Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?

Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.

Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?

Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.

No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!

Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?

Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.

if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.

I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!

What makes you think that every woman who had a problem getting an abortion published her story?

Are you saying it's reasonable for women to have to travel fo other states to receive this care? How are they supposed to afford that? Time off, hotels, waiting periods, plus the cost of the procedure?

Here
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

And this https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/health/abortion-texas-sepsis/index.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/texas-woman-describes-ordeal-with-state-abortion-law-after-miscarriage

and here https://time.com/6208860/ohio-woman-forced-travel-abortion/

And here's a whole collection! https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/abortion/federal-and-state-bans-and-restrictions-abortion/20-week-bans/personal-stories-reveal-how-20-week-abortion-bans-would-hurt-wom

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1) Elizabeth was released from the hospital. Off they go to another nearby state that allowed abortion. She was not in dire straits. She just wanted one.

2) Amanda could have driven with her husband the 8 hours to another state. They chose not to.

3) Marlena was giving the pill. She chose not to go that route.

4) Tara could have gone to another state. She tried Michigan. Go to CO or CA. She had time.

5) Don’t hand me planned parenthood stories and expect they won’t be biased.

Republicans: so you have to travel out of state for a procedure, and spend one or two nights, take off extra days of work, find someone to babysit overnight. No biggie.

Showing themselves to be the elitists that they are.

All were given in-state choices. They just didn’t like them

Watching you work so hard to try to be OK with abortion rights being taken away is fascinating. And sad.

It is what it is. Just own it. You voted for the forced birthers. You must be OK with that. Too late now.

I think we should think long and hard at the ease in which we terminate a life. Notice how none of these stories start with “Sarah is 22, has multiple partners by choice, and sometimes skips her birth control. She’s found out she’s pregnant and is not ready to have a child….” Reason? Because that would bring up very uncomfortable questions. And that is the majority reason why someone seeks out abortion.

Ok. Let’s look “long and hard” at 22 year old Sara with multiple partners and an inconsistent use of birth control. Is it in the best interests of Sara to have a child? If she’s not great at taking birth control why do you think she’s going to be great at taking prenatals?

Basically does your argument boil down to Sara should be legally required to give birth…because she didn’t take a pill every day? Does that make any kind of sense to you? That a child should be raised by a 22 year old (guessing single mother because of your multiple partners comment) in adverse economic conditions because that will show her?

Whose interests do you serve here? It’s not Sara’s. It’s not the child’s. It’s not the states because they’ll be paying for the healthcare and the education and the early intervention. It’s just the interest of…controlling women?

Sara created another life. There are responsibilities that go with behavior. I knew at least a few Saras when I was in college who had multiple abortions. I’d like to see the Saras of this world not be considered victims.

DP. There’s nothing objectionable about Sara having an abortion if she doesn’t want to be a mother, whether she “created a life” or not. It’s her body that will have to incubate it, and it’s her choice to do it or not to do it. At the time she’d have the abortion, it’s a fetus, not a person.

That’s your opinion. Sara is not a victim.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?

Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.

Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?

Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.

No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!

Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?

Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.

if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.

I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!

What makes you think that every woman who had a problem getting an abortion published her story?

Are you saying it's reasonable for women to have to travel fo other states to receive this care? How are they supposed to afford that? Time off, hotels, waiting periods, plus the cost of the procedure?

Here
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

And this https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/health/abortion-texas-sepsis/index.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/texas-woman-describes-ordeal-with-state-abortion-law-after-miscarriage

and here https://time.com/6208860/ohio-woman-forced-travel-abortion/

And here's a whole collection! https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/abortion/federal-and-state-bans-and-restrictions-abortion/20-week-bans/personal-stories-reveal-how-20-week-abortion-bans-would-hurt-wom

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1) Elizabeth was released from the hospital. Off they go to another nearby state that allowed abortion. She was not in dire straits. She just wanted one.

2) Amanda could have driven with her husband the 8 hours to another state. They chose not to.

3) Marlena was giving the pill. She chose not to go that route.

4) Tara could have gone to another state. She tried Michigan. Go to CO or CA. She had time.

5) Don’t hand me planned parenthood stories and expect they won’t be biased.

Republicans: so you have to travel out of state for a procedure, and spend one or two nights, take off extra days of work, find someone to babysit overnight. No biggie.

Showing themselves to be the elitists that they are.

All were given in-state choices. They just didn’t like them

Watching you work so hard to try to be OK with abortion rights being taken away is fascinating. And sad.

