What the hell happened to JD Vance?

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Yeah. This is what I don’t get. I guess the base didn’t read his book? Because they complain about liberal elites looking down on them. But most of us don’t have a NYT best seller devoted to doing so.

Nobody read his corny book full of lies and exaggerations. It was astroturfed propaganda.

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Anonymous wrote:8:30 sounds exactly like Obama’s.

Yes, Barack is the same profile. Both he and JD were plotting their political trajectories from their law school days and got some critical early help from older boosters. In JD's case, it was primarily Amy Chua and Peter Thiel that help propel him forward. For Barack it was the likes of Abner Mikva, Emil Jones and Valerie Jarrett.

JD has clearly been obsessed with politics since he was a teen. The fake military box checking. Majored in poli sci at OSU. Interned for politicians at OSU. Job at AEI. Guy is a lifelong wormy schemer who was trying to build the perfect resume.

I don’t understand what’s wrong with having goals and working to achieve them. Plenty of people know what they want to do as a career and set long term goals for himself. And then step by step they make decisions and position themselves to obtain the end. I am not a Vance fan but insulting him because he had childhood goals to get into politics is lame. Plenty of people have these goals.

We were countering the claim he never thought about politics. Bullshit. His entire fake life has been curated to become a fast rising political star. He’s an opportunistic grifter charlatan who believes in nothing and hates the middle of the country.

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Anonymous wrote:Opportunism! Just like Tucker. The base wants red meat.

Anonymous wrote:Opportunism! Just like Tucker. The base wants red meat.

Tucker is a charismatic old money WASP.

J.D. (fake name, by the way) is a dorky white trash shameless prostitute eager to be at cocktail parties full of elites who think he's a useful idiot hick.

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Anonymous wrote:Opportunism! Just like Tucker. The base wants red meat.

Anonymous wrote:Opportunism! Just like Tucker. The base wants red meat.

Tucker is a charismatic old money WASP.

J.D. (fake name, by the way) is a dorky white trash shameless prostitute eager to be at cocktail parties full of elites who think he's a useful idiot hick.

yeah. they might be close ideologically but i see no similarities between the two. tucker is attractive, at ease with himself, funny. JD is insecure, desperate, attracting no one.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just shocking to me. Clearly a smart & educated dude; grew up lower-middle class, entered the marines then graduated from Ohio State in only two years, then Yale Law. His wife was a Gates Cambridge Scholar, then attended Yale Law and is a successful lawyer. In his book, he criticized Fox.

Now he’s on Twitter rambling about illegal immigrants and yada yada.

If you hate him so much why are you on his twitter?

Because he's the red meat party's VP candidate. What you want me to just keep my head in the sand silly?

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Anonymous wrote:Appalachians are rejecting him as a fake.

Women are horrified by his extreme viewpoints on rape, abortion, and menstrual surveillance.

He has no charm or charisma.

He has flip flopped from calling Trump "Hitler" and "an opiod" a few years back to endorsing him as president and vouching for all his policies.

Buttigieg clocked Vance in a short 2 minute soundbite by highlighting Vance's notorious opportunistic nature: "I knew a lot of people like him when I got to Harvard," Buttigieg says. "I found a lot of people like him who would say whatever they needed to get ahead. And five years ago, that seemed like being the anti-Trump Republican, so that's what he was that."

Buttigieg highlights more of Vance's former harsh criticism of Trump. "[Vance] Called him an opioid, which is kind of a weird thing to say about a person. But I mean, for someone whose identity is that they're connected to Appalachia, which has an opioid crisis, that really is the darkest thing you could possibly say about Donald Trump, at least in public. Behind the scenes, apparently he's actually calling him Hitler, right?"

The crowd laughs, but Buttigieg is sure to clarify he's not being hyperbolic, adding a "seriously" there at the end.

Utterly savage. This needs to be Mayor Pete’s full time job.

Pete speaking to anyone's authenticity is hilarious. HE was one of those types "at Harvard". Ridiculous projection.

At least Pete had the stones to come out of the closet. When will JD?

Here we have a bunch of hypocrites moaning that anyone would dare speak on the bedroom of the Democratic candidate and then coming out with crap like this?

Well done...

