Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

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Anonymous wrote:What is so magical about BK that the Rs want him so much? Seriously they couldn’t find a clean pro life judge? I understand the time crunch now but this could have all been avoided by nominating a supernerd who never left the library.

AMEN! +1,000,000

I have heard more than enough. Even IF the sexual allegations are false or exaggerated or politically motivated, there is more than enough undisputed information about Brett Kavanaugh to convince me is not the best person for the job.

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The stuff that went on there is basically the same as the stuff that went on in most fraternies for decades. A lot of aging former frat bros with political aspirations are probably having second thoughts now.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of y'all's victim-blaming is starting to sound like the Taliban. Under Shari'a law, the testimony of the woman about her rape is not enough. What she needs is the corroborating eye-witness testimony of 4 males to accuse her rapist. Is that what you'd like to see in America?

Um, no. We have (1) rape kits, (2) ability to report rape contemporaneously, and (3) what’s more, even if reporting late, the ability to do that not on the time table of Democratics who are trying to gin up enthusiasm for midterms.

But we lack people to process the rape kits.

And did you know that in the past, evidence from these kits have been largely mishandled by investigators?

Yes because men protect each other.

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Because she was a teenager? Were you ever a teenager?

In answer to your question, no, the affidavit doesn't address that question.

Yes, I was a teenager and if I saw guys gang raping a girl there's no way in hell I would choose to go to parties with them.

There you go. You would make different choices than she did. Does that make her a liar, or an idiot, or just a different person than you?

Oh come on, your assertion is insane. No woman in her right mind would continue to hang out and go to parties with guys whom she believed participated in gang rape.

Would a 30 year old? Probably not. On the other hand, teenagers do dangerous things all the time. They think the bad thing won't happen to them.

Exactly. Especially when this seemed like normal behavior for boys. If it seems all the boys are doing this, why would it be viewed as abnormal? I hung around a ton of kids who did drugs. I never joined it but I did feel like it was just normal behavior. Now I am appalled!

No... this has never been normal behavior for boys! This is not just about sex. This is ultra predatory and entitled behavior. Like, Lord of the Flies shit. This girl was a public school girl hanging out at parties in which rich prep school boys were running amok. Teenagers make bad choices all the time, and the poor girl made a really bad choice in believing she was invincible.

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Anonymous wrote:Judge needs to be pulled out from hiding and come forward with what he knows.

Yes! I don't understand the process for congressional subpoena. Can a Dem do it?

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Lol. You have no idea how much he did or didn’t drink. This whole thing is bullshit. He’s qualified and will be confirmed.

can't believe you're a real person

I am and a woman and a Democrat who voted for Hillary. Also a lawyer. This campaign is transparently political and the allegations are drafted to be vague guilt-by-association nonsense with timing that is ridiculously and transparently politically-motivated. It’s a campaign to discredit him based on him being at parties where bad things may have happened. You are a sheep and a part of the brainless mob for believing this stuff.

sorry, don't believe you

LMAO. Go ask Jeff to check my IP. I posted tons in favor of Hillary. Is it really so unbelievable that I can think for my damn self and see that this campaign is vague and baseless. I’m a woman who can think for herself, thank you very much. I read and think critically and can see this latest #metoo campaign for what it is.

This poster asked other posters to ask me to check the poster's IP address. Two posters asked. So I checked and this poster has claimed to be a Hillary supporter in the past. However, the poster also claims to have been impressed by the Jordan Peterson videos and to have "seen the light" as a result. The poster also support the "Walk Away" movement which doesn't really exist.

Jeff, has she only claimed to be a Hillary supporter in the past or her behaviors (original posting supporting Hillary, defending Hillary/praising Hillary on other post) in the past proves she is a Hillary supporter. I can say I am Trump supporter multiple time on posts while questioning all kind of crap policies by his administration here. That would not make me a Trump supporter, rather would make me a fake to buy in Trump supporters trust. Please respond. And thanks for what you do!

