Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

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Anonymous wrote:The stuff that went on there is basically the same as the stuff that went on in most fraternies for decades. A lot of aging former frat bros with political aspirations are probably having second thoughts now.

GOOD. This is exactly what I want. We have many qualified people in this country who deserve to be elected to the highest offices in the land, who have NOT assaulted others.

[jsteele]

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Lol. You have no idea how much he did or didn’t drink. This whole thing is bullshit. He’s qualified and will be confirmed.

can't believe you're a real person

I am and a woman and a Democrat who voted for Hillary. Also a lawyer. This campaign is transparently political and the allegations are drafted to be vague guilt-by-association nonsense with timing that is ridiculously and transparently politically-motivated. It’s a campaign to discredit him based on him being at parties where bad things may have happened. You are a sheep and a part of the brainless mob for believing this stuff.

sorry, don't believe you

LMAO. Go ask Jeff to check my IP. I posted tons in favor of Hillary. Is it really so unbelievable that I can think for my damn self and see that this campaign is vague and baseless. I’m a woman who can think for herself, thank you very much. I read and think critically and can see this latest #metoo campaign for what it is.

This poster asked other posters to ask me to check the poster's IP address. Two posters asked. So I checked and this poster has claimed to be a Hillary supporter in the past. However, the poster also claims to have been impressed by the Jordan Peterson videos and to have "seen the light" as a result. The poster also support the "Walk Away" movement which doesn't really exist.

Jeff, has she only claimed to be a Hillary supporter in the past or her behaviors (original posting supporting Hillary, defending Hillary/praising Hillary on other post) in the past proves she is a Hillary supporter. I can say I am Trump supporter multiple time on posts while questioning all kind of crap policies by his administration here. That would not make me a Trump supporter, rather would make me a fake to buy in Trump supporters trust. Please respond. And thanks for what you do!

I super love that you are so thoroughly floored that I did indeed support Hillary. What is seriously wrong with you that you cannot fathom disagreement in your own party? I don’t know how far back Jeff can look at posts but I posted a LOT on here in favor of Hillary during the campaign.

On another note, I find it incredible that posters turn to Mr. Steele for background on people who post here and he happily obliges. I think it is HIS way of trying to discredit some of the people who post here.

The poster told them to ask me. I actually ignored the first request. After the second request I decided to check because I believed the poster and I expected to confirm that the poster was a Hillary supporter. I was surprised to find out that she was also Jordan Peterson supporter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The stuff that went on there is basically the same as the stuff that went on in most fraternies for decades. A lot of aging former frat bros with political aspirations are probably having second thoughts now.

Yikes. Now I know why my intuition told me to not even walk down the street where “frat row” was by myself at night!

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Because she was a teenager? Were you ever a teenager?

In answer to your question, no, the affidavit doesn't address that question.

Yes, I was a teenager and if I saw guys gang raping a girl there's no way in hell I would choose to go to parties with them.

There you go. You would make different choices than she did. Does that make her a liar, or an idiot, or just a different person than you?

Oh come on, your assertion is insane. No woman in her right mind would continue to hang out and go to parties with guys whom she believed participated in gang rape.

Would a 30 year old? Probably not. On the other hand, teenagers do dangerous things all the time. They think the bad thing won't happen to them.

Exactly. Especially when this seemed like normal behavior for boys. If it seems all the boys are doing this, why would it be viewed as abnormal? I hung around a ton of kids who did drugs. I never joined it but I did feel like it was just normal behavior. Now I am appalled!

I hung out with a wild crowd and I never heard about stuff like this going on. I'd like for some of you to ask your husbands if this is something boys were doing. No way, would this have been considered normal behavior.

Agree! This is outrageous behavior and while it may have been witnessed repeatedly it is not at ALL normal.

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Anonymous wrote:This is almost too outrageous to even be believable. It’s like someone said “let’s come up with a shady sexual allegation to make him go away.” And that didn’t work so then they said “let’s try again just to bolster the first one.” Then when that didn’t work they said “screw it, let’s go for broke. Let’s say he’s actually a serial gang rapist.” I mean, this is like every liberal dystopian fantasy come to life

And yet, for someone who grew up in the area, in the prep school bubble, it's entirely believable. Because it has happened many times. Because I've seen it happen. Because I know so many smarmy lawyers just like Kav who have done the same.

OP here- on the other hand, if this is true then the GOP made the most tragically comical pick for SC. Of all the choices, they pick a gang rapist?!? I’m a conservative and this is dang frustrating! And no I’m not saying the allegations are “comical” so crazies relax

I'm relieved that you, as a conservative, can separate your political preferences from your disappointment at the nomination a Republican Supreme Court Judge who is palpably unfit.
I, as someone who leans left, who be equally disgusted if the nominee was a Democrat and was accused of similar acts. I do not want any abusive person, male or female, Democrat or Republican, on the Supreme Court.
It seems a no-brainer to me to attach credence to the accusers, who are so brave to come forward despite humiliations and threats.

Humans before politics!

Thank you. I am a conservative but I believe in the ideas, not necessarily the people who are supposed to carry them out. As we’ve all seen, they can be very incompetent unfortunately. I mean how hard is it to get a constitutional originalist with a squeaky clean record?

All of this could have been avoided if the Republicans hadn't done away with the filibuster. A candidate who can get 60 votes is going to be a good candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:What is so magical about BK that the Rs want him so much? Seriously they couldn’t find a clean pro life judge? I understand the time crunch now but this could have all been avoided by nominating a supernerd who never left the library.

EXACTLY!!! Like RBG. My mom was at Cornell at the same time as Justice Ginsberg and she says RBG's reputation with her sorority sisters, whom my mom knew, was that all she did was study and hang out with her boyfriend (and future husband). RBG was a super nerd, excatly the kind of person who should be on the Supreme Court, not a hard-partying high school and college drunk.