It is what it is. Just own it. You voted for the forced birthers. You must be OK with that. Too late now.

I think we should think long and hard at the ease in which we terminate a life. Notice how none of these stories start with “Sarah is 22, has multiple partners by choice, and sometimes skips her birth control. She’s found out she’s pregnant and is not ready to have a child….” Reason? Because that would bring up very uncomfortable questions. And that is the majority reason why someone seeks out abortion.

Ok. Let’s look “long and hard” at 22 year old Sara with multiple partners and an inconsistent use of birth control. Is it in the best interests of Sara to have a child? If she’s not great at taking birth control why do you think she’s going to be great at taking prenatals?

Basically does your argument boil down to Sara should be legally required to give birth…because she didn’t take a pill every day? Does that make any kind of sense to you? That a child should be raised by a 22 year old (guessing single mother because of your multiple partners comment) in adverse economic conditions because that will show her?

Whose interests do you serve here? It’s not Sara’s. It’s not the child’s. It’s not the states because they’ll be paying for the healthcare and the education and the early intervention. It’s just the interest of…controlling women?

Sara created another life. There are responsibilities that go with behavior. I knew at least a few Saras when I was in college who had multiple abortions. I’d like to see the Saras of this world not be considered victims.

DP. There’s nothing objectionable about Sara having an abortion if she doesn’t want to be a mother, whether she “created a life” or not. It’s her body that will have to incubate it, and it’s her choice to do it or not to do it. At the time she’d have the abortion, it’s a fetus, not a person.

That’s your opinion. Sara is not a victim.

Sara needs to have the right to an abortion even if she decides to carry the pregnancy and wants to give birth, there are many things that can go wrong with a pregnancy. This nonsense that a women gets a positive pregnancy test and then that's that a perfectly developed baby just pops out 9 months later needs to stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?

Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.

Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?

Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.

No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!

Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?

Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.

if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.

I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!

What makes you think that every woman who had a problem getting an abortion published her story?

Are you saying it's reasonable for women to have to travel fo other states to receive this care? How are they supposed to afford that? Time off, hotels, waiting periods, plus the cost of the procedure?

Here
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

And this https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/health/abortion-texas-sepsis/index.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/texas-woman-describes-ordeal-with-state-abortion-law-after-miscarriage

and here https://time.com/6208860/ohio-woman-forced-travel-abortion/

And here's a whole collection! https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/abortion/federal-and-state-bans-and-restrictions-abortion/20-week-bans/personal-stories-reveal-how-20-week-abortion-bans-would-hurt-wom

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1) Elizabeth was released from the hospital. Off they go to another nearby state that allowed abortion. She was not in dire straits. She just wanted one.

2) Amanda could have driven with her husband the 8 hours to another state. They chose not to.

3) Marlena was giving the pill. She chose not to go that route.

4) Tara could have gone to another state. She tried Michigan. Go to CO or CA. She had time.

5) Don’t hand me planned parenthood stories and expect they won’t be biased.

Republicans: so you have to travel out of state for a procedure, and spend one or two nights, take off extra days of work, find someone to babysit overnight. No biggie.

Showing themselves to be the elitists that they are.

All were given in-state choices. They just didn’t like them

Watching you work so hard to try to be OK with abortion rights being taken away is fascinating. And sad.

It is what it is. Just own it. You voted for the forced birthers. You must be OK with that. Too late now.

I think we should think long and hard at the ease in which we terminate a life. Notice how none of these stories start with “Sarah is 22, has multiple partners by choice, and sometimes skips her birth control. She’s found out she’s pregnant and is not ready to have a child….” Reason? Because that would bring up very uncomfortable questions. And that is the majority reason why someone seeks out abortion.

Ok. Let’s look “long and hard” at 22 year old Sara with multiple partners and an inconsistent use of birth control. Is it in the best interests of Sara to have a child? If she’s not great at taking birth control why do you think she’s going to be great at taking prenatals?

Basically does your argument boil down to Sara should be legally required to give birth…because she didn’t take a pill every day? Does that make any kind of sense to you? That a child should be raised by a 22 year old (guessing single mother because of your multiple partners comment) in adverse economic conditions because that will show her?

Whose interests do you serve here? It’s not Sara’s. It’s not the child’s. It’s not the states because they’ll be paying for the healthcare and the education and the early intervention. It’s just the interest of…controlling women?

