King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

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Anonymous wrote:KAA will be used as a speciality center for kids with IEPs. No more slowing down other classes. These kids will finally get the attention and resources they need. A TJ for kids who need a little extra help.

When someone posts about special education without understanding anything about special education....

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why the Great Falls nuts don't want the sale to go through. It will free up space at all the western high schools, so the glaring empty seats at Herndon won't be so obvious or so needed to be filled, so there would be l
ess pressure to move those kids over to HHS. What am I missing?

That group has a very valid point re: lack of disclosure and process. Read their last paragraph again.

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And if a brand new, beautiful high school had suddenly been purchased in say, the McLean or Great Falls area with no disclosure or transparency, we all know exactly what kind of criticism and fallout would occur.

If there was a "new Rich People high school" bond and plan on the books for 15+ years? No one would be surprised.

As a reminder only $25 million had been bonded and earmarked for a new western HS. The other $125M had not been funded in a bond so they are going to have to defer other projects which to date haven’t been identified.

You aren’t allowed to ask questions! Just give them the $150 million, no questions asked.

Centreville expansion is funded at $300 million. it can be scaled back--not eliminated or deferred. It can go on schedule and still get expanded--just not to 3000 students.

And she’s back, pretending to have all the answers when the school board has given us none.

You do realize this is speculation based on readily available information? This is just an example of something that could easily be adapted.

You seem to be averse to suggestions of how it could be paid for.

KAA can ultimately help Centreville overcrowding. So, the need for a $300 million dollar expansion could be scaled back. Do you have a problem with that?

I want to hear from the school board or fcps, not armchair quarterback moms on dcum speculating in an attempt to avoid good governance because they stand to benefit from the purchase.

People are right to ask questions, especially since it seems that staff at gatehouse has concerns.

You think the school board is going to reply to you here? Let the other mom's talk too. You dominate these threads saying the same thing over and over. We've all read it. You can't seem to let anyone else speak without repeating yourself again.

Piss poor attempt at deflection.

It’s been a month and we still haven’t heard diddly squat from the school board about their plans for the school, and what we are giving up in exchange for that $150m.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why the Great Falls nuts don't want the sale to go through. It will free up space at all the western high schools, so the glaring empty seats at Herndon won't be so obvious or so needed to be filled, so there would be l
ess pressure to move those kids over to HHS. What am I missing?

That group has a very valid point re: lack of disclosure and process. Read their last paragraph again.

+1
And if a brand new, beautiful high school had suddenly been purchased in say, the McLean or Great Falls area with no disclosure or transparency, we all know exactly what kind of criticism and fallout would occur.

If there was a "new Rich People high school" bond and plan on the books for 15+ years? No one would be surprised.

As a reminder only $25 million had been bonded and earmarked for a new western HS. The other $125M had not been funded in a bond so they are going to have to defer other projects which to date haven’t been identified.

You aren’t allowed to ask questions! Just give them the $150 million, no questions asked.

Centreville expansion is funded at $300 million. it can be scaled back--not eliminated or deferred. It can go on schedule and still get expanded--just not to 3000 students.

And she’s back, pretending to have all the answers when the school board has given us none.

You do realize this is speculation based on readily available information? This is just an example of something that could easily be adapted.

You seem to be averse to suggestions of how it could be paid for.

KAA can ultimately help Centreville overcrowding. So, the need for a $300 million dollar expansion could be scaled back. Do you have a problem with that?

I want to hear from the school board or fcps, not armchair quarterback moms on dcum speculating in an attempt to avoid good governance because they stand to benefit from the purchase.

People are right to ask questions, especially since it seems that staff at gatehouse has concerns.

You think the school board is going to reply to you here? Let the other mom's talk too. You dominate these threads saying the same thing over and over. We've all read it. You can't seem to let anyone else speak without repeating yourself again.

Piss poor attempt at deflection.

It’s been a month and we still haven’t heard diddly squat from the school board about their plans for the school, and what we are giving up in exchange for that $150m.

So. What do you want DCUM to do?

[Anonymous]

We are a Bull Run/Liberty family and I'm on both PTAs and we have heard NOTHING about any kind of redistricting for our schools. No one would want to switch from Liberty/Centreville to Stone/Westfield.

Centreville is our neighborhood high school. We are only 2-3 miles away. Westfield is NOT our neighborhood school and is twice as far away (7 miles up the highway!) .

The McNair areas that everyone is saying should be moved out of Westfield because they are too far away are ALSO 7 miles from Westfield.

They are literally a dozen elementary zones closer to Westfield than us.

If the SB is prioritizing proximity, moving us makes no sense.

(I guess we have no idea what they are actually prioritizing)

[Anonymous]

How did the Coates situation get so bad in the first place? Did they misjudge the number of kids coming from new developments?