Please share all the girlfriends JD had before he was introduced to his now wife in his late 20s by two creepy law professors. And please tell us why a “Conservative” guy personally sought out, worked for, and is the beneficiary of a degenerate gay billionaire who keeps boy toys on the side, one of which committed suicide last year.

I need to know more. Any sources?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeff-thomas-influencer-who-died-of-suspected-suicide-was-peter-thiels-partner-report-says

wow so disgusting. talk about using a person and discarding him. this should be illegal. it's so much worse than many crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:Appalachians are rejecting him as a fake.

Women are horrified by his extreme viewpoints on rape, abortion, and menstrual surveillance.

He has no charm or charisma.

He has flip flopped from calling Trump "Hitler" and "an opiod" a few years back to endorsing him as president and vouching for all his policies.

Buttigieg clocked Vance in a short 2 minute soundbite by highlighting Vance's notorious opportunistic nature: "I knew a lot of people like him when I got to Harvard," Buttigieg says. "I found a lot of people like him who would say whatever they needed to get ahead. And five years ago, that seemed like being the anti-Trump Republican, so that's what he was that."

Buttigieg highlights more of Vance's former harsh criticism of Trump. "[Vance] Called him an opioid, which is kind of a weird thing to say about a person. But I mean, for someone whose identity is that they're connected to Appalachia, which has an opioid crisis, that really is the darkest thing you could possibly say about Donald Trump, at least in public. Behind the scenes, apparently he's actually calling him Hitler, right?"

The crowd laughs, but Buttigieg is sure to clarify he's not being hyperbolic, adding a "seriously" there at the end.

Utterly savage. This needs to be Mayor Pete’s full time job.

Pete speaking to anyone's authenticity is hilarious. HE was one of those types "at Harvard". Ridiculous projection.

At least Pete had the stones to come out of the closet. When will JD?

Here we have a bunch of hypocrites moaning that anyone would dare speak on the bedroom of the Democratic candidate and then coming out with crap like this?

Well done...

Please share all the girlfriends JD had before he was introduced to his now wife in his late 20s by two creepy law professors. And please tell us why a “Conservative” guy personally sought out, worked for, and is the beneficiary of a degenerate gay billionaire who keeps boy toys on the side, one of which committed suicide last year.

I need to know more. Any sources?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeff-thomas-influencer-who-died-of-suspected-suicide-was-peter-thiels-partner-report-says

wow so disgusting. talk about using a person and discarding him. this should be illegal. it's so much worse than many crimes.

EXCLUSIVE: Peter Thiel’s Instagram model boyfriend plunged to his death WEEKS after witnessing messy showdown between the billionaire mogul and his husband when he crashed couple’s New Year’s bash

Peter Thiel and Matt Danzeisen wed October 2017 and share two young children
Thiel had been in a romantic relationship with model Jeff Thomas since late 2019
Many in their elite gay circle told DailyMail.com that their romance was an 'open secret' – but it is unclear if Danzeisen was aware of his husband's infidelity
Thiel put Thomas up in a $13 million dollar mansion tucked in the Hollywood Hills, gifted him with lavish European trips, a $300,000 sports car, and access to the most coveted parties in town

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11926699/Peter-Thiels-model-boyfriend-died-WEEKS-NYE-showdown-billionaire-husband.html

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Anonymous wrote:Dems are envious because Vance has a brain & Kamala….doesn’t.

Kamala has more credentials politically than he does. Also, it's much harder for a woman to rise in the political ranks than a man, so she has more balls than he does.

Even so, they both are smarter than Trump, yet Trump is your man. So, you may not want to mention who has a brain and who doesn't.

Kamala has brains. She's a prosecutor with a long record of public service. Vance...got in to Yale Law School as a military admit, didn't have a stellar record there, and has worked at a hedge fund run by conservative Silicon Valley oddballs. He has a very thin resume. And shame on his wife--a brown immigrant woman embracing the MAGA nutjobs who would like nothing more than to expel people like her from the country.

I think he was on the Yale Law Journal.

He was. But as one of 60 others.
https://abovethelaw.com/2024/07/j-d-vance-described-as-editor-of-the-yale-law-journal-which-seems-a-tad-misleading/

Yes. But I was responding to the pp who said he had a “less than stellar record” at YLS. Making law review disproves that.