Sara created another life. There are responsibilities that go with behavior. I knew at least a few Saras when I was in college who had multiple abortions. I’d like to see the Saras of this world not be considered victims.

DP. There’s nothing objectionable about Sara having an abortion if she doesn’t want to be a mother, whether she “created a life” or not. It’s her body that will have to incubate it, and it’s her choice to do it or not to do it. At the time she’d have the abortion, it’s a fetus, not a person.

That’s your opinion. Sara is not a victim.

Sara needs to have the right to an abortion even if she decides to carry the pregnancy and wants to give birth, there are many things that can go wrong with a pregnancy. This nonsense that a women gets a positive pregnancy test and then that's that a perfectly developed baby just pops out 9 months later needs to stop.

Stop making Sara a victim and people will be more open to legal and rare.

[Anonymous]

The rich vote for Dems because it is easy to manipulate the average Dem voter. Thus the Rich get greater political power in our system.

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Anonymous wrote:The rich vote for Dems because it is easy to manipulate the average Dem voter. Thus the Rich get greater political power in our system.

It’s not Dems who got sucked into Qanon. Just saying.

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Sara may not be a victim. That’s totally irrelevant.
“Sara” isn’t who is getting abortions in the country
* the majority of abortion care is performed on women in their 30’s who already have a family
since 1980 abortion rates have come down.

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The climate hoax is one example of rich dems manipulating the young while their personal decision show what they truly think.

https://www.homesandgardens.com/news/president-obama-new-house-marthas-vineyard
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11653723/How-Al-Gore-300m-climate-alarmism-Former-VP-fortune-losing-George-W.html

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?

Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.

Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?

Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.

No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!

Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?

Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.

if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.

I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!

What makes you think that every woman who had a problem getting an abortion published her story?

Are you saying it's reasonable for women to have to travel fo other states to receive this care? How are they supposed to afford that? Time off, hotels, waiting periods, plus the cost of the procedure?

Here
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

And this https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/health/abortion-texas-sepsis/index.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/texas-woman-describes-ordeal-with-state-abortion-law-after-miscarriage

and here https://time.com/6208860/ohio-woman-forced-travel-abortion/

And here's a whole collection! https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/abortion/federal-and-state-bans-and-restrictions-abortion/20-week-bans/personal-stories-reveal-how-20-week-abortion-bans-would-hurt-wom

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1) Elizabeth was released from the hospital. Off they go to another nearby state that allowed abortion. She was not in dire straits. She just wanted one.

2) Amanda could have driven with her husband the 8 hours to another state. They chose not to.

3) Marlena was giving the pill. She chose not to go that route.

4) Tara could have gone to another state. She tried Michigan. Go to CO or CA. She had time.

5) Don’t hand me planned parenthood stories and expect they won’t be biased.

Republicans: so you have to travel out of state for a procedure, and spend one or two nights, take off extra days of work, find someone to babysit overnight. No biggie.

Showing themselves to be the elitists that they are.

All were given in-state choices. They just didn’t like them

Watching you work so hard to try to be OK with abortion rights being taken away is fascinating. And sad.

It is what it is. Just own it. You voted for the forced birthers. You must be OK with that. Too late now.

I think we should think long and hard at the ease in which we terminate a life. Notice how none of these stories start with “Sarah is 22, has multiple partners by choice, and sometimes skips her birth control. She’s found out she’s pregnant and is not ready to have a child….” Reason? Because that would bring up very uncomfortable questions. And that is the majority reason why someone seeks out abortion.

Ok. Let’s look “long and hard” at 22 year old Sara with multiple partners and an inconsistent use of birth control. Is it in the best interests of Sara to have a child? If she’s not great at taking birth control why do you think she’s going to be great at taking prenatals?

Basically does your argument boil down to Sara should be legally required to give birth…because she didn’t take a pill every day? Does that make any kind of sense to you? That a child should be raised by a 22 year old (guessing single mother because of your multiple partners comment) in adverse economic conditions because that will show her?

Whose interests do you serve here? It’s not Sara’s. It’s not the child’s. It’s not the states because they’ll be paying for the healthcare and the education and the early intervention. It’s just the interest of…controlling women?

Sara created another life. There are responsibilities that go with behavior. I knew at least a few Saras when I was in college who had multiple abortions. I’d like to see the Saras of this world not be considered victims.

DP. There’s nothing objectionable about Sara having an abortion if she doesn’t want to be a mother, whether she “created a life” or not. It’s her body that will have to incubate it, and it’s her choice to do it or not to do it. At the time she’d have the abortion, it’s a fetus, not a person.

