s evolving understanding of gender and sexuality as a teenager and young adult, including a drawing of Kobabe and a girlfriend experimenting with a strap-on sex toy, and another of Kobabe fantasizing about two men having sex."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/01/books/maia-kobabe-gender-queer-book-ban.html


Wow. You are REALLY SLOW to understand what's being said here. Either that or willfully obtuse to the most ludicrous level imaginable.

Now, for the FIFTH time, nobody has denied the book existed.

Now prove that this book was actually ordered and stocked by school librarians in a widespread manner as claimed.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


It literally has pictures from this book - pictures that have also been all over the internet before. Have you been living under a rock?


Yeah so what. For the 4th time, nobody has denied the book existed.

Now prove that this book was actually widespread across libraries as claimed. How many libraries had it? Did they actually purchase copies of it and log it in their book catalog? Or did some activist just plant a copy there? I see no evidence to prove it either way.


So Youngkin has banned a book that no library has ordered? I don't see a problem then.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.


You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?


+1
In the face of proof that these pornographic images are indeed in Gender Queer (and other books), the poster is now moving the goalposts to demand a different source. Too bad the WaPo and NYT - two sources I'm sure the PP would approve of - don't have the guts to display these pictures.
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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps some of the deniers here need to actually view the video DeSantis put out to dispel the myth of banning books. This shows exactly the types of books that were - correctly - removed from public school libraries.

https://www.flgov.com/2023/03/08/governor-ron-desantis-debunks-book-ban-hoax/


Skeptical of this. Which libraries? How many copies, and of which books? Is there evidence of the book actually being ordered by school librarians, and cataloged in the school library's card catalog, or was it planted there? I saw nothing to conclusively prove anything other than that the books exist.



Nice trolling. Now that you've been painted into a corner, you're moving those goalposts. We see you.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.


DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp


Those pictures only prove that such a book exists. Where is the evidence that it is "stocked in schools all across Iowa?" What percentage of libraries carry it? Do they actually even carry it at all? If you can't specifically answer those questions then I have to call into question the legitimacy of the hysteria around it.


I have to call into question your level of intelligence if you can't grasp that this book was indeed carried in school libraries across the country. The video from DeSantis shows these images, and others from other equally inappropriate books and lists the Florida counties in which they were found in school libraries. I'm afraid you're just going to have to go sulk in the corner with your copies of pornographic "kids" books.
DP


I have to call into question YOUR intelligence and critical thinking skills, because you are taking it on faith, without adequate evidence, that the book is widespread in school libraries all across America. I have NOT seen actual evidence that they were actually found in Florida or Iowa libraries, that evidence falls woefully short. Again, I'm not disputing that the books exist, I need to see more evidence that the books were actually ordered by school librarians, cataloged in their card catalogs, and that their presence was widespread across a multitude of schools. The evidence for THAT does not exist. All you have is claims - as though we're supposed to believe right wing activists on their word.


I guess your googling skills are really poor. And you also appear to have zero access to the news. I'm done doing your research for you.

Then, last year, the book’s frank grappling with gender identity and sexuality began generating headlines around the country. Dozens of schools pulled it from library shelves. Republican officials in North and South Carolina, Texas and Virginia called for the book’s removal, sometimes labeling it “pornographic.”

The award brought “Gender Queer” to the attention of librarians across the country, who often look to such prizes when deciding what books to order. High schools and some middle school libraries around the country began stocking it. Currently, on Amazon, it’s listed as appropriate for ages 18 and up; on Barnes & Noble’s website, it’s recommended for readers 15 and older.

The book was banned in dozens of school districts and removed from libraries across the country, including Alaska, Iowa, Texas and Pennsylvania.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/01/books/maia-kobabe-gender-queer-book-ban.html
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