I super love that you are so thoroughly floored that I did indeed support Hillary. What is seriously wrong with you that you cannot fathom disagreement in your own party? I don’t know how far back Jeff can look at posts but I posted a LOT on here in favor of Hillary during the campaign.

On another note, I find it incredible that posters turn to Mr. Steele for background on people who post here and he happily obliges. I think it is HIS way of trying to discredit some of the people who post here.

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Anonymous wrote:The stuff that went on there is basically the same as the stuff that went on in most fraternies for decades. A lot of aging former frat bros with political aspirations are probably having second thoughts now.

As they should be.

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Anonymous wrote:What is so magical about BK that the Rs want him so much? Seriously they couldn’t find a clean pro life judge? I understand the time crunch now but this could have all been avoided by nominating a supernerd who never left the library.

Goresuch was probably a virgin until 30. Suddenly, being an old virgin is as asset.

Revenge of the nerds!

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Anonymous wrote:This is almost too outrageous to even be believable. It’s like someone said “let’s come up with a shady sexual allegation to make him go away.” And that didn’t work so then they said “let’s try again just to bolster the first one.” Then when that didn’t work they said “screw it, let’s go for broke. Let’s say he’s actually a serial gang rapist.” I mean, this is like every liberal dystopian fantasy come to life

And yet, for someone who grew up in the area, in the prep school bubble, it's entirely believable. Because it has happened many times. Because I've seen it happen. Because I know so many smarmy lawyers just like Kav who have done the same.

OP here- on the other hand, if this is true then the GOP made the most tragically comical pick for SC. Of all the choices, they pick a gang rapist?!? I’m a conservative and this is dang frustrating! And no I’m not saying the allegations are “comical” so crazies relax

I'm relieved that you, as a conservative, can separate your political preferences from your disappointment at the nomination a Republican Supreme Court Judge who is palpably unfit.
I, as someone who leans left, who be equally disgusted if the nominee was a Democrat and was accused of similar acts. I do not want any abusive person, male or female, Democrat or Republican, on the Supreme Court.
It seems a no-brainer to me to attach credence to the accusers, who are so brave to come forward despite humiliations and threats.

Humans before politics!

Thank you. I am a conservative but I believe in the ideas, not necessarily the people who are supposed to carry them out. As we’ve all seen, they can be very incompetent unfortunately. I mean how hard is it to get a constitutional originalist with a squeaky clean record?

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Did teenagers think this was rape in '82? They knew not to drink the punch. They would talk about it in the halls at school. But did they know it was rape? Or was it just something they didn't want to have happen to them?

She said she was the victim of a rape at one of these parties--and, yet she continued to attend them.......

She also does not accuse Kavanaugh of rape. She implies it, but does not accuse him.

And, Gaithersburg was considered pretty rural in those days.

Gaithersburg was rural? What the everloving f*** does that have to do with anything? Is that the best you can do?

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Because she was a teenager? Were you ever a teenager?

In answer to your question, no, the affidavit doesn't address that question.

Yes, I was a teenager and if I saw guys gang raping a girl there's no way in hell I would choose to go to parties with them.

There you go. You would make different choices than she did. Does that make her a liar, or an idiot, or just a different person than you?

Oh come on, your assertion is insane. No woman in her right mind would continue to hang out and go to parties with guys whom she believed participated in gang rape.

Would a 30 year old? Probably not. On the other hand, teenagers do dangerous things all the time. They think the bad thing won't happen to them.

Exactly. Especially when this seemed like normal behavior for boys. If it seems all the boys are doing this, why would it be viewed as abnormal? I hung around a ton of kids who did drugs. I never joined it but I did feel like it was just normal behavior. Now I am appalled!