[Anonymous]

Here's a novel idea: Sign up for the next school board meeting and ask about it. Send all of the school board members a message and ask about it. Find out what public events they will be going to, go there, and ask about it.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand the logic of moving Coates kids to some temporary building and then moving them again the next year when the boundary changes take effect. It seems like the school board could just figure out and implement whatever change is going to happen for Coates in the plan and make that move happen a year early. Less upheaval overall that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the logic of moving Coates kids to some temporary building and then moving them again the next year when the boundary changes take effect. It seems like the school board could just figure out and implement whatever change is going to happen for Coates in the plan and make that move happen a year early. Less upheaval overall that way.

They would need to do something decisive ASAP and that's not really their style.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the logic of moving Coates kids to some temporary building and then moving them again the next year when the boundary changes take effect. It seems like the school board could just figure out and implement whatever change is going to happen for Coates in the plan and make that move happen a year early. Less upheaval overall that way.

They would need to do something decisive ASAP and that's not really their style.

I made the annex suggestion because it seems to me that something needs to be done for 2025-26.

They plan to add more trailers and the facilities cannot handle it--according to a poster on Nextdoor. She said there are already not enough facilities (bathrooms, water fountains, etc).

My suggestion was intended as a stop gap. Of course, it would have been better had they already readjusted boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why the Great Falls nuts don't want the sale to go through. It will free up space at all the western high schools, so the glaring empty seats at Herndon won't be so obvious or so needed to be filled, so there would be l
ess pressure to move those kids over to HHS. What am I missing?

That group has a very valid point re: lack of disclosure and process. Read their last paragraph again.

+1
And if a brand new, beautiful high school had suddenly been purchased in say, the McLean or Great Falls area with no disclosure or transparency, we all know exactly what kind of criticism and fallout would occur.

If there was a "new Rich People high school" bond and plan on the books for 15+ years? No one would be surprised.

As a reminder only $25 million had been bonded and earmarked for a new western HS. The other $125M had not been funded in a bond so they are going to have to defer other projects which to date haven’t been identified.

You aren’t allowed to ask questions! Just give them the $150 million, no questions asked.

Centreville expansion is funded at $300 million. it can be scaled back--not eliminated or deferred. It can go on schedule and still get expanded--just not to 3000 students.

And she’s back, pretending to have all the answers when the school board has given us none.

You do realize this is speculation based on readily available information? This is just an example of something that could easily be adapted.

You seem to be averse to suggestions of how it could be paid for.

KAA can ultimately help Centreville overcrowding. So, the need for a $300 million dollar expansion could be scaled back. Do you have a problem with that?

I want to hear from the school board or fcps, not armchair quarterback moms on dcum speculating in an attempt to avoid good governance because they stand to benefit from the purchase.

People are right to ask questions, especially since it seems that staff at gatehouse has concerns.

You think the school board is going to reply to you here? Let the other mom's talk too. You dominate these threads saying the same thing over and over. We've all read it. You can't seem to let anyone else speak without repeating yourself again.

Piss poor attempt at deflection.

It’s been a month and we still haven’t heard diddly squat from the school board about their plans for the school, and what we are giving up in exchange for that $150m.

So. What do you want DCUM to do?

DP. What do you want DCUM to do about your concerns? Why do you post here? The PP is just as entitled to post her questions and concerns as you are. No doubt you’ve been writing post after post about what the boundaries will be - no one here knows anything about that either. It’s all just speculation.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why the Great Falls nuts don't want the sale to go through. It will free up space at all the western high schools, so the glaring empty seats at Herndon won't be so obvious or so needed to be filled, so there would be l
ess pressure to move those kids over to HHS. What am I missing?

That group has a very valid point re: lack of disclosure and process. Read their last paragraph again.

+1
And if a brand new, beautiful high school had suddenly been purchased in say, the McLean or Great Falls area with no disclosure or transparency, we all know exactly what kind of criticism and fallout would occur.

If there was a "new Rich People high school" bond and plan on the books for 15+ years? No one would be surprised.

As a reminder only $25 million had been bonded and earmarked for a new western HS. The other $125M had not been funded in a bond so they are going to have to defer other projects which to date haven’t been identified.

You aren’t allowed to ask questions! Just give them the $150 million, no questions asked.

Centreville expansion is funded at $300 million. it can be scaled back--not eliminated or deferred. It can go on schedule and still get expanded--just not to 3000 students.

And she’s back, pretending to have all the answers when the school board has given us none.

You do realize this is speculation based on readily available information? This is just an example of something that could easily be adapted.

You seem to be averse to suggestions of how it could be paid for.

KAA can ultimately help Centreville overcrowding. So, the need for a $300 million dollar expansion could be scaled back. Do you have a problem with that?

I want to hear from the school board or fcps, not armchair quarterback moms on dcum speculating in an attempt to avoid good governance because they stand to benefit from the purchase.

People are right to ask questions, especially since it seems that staff at gatehouse has concerns.