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Anonymous wrote:8:30 sounds exactly like Obama’s.

Yes, Barack is the same profile. Both he and JD were plotting their political trajectories from their law school days and got some critical early help from older boosters. In JD's case, it was primarily Amy Chua and Peter Thiel that help propel him forward. For Barack it was the likes of Abner Mikva, Emil Jones and Valerie Jarrett.

JD has clearly been obsessed with politics since he was a teen. The fake military box checking. Majored in poli sci at OSU. Interned for politicians at OSU. Job at AEI. Guy is a lifelong wormy schemer who was trying to build the perfect resume.

I don’t understand what’s wrong with having goals and working to achieve them. Plenty of people know what they want to do as a career and set long term goals for himself. And then step by step they make decisions and position themselves to obtain the end. I am not a Vance fan but insulting him because he had childhood goals to get into politics is lame. Plenty of people have these goals.

Because why choose politics as a career? It almost always requires great sacrifices of personal integrity.

So does that extend to the candidates you like then?

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Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.

Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.

As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.

Why did he need to be in politics to begin with? I don't see how he is even a good fit, he is extremely unlikable.

He didn't. But he's ambitious. This type for person doesn't think about "good fit" or "needs of the country" before jumping into politics, they just go for it to satiate their thirst for acclaim, status, notoriety, power, relevance etc. Not an uncommon profile for YLS.

Yes, but politics is still a more natural fit for some than others. Clinton likes being around people. So does Trump. Obama is more of a professor type, but still very likable.

Vance looks desperate. He comes across as a low class striver with a chip on his shoulder. I can't tell who is supposed to be his constituency.

And D’s wonder why middle Americans consider them to be out of touch elites. It’s ok to be a career politician, but only if you have the right pedigree.

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See “self-serving opportunist” (lacking all principles).

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I heard his law school roommate interviewed.

The guy said Vance has tremendous anger, and is running for office when instead he should be getting therapy to work through his issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard his law school roommate interviewed.

The guy said Vance has tremendous anger, and is running for office when instead he should be getting therapy to work through his issues.

I watched his documentary and his disdain and hatred of women really is obvious. He has deep deep mommy issues..

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I also wonder why on earth they chose Vance. Trump already had a huge problem with women voters. While Trump was polling far ahead of Biden in Florida, Biden was ahead in Florida among women voters. Women turn out to vote more than men so in swing states it matters. Trump’s liability beyond..you know being a con artist, liar, convicted felon, depraved human..is the GOP’s extreme actions on abortion. So what does the campaign do? They pick Vance the biggest woman hating prick on the planet.

Yes let’s double down on forcing women in violent, abusive marriages to NOT BE ALLOWED to DIVORCE their rapist, abuser if pregnant and not be able to abort. Hey guys, here’s the playbook. If your wife is giving you grief for beating her, just rape her! She’ll be forced to stay married to you and give birth. Have at it fellas, Vance is your man!

Let’s make abortion illegal everywhere in the US! Screw states rights, doesn’t matter if there are women to harm. Vance is your guy. He’s the dream guy of every sociopath or mentally ill guy that feels rejected by women or blames his shortcomings on women.

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Anonymous wrote:I also wonder why on earth they chose Vance. Trump already had a huge problem with women voters. While Trump was polling far ahead of Biden in Florida, Biden was ahead in Florida among women voters. Women turn out to vote more than men so in swing states it matters. Trump’s liability beyond..you know being a con artist, liar, convicted felon, depraved human..is the GOP’s extreme actions on abortion. So what does the campaign do? They pick Vance the biggest woman hating prick on the planet.

Yes let’s double down on forcing women in violent, abusive marriages to NOT BE ALLOWED to DIVORCE their rapist, abuser if pregnant and not be able to abort. Hey guys, here’s the playbook. If your wife is giving you grief for beating her, just rape her! She’ll be forced to stay married to you and give birth. Have at it fellas, Vance is your man!

Let’s make abortion illegal everywhere in the US! Screw states rights, doesn’t matter if there are women to harm. Vance is your guy. He’s the dream guy of every sociopath or mentally ill guy that feels rejected by women or blames his shortcomings on women.

I agree. At first he looked okay and then I saw his statements and recoiled. Even for GOP that is out there on domestic violence.