That’s your opinion. Sara is not a victim.

Sara needs to have the right to an abortion even if she decides to carry the pregnancy and wants to give birth, there are many things that can go wrong with a pregnancy. This nonsense that a women gets a positive pregnancy test and then that's that a perfectly developed baby just pops out 9 months later needs to stop.

Stop making Sara a victim and people will be more open to legal and rare.

Stop saying “Sara created another life. There are responsibilities that go with behavior.“
Sara cannot create life. Stop punishing Sara.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be very in favor of policies that would make it easier for women to choose not to have abortions. When will the pro-life team come up with their plan for ending workplace discrimination against pregnant women, ensuring access to high quality childcare so women can continue to work, improving our healthcare system so women aren’t literally risking their lives to have babies, providing health care for all so that women whose children have birth defects aren’t faced with bankruptcy if they choose to deliver, etc?

There is not much you can do at the workplace if women are going to end up having a lot of kids and not being able to control family size.

You do realize this is a pro life “feature”, not a bug.

The eroding of Womens power and self determination is part of the point. More opportunities for incels.

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Anonymous wrote:The rich vote for Dems because it is easy to manipulate the average Dem voter. Thus the Rich get greater political power in our system.

The average dem voter is more educated and sophisticated than the average GOP voter. This has been pretty well documented over the past 40 years. There is a reason the GOP continues to dilute public education. They want their voters dump and stupid. It is the only way they can win.

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Anonymous wrote:The climate hoax is one example of rich dems manipulating the young while their personal decision show what they truly think.

https://www.homesandgardens.com/news/president-obama-new-house-marthas-vineyard
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11653723/How-Al-Gore-300m-climate-alarmism-Former-VP-fortune-losing-George-W.html

The fact that you still call it the "climate hoax" is a pretty good tell. You may want to sit this one out.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?

Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.

Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?

Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.

No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!

Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?

Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.

if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.

I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!

What makes you think that every woman who had a problem getting an abortion published her story?

Are you saying it's reasonable for women to have to travel fo other states to receive this care? How are they supposed to afford that? Time off, hotels, waiting periods, plus the cost of the procedure?

Here
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

And this https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/health/abortion-texas-sepsis/index.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/texas-woman-describes-ordeal-with-state-abortion-law-after-miscarriage

and here https://time.com/6208860/ohio-woman-forced-travel-abortion/

And here's a whole collection! https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/abortion/federal-and-state-bans-and-restrictions-abortion/20-week-bans/personal-stories-reveal-how-20-week-abortion-bans-would-hurt-wom

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1) Elizabeth was released from the hospital. Off they go to another nearby state that allowed abortion. She was not in dire straits. She just wanted one.

2) Amanda could have driven with her husband the 8 hours to another state. They chose not to.

3) Marlena was giving the pill. She chose not to go that route.

4) Tara could have gone to another state. She tried Michigan. Go to CO or CA. She had time.

5) Don’t hand me planned parenthood stories and expect they won’t be biased.

Republicans: so you have to travel out of state for a procedure, and spend one or two nights, take off extra days of work, find someone to babysit overnight. No biggie.

Showing themselves to be the elitists that they are.

All were given in-state choices. They just didn’t like them

Guess those "choices" are in danger of being taken away. Surprise, surprise. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/09/abortion-pill-trump-judge-possible-ban-mifepristone

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Anonymous wrote:The rich vote for Dems because it is easy to manipulate the average Dem voter. Thus the Rich get greater political power in our system.

It’s not Dems who got sucked into Qanon. Just saying.

Qanon doesn't run our country, does it? Does your workplace/college ask you to follow Qanon ideologies in order to keep your paycheck and get a degree? What ideologies are pushed down your throat in the recent years at work and in college and even in grade school? That's who has real power.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?

Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.

Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?

Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.

No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!

Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?

Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.

if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.

I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!

What makes you think that every woman who had a problem getting an abortion published her story?

Are you saying it's reasonable for women to have to travel fo other states to receive this care? How are they supposed to afford that? Time off, hotels, waiting periods, plus the cost of the procedure?

Here
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

And this https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/health/abortion-texas-sepsis/index.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/texas-woman-describes-ordeal-with-state-abortion-law-after-miscarriage

and here https://time.com/6208860/ohio-woman-forced-travel-abortion/

And here's a whole collection! https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/abortion/federal-and-state-bans-and-restrictions-abortion/20-week-bans/personal-stories-reveal-how-20-week-abortion-bans-would-hurt-wom

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1) Elizabeth was released from the hospital. Off they go to another nearby state that allowed abortion. She was not in dire straits. She just wanted one.