You think the school board is going to reply to you here? Let the other mom's talk too. You dominate these threads saying the same thing over and over. We've all read it. You can't seem to let anyone else speak without repeating yourself again.

Piss poor attempt at deflection.

It’s been a month and we still haven’t heard diddly squat from the school board about their plans for the school, and what we are giving up in exchange for that $150m.

So. What do you want DCUM to do?

DP. What do you want DCUM to do about your concerns? Why do you post here? The PP is just as entitled to post her questions and concerns as you are. No doubt you’ve been writing post after post about what the boundaries will be - no one here knows anything about that either. It’s all just speculation.

Yeah, except the original post you are defending said,
"I want to hear from the school board or fcps, not armchair quarterback moms on dcum"
She is the one trying to shut down any input from everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why the Great Falls nuts don't want the sale to go through. It will free up space at all the western high schools, so the glaring empty seats at Herndon won't be so obvious or so needed to be filled, so there would be l
ess pressure to move those kids over to HHS. What am I missing?

That group has a very valid point re: lack of disclosure and process. Read their last paragraph again.

+1
And if a brand new, beautiful high school had suddenly been purchased in say, the McLean or Great Falls area with no disclosure or transparency, we all know exactly what kind of criticism and fallout would occur.

If there was a "new Rich People high school" bond and plan on the books for 15+ years? No one would be surprised.

As a reminder only $25 million had been bonded and earmarked for a new western HS. The other $125M had not been funded in a bond so they are going to have to defer other projects which to date haven’t been identified.

You aren’t allowed to ask questions! Just give them the $150 million, no questions asked.

Centreville expansion is funded at $300 million. it can be scaled back--not eliminated or deferred. It can go on schedule and still get expanded--just not to 3000 students.

And she’s back, pretending to have all the answers when the school board has given us none.

You do realize this is speculation based on readily available information? This is just an example of something that could easily be adapted.

You seem to be averse to suggestions of how it could be paid for.

KAA can ultimately help Centreville overcrowding. So, the need for a $300 million dollar expansion could be scaled back. Do you have a problem with that?

I want to hear from the school board or fcps, not armchair quarterback moms on dcum speculating in an attempt to avoid good governance because they stand to benefit from the purchase.

People are right to ask questions, especially since it seems that staff at gatehouse has concerns.

You think the school board is going to reply to you here? Let the other mom's talk too. You dominate these threads saying the same thing over and over. We've all read it. You can't seem to let anyone else speak without repeating yourself again.

Piss poor attempt at deflection.

It’s been a month and we still haven’t heard diddly squat from the school board about their plans for the school, and what we are giving up in exchange for that $150m.

So. What do you want DCUM to do?

DP. What do you want DCUM to do about your concerns? Why do you post here? The PP is just as entitled to post her questions and concerns as you are. No doubt you’ve been writing post after post about what the boundaries will be - no one here knows anything about that either. It’s all just speculation.

Yeah, except the original post you are defending said,
"I want to hear from the school board or fcps, not armchair quarterback moms on dcum"
She is the one trying to shut down any input from everyone else.

You are referring to my post. Fwiw, I don’t give a hoot about DCUM’s thoughts about what the school will be used for, because nobody knows, because the school board hasn’t disclosed anything.

I care about making it known that the school board is using $150 million of taxpayer money for a new school and has spent more time fawning over Sandy Anderson in their chair nomination speeches on Thursday than they have altogether publicly disclosing anything about the new school.

It’s blatant one party rule run amok.

[Anonymous]

And, some see it as the first thing that FCPS has done right.

It is a bargain and it is needed. When a renovation/expansion at a high school costs $300 million, it is hard to deny it is a bargain: land, school building, 2 additional buildings, and furnishings.

I also look to hear the answers. But, from what they said when voting on the purchase, it would appear it is to help the communities that have been needing this school for a very long time.

I would hope that when they close, that they will quickly announce the plans and the community engagement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And, some see it as the first thing that FCPS has done right.

It is a bargain and it is needed. When a renovation/expansion at a high school costs $300 million, it is hard to deny it is a bargain: land, school building, 2 additional buildings, and furnishings.

I also look to hear the answers. But, from what they said when voting on the purchase, it would appear it is to help the communities that have been needing this school for a very long time.

I would hope that when they close, that they will quickly announce the plans and the community engagement.

DP. I don't think they've made a compelling case yet this was a needed purchase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And, some see it as the first thing that FCPS has done right.

It is a bargain and it is needed. When a renovation/expansion at a high school costs $300 million, it is hard to deny it is a bargain: land, school building, 2 additional buildings, and furnishings.

I also look to hear the answers. But, from what they said when voting on the purchase, it would appear it is to help the communities that have been needing this school for a very long time.

I would hope that when they close, that they will quickly announce the plans and the community engagement.

They are also on record as saying that it might be a magnet school, right? How do you reconcile that statement with your hope that it’s a neighborhood school?