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Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.

Why not? In the Sex Ed. course both my teens took, how to properly have heterosexual intercourse was discussed (consent, emotions, precautions like condoms & other birth control, lubricants).

Why should cis-het teens be instructed properly and not LGBTQ teens?

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Anonymous wrote:Ban the Bible. It’s filled with absolute filth.

Do public high schools even have the Bible in their libraries? I don’t know if they do.

Yes, they have a Religion section with the Bible and copies of other religious texts.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.

Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.

Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.

"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"

I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.

So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.

Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?

"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.

And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?

Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?

This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.

Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.

Why do kids need sex manuals?

Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.

"Logistics?" Why do they need information about "logistics?"

Have you ever had trouble working through your own sexuality or gender?

Have you ever come out?

Have you ever had gay sex?

1) It's helpful to have those things normalized.
2) Some tips might actually be helpful.

Normalizing teens having gay sex, or any kind of sex, is not something that schools should be doing.
If you want your teen to have sex, gay or otherwise, go for it.
Let's have our schools teach English, mathematics, history, science, etc.

See, that's where you're completely wrong. Your opinion about this isn't valid. In fact, it's your invalid opinion that completely validates WHY schools need to intervene in this area, otherwise they're getting their (misinformation) or no information from people like you. And then you end up with your 17 yo son knocking up his 15 yo girlfriend and you're forced to go out and profess that this disaster is a blessing for your family.

DP. Hmm. I don't recall anyone saying basic reproductive sex ed not be taught in schools, but nice strawman. Bravo.

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Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.

Why not? In the Sex Ed. course both my teens took, how to properly have heterosexual intercourse was discussed (consent, emotions, precautions like condoms & other birth control, lubricants).

Why should cis-het teens be instructed properly and not LGBTQ teens?

You are welcome to teach your kids how to have anal intercourse. Most parents would consider that inappropriate in school.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the kind of crap going on in schools. Sure, it was Oregon this time. But, don't think similar stuff isn't going on in a school near you.

The Eugene School District 4J said it has since pulled the assignment from its syllabus, but further scrutiny into the health class revealed that students also had been given the “With Whom Would You Do It?” assignment.

That February assignment involved a virtual spinning wheel labeled with sexual categories that students needed to respond to when the wheel stopped.

“My daughter was very, very, very uncomfortable in the classroom,” dad Justin McCall told KEZ of the February classwork. “Especially when [the teacher] put up the generated spinning wheel, and it had anal penetration and oral sex up there. Her and her best friend did not participate in that. But they still got graded.”

Nothing wrong with this! This is wholesome and something every student should be learning about/writing about/being instructed about! What's the problem?!?

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ Relax. The children were told there was to be "no penetration of any kind or oral sex." This is clearly age-appropriate.

OMG. I sincerely hope this was satire.

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Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.

Why not? In the Sex Ed. course both my teens took, how to properly have heterosexual intercourse was discussed (consent, emotions, precautions like condoms & other birth control, lubricants).

Why should cis-het teens be instructed properly and not LGBTQ teens?

Because heterosexual intercourse is how the species procreates, thus making it a part of science and biology. That is the only role of "sex education" in schools.

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Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.

Why not? In the Sex Ed. course both my teens took, how to properly have heterosexual intercourse was discussed (consent, emotions, precautions like condoms & other birth control, lubricants).

Why should cis-het teens be instructed properly and not LGBTQ teens?

You are welcome to teach your kids how to have anal intercourse. Most parents would consider that inappropriate in school.

Seriously. I can't even believe the IQ level of these posters. JFC.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Those pictures only prove that such a book exists. Where is the evidence that it is "stocked in schools all across Iowa?" What percentage of libraries carry it? Do they actually even carry it at all? If you can't specifically answer those questions then I have to call into question the legitimacy of the hysteria around it.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps some of the deniers here need to actually view the video DeSantis put out to dispel the myth of banning books. This shows exactly the types of books that were - correctly - removed from public school libraries.

https://www.flgov.com/2023/03/08/governor-ron-desantis-debunks-book-ban-hoax/

God, I feel sick to my stomach after having watched that video.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Those pictures only prove that such a book exists. Where is the evidence that it is "stocked in schools all across Iowa?" What percentage of libraries carry it? Do they actually even carry it at all? If you can't specifically answer those questions then I have to call into question the legitimacy of the hysteria around it.

I have to call into question your level of intelligence if you can't grasp that this book was indeed carried in school libraries across the country. The video from DeSantis shows these images, and others from other equally inappropriate books and lists the Florida counties in which they were found in school libraries. I'm afraid you're just going to have to go sulk in the corner with your copies of pornographic "kids" books.
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Threads like this, as grotesque as they are, prove to be extremely useful in illustrating the left's agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.

Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.

Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.

"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"

I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.

So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.

Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?

"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.

And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?

Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?

This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.

Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.

Why do kids need sex manuals?

Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.

"Logistics?" Why do they need information about "logistics?"

Have you ever had trouble working through your own sexuality or gender?

Have you ever come out?

Have you ever had gay sex?

1) It's helpful to have those things normalized.
2) Some tips might actually be helpful.

Normalizing teens having gay sex, or any kind of sex, is not something that schools should be doing.
If you want your teen to have sex, gay or otherwise, go for it.
Let's have our schools teach English, mathematics, history, science, etc.

See, that's where you're completely wrong. Your opinion about this isn't valid. In fact, it's your invalid opinion that completely validates WHY schools need to intervene in this area, otherwise they're getting their (misinformation) or no information from people like you. And then you end up with your 17 yo son knocking up his 15 yo girlfriend and you're forced to go out and profess that this disaster is a blessing for your family.

Who TF do you think you are?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.

Why not? In the Sex Ed. course both my teens took, how to properly have heterosexual intercourse was discussed (consent, emotions, precautions like condoms & other birth control, lubricants).

Why should cis-het teens be instructed properly and not LGBTQ teens?

Because heterosexual intercourse is how the species procreates, thus making it a part of science and biology. That is the only role of "sex education" in schools.

This is exactly it.