2) Amanda could have driven with her husband the 8 hours to another state. They chose not to.

3) Marlena was giving the pill. She chose not to go that route.

4) Tara could have gone to another state. She tried Michigan. Go to CO or CA. She had time.

5) Don’t hand me planned parenthood stories and expect they won’t be biased.

Republicans: so you have to travel out of state for a procedure, and spend one or two nights, take off extra days of work, find someone to babysit overnight. No biggie.

Showing themselves to be the elitists that they are.

All were given in-state choices. They just didn’t like them

Guess those "choices" are in danger of being taken away. Surprise, surprise. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/09/abortion-pill-trump-judge-possible-ban-mifepristone

What the heck are the republicans doing? Do they never want to win another election? This was a vote winning issue until it managed to actually overturn roe but now is it a loser. Why don't they adjust and pivot away from this losing strategy?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?

Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.

Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?

Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.

No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!

Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?

Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.

if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.

I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!

What makes you think that every woman who had a problem getting an abortion published her story?

Are you saying it's reasonable for women to have to travel fo other states to receive this care? How are they supposed to afford that? Time off, hotels, waiting periods, plus the cost of the procedure?

Here
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

And this https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/health/abortion-texas-sepsis/index.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/texas-woman-describes-ordeal-with-state-abortion-law-after-miscarriage

and here https://time.com/6208860/ohio-woman-forced-travel-abortion/

And here's a whole collection! https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/abortion/federal-and-state-bans-and-restrictions-abortion/20-week-bans/personal-stories-reveal-how-20-week-abortion-bans-would-hurt-wom

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1) Elizabeth was released from the hospital. Off they go to another nearby state that allowed abortion. She was not in dire straits. She just wanted one.

2) Amanda could have driven with her husband the 8 hours to another state. They chose not to.

3) Marlena was giving the pill. She chose not to go that route.

4) Tara could have gone to another state. She tried Michigan. Go to CO or CA. She had time.

5) Don’t hand me planned parenthood stories and expect they won’t be biased.

Republicans: so you have to travel out of state for a procedure, and spend one or two nights, take off extra days of work, find someone to babysit overnight. No biggie.

Showing themselves to be the elitists that they are.

All were given in-state choices. They just didn’t like them

Watching you work so hard to try to be OK with abortion rights being taken away is fascinating. And sad.

It is what it is. Just own it. You voted for the forced birthers. You must be OK with that. Too late now.

I think we should think long and hard at the ease in which we terminate a life. Notice how none of these stories start with “Sarah is 22, has multiple partners by choice, and sometimes skips her birth control. She’s found out she’s pregnant and is not ready to have a child….” Reason? Because that would bring up very uncomfortable questions. And that is the majority reason why someone seeks out abortion.

Ok. Let’s look “long and hard” at 22 year old Sara with multiple partners and an inconsistent use of birth control. Is it in the best interests of Sara to have a child? If she’s not great at taking birth control why do you think she’s going to be great at taking prenatals?

Basically does your argument boil down to Sara should be legally required to give birth…because she didn’t take a pill every day? Does that make any kind of sense to you? That a child should be raised by a 22 year old (guessing single mother because of your multiple partners comment) in adverse economic conditions because that will show her?

Whose interests do you serve here? It’s not Sara’s. It’s not the child’s. It’s not the states because they’ll be paying for the healthcare and the education and the early intervention. It’s just the interest of…controlling women?

Sara created another life. There are responsibilities that go with behavior. I knew at least a few Saras when I was in college who had multiple abortions. I’d like to see the Saras of this world not be considered victims.

DP. There’s nothing objectionable about Sara having an abortion if she doesn’t want to be a mother, whether she “created a life” or not. It’s her body that will have to incubate it, and it’s her choice to do it or not to do it. At the time she’d have the abortion, it’s a fetus, not a person.

That’s your opinion. Sara is not a victim.

Sara needs to have the right to an abortion even if she decides to carry the pregnancy and wants to give birth, there are many things that can go wrong with a pregnancy. This nonsense that a women gets a positive pregnancy test and then that's that a perfectly developed baby just pops out 9 months later needs to stop.

Stop making Sara a victim and people will be more open to legal and rare.

Start seeing women as people instead of your property.