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the difference between a "train" and threesome or some other variation of group sex? I remember in the early 90's threesomes becoming somewhat in vogue. I even had a friend who had sex with two guys at once (and no, she wasn't drugged or tricked into it). What is the difference between a train and this? And what makes a train equivalent to gang rape whereas other forms of group sex are just kinky behavior?

three people having consensual sex - You don't need that explained.

A train is when one person is held down and the rapists take turns raping the victim, one after another, like an evil conga line. Men have been victims of rape trains as well. In places where rape is used as a weapon of war, this happens as well. There are many victim statements about this from the victims in the Bosnian war and in Africa recently. It is beyond horrible and there is no surprise that Amnesty International has spoken against confirming Kavanaugh.

This is no longer about politics. It is about criminal activities that are so terrible they are usually heard of in war torn areas.

Oh, please. Amnesty International? That is just a joke of a position for them to take.
You would think that had these events happened, SOMEBODY would have reported them to the police. JUST ONE PERSON.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is almost too outrageous to even be believable. It’s like someone said “let’s come up with a shady sexual allegation to make him go away.” And that didn’t work so then they said “let’s try again just to bolster the first one.” Then when that didn’t work they said “screw it, let’s go for broke. Let’s say he’s actually a serial gang rapist.” I mean, this is like every liberal dystopian fantasy come to life

She graduated in a public high school in Gaithersburg in 1980, three years before the judge did. No way she was even in the social circle of the prep boys.

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So, looking ahead here to the future of Republican Senators who have expressed their opinion today that the latest accusation is another Democrat scam.

Do you think they will face political backlash?

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Anonymous wrote:Some of y'all's victim-blaming is starting to sound like the Taliban. Under Shari'a law, the testimony of the woman about her rape is not enough. What she needs is the corroborating eye-witness testimony of 4 males to accuse her rapist. Is that what you'd like to see in America?

Um, no. We have (1) rape kits, (2) ability to report rape contemporaneously, and (3) what’s more, even if reporting late, the ability to do that not on the time table of Democratics who are trying to gin up enthusiasm for midterms.

But we lack people to process the rape kits.

And did you know that in the past, evidence from these kits have been largely mishandled by investigators?

Sometimes, yes. The system is not perfect, obviously. You can still go to the doctor/police/even your parents (had any woman said she even told an adult?)

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Anonymous wrote:America 2018 where you are guilty based on words and not evidence.

If a women up for confirmation have her career derailed because at Mardi Gras she flashed her boobs in my face?

Let me know if you think her career would be derailed if multiple witnesses came forward to testify that she:
1)Flashed her boobs in your face
2)Wrestled you to the bed and kept you from screaming aloud while grinding you and trying to strip off your clothes
3)Targeted you as a sexual victim by spiking your drink so that you would pass out and a train of people could molest your unconscious body. And did this to others, too.
4)Publicly lied about it and claimed her high school years and those following were pure as the driven snow.

As said, words have convicted him not evidence.

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So, looking ahead here to the future of Republican Senators who have expressed their opinion today that the latest accusation is another Democrat scam.

Do you think they will face political backlash?

No. I think Democrats will, though, esp. among men. This is mob justice identity politics laid bare. People have had enough.

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the difference between a "train" and threesome or some other variation of group sex? I remember in the early 90's threesomes becoming somewhat in vogue. I even had a friend who had sex with two guys at once (and no, she wasn't drugged or tricked into it). What is the difference between a train and this? And what makes a train equivalent to gang rape whereas other forms of group sex are just kinky behavior?

three people having consensual sex - You don't need that explained.

A train is when one person is held down and the rapists take turns raping the victim, one after another, like an evil conga line. Men have been victims of rape trains as well. In places where rape is used as a weapon of war, this happens as well. There are many victim statements about this from the victims in the Bosnian war and in Africa recently. It is beyond horrible and there is no surprise that Amnesty International has spoken against confirming Kavanaugh.

This is no longer about politics. It is about criminal activities that are so terrible they are usually heard of in war torn areas.

Oh, please. Amnesty International? That is just a joke of a position for them to take.
You would think that had these events happened, SOMEBODY would have reported them to the police. JUST ONE PERSON.

We're tired of explaining all the reasons why. Just scroll through the thread, or go to the NYT to read exactly why victims don't immediately come forward.
At this point you're a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:This is almost too outrageous to even be believable. It’s like someone said “let’s come up with a shady sexual allegation to make him go away.” And that didn’t work so then they said “let’s try again just to bolster the first one.” Then when that didn’t work they said “screw it, let’s go for broke. Let’s say he’s actually a serial gang rapist.” I mean, this is like every liberal dystopian fantasy come to life

She graduated in a public high school in Gaithersburg in 1980, three years before the judge did. No way she was even in the social circle of the prep boys.

Wow, you have personal knowledge of these people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The stuff that went on there is basically the same as the stuff that went on in most fraternies for decades. A lot of aging former frat bros with political aspirations are probably having second thoughts now.

Aside from actual assault, they don't need to do more than explain that they regret their msygenistic behavior, regret they particpated in or laughted at sexists views of girls that were par for the course in the 80s and are still with us a lesser degree now, regret that they weren't forsighted enough to stand up to this culture and call it out, and claim thet youth doesn't excuse it, rather youth culture needs to change and is changing.

BK won't do that. If he is not lying about being a virgin, it means he played along enough (his yearbook!) but kept his hands clean. Maybe part of him knew it was wrong. If he spoke up now about his own misguided cowardice as a youth, and I would have less compunction about his being a supreme court judge.