I hung out with a wild crowd and I never heard about stuff like this going on. I'd like for some of you to ask your husbands if this is something boys were doing. No way, would this have been considered normal behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:This is almost too outrageous to even be believable. It’s like someone said “let’s come up with a shady sexual allegation to make him go away.” And that didn’t work so then they said “let’s try again just to bolster the first one.” Then when that didn’t work they said “screw it, let’s go for broke. Let’s say he’s actually a serial gang rapist.” I mean, this is like every liberal dystopian fantasy come to life

And yet, for someone who grew up in the area, in the prep school bubble, it's entirely believable. Because it has happened many times. Because I've seen it happen. Because I know so many smarmy lawyers just like Kav who have done the same.

OP here- on the other hand, if this is true then the GOP made the most tragically comical pick for SC. Of all the choices, they pick a gang rapist?!? I’m a conservative and this is dang frustrating! And no I’m not saying the allegations are “comical” so crazies relax

Assuming this was true, how were they supposed to know they were picking a gang rapist?

That's what deep background check is about. If they had bothered to talk to people (who are not Kavanaug's buddies), there is highly likely they would have known.

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Lol. You have no idea how much he did or didn’t drink. This whole thing is bullshit. He’s qualified and will be confirmed.

can't believe you're a real person

I am and a woman and a Democrat who voted for Hillary. Also a lawyer. This campaign is transparently political and the allegations are drafted to be vague guilt-by-association nonsense with timing that is ridiculously and transparently politically-motivated. It’s a campaign to discredit him based on him being at parties where bad things may have happened. You are a sheep and a part of the brainless mob for believing this stuff.

sorry, don't believe you

LMAO. Go ask Jeff to check my IP. I posted tons in favor of Hillary. Is it really so unbelievable that I can think for my damn self and see that this campaign is vague and baseless. I’m a woman who can think for herself, thank you very much. I read and think critically and can see this latest #metoo campaign for what it is.

This poster asked other posters to ask me to check the poster's IP address. Two posters asked. So I checked and this poster has claimed to be a Hillary supporter in the past. However, the poster also claims to have been impressed by the Jordan Peterson videos and to have "seen the light" as a result. The poster also support the "Walk Away" movement which doesn't really exist.

Jeff, has she only claimed to be a Hillary supporter in the past or her behaviors (original posting supporting Hillary, defending Hillary/praising Hillary on other post) in the past proves she is a Hillary supporter. I can say I am Trump supporter multiple time on posts while questioning all kind of crap policies by his administration here. That would not make me a Trump supporter, rather would make me a fake to buy in Trump supporters trust. Please respond. And thanks for what you do!

I super love that you are so thoroughly floored that I did indeed support Hillary. What is seriously wrong with you that you cannot fathom disagreement in your own party? I don’t know how far back Jeff can look at posts but I posted a LOT on here in favor of Hillary during the campaign.

On another note, I find it incredible that posters turn to Mr. Steele for background on people who post here and he happily obliges. I think it is HIS way of trying to discredit some of the people who post here.

I would point out that that poster asked him to verify her previous posts.

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the difference between a "train" and threesome or some other variation of group sex? I remember in the early 90's threesomes becoming somewhat in vogue. I even had a friend who had sex with two guys at once (and no, she wasn't drugged or tricked into it). What is the difference between a train and this? And what makes a train equivalent to gang rape whereas other forms of group sex are just kinky behavior?

three people having consensual sex - You don't need that explained.

A train is when one person is held down and the rapists take turns raping the victim, one after another, like an evil conga line. Men have been victims of rape trains as well. In places where rape is used as a weapon of war, this happens as well. There are many victim statements about this from the victims in the Bosnian war and in Africa recently. It is beyond horrible and there is no surprise that Amnesty International has spoken against confirming Kavanaugh.

This is no longer about politics. It is about criminal activities that are so terrible they are usually heard of in war torn areas.

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Anonymous wrote:What is so magical about BK that the Rs want him so much? Seriously they couldn’t find a clean pro life judge? I understand the time crunch now but this could have all been avoided by nominating a supernerd who never left the library.

AMEN! +1,000,000

I have heard more than enough. Even IF the sexual allegations are false or exaggerated or politically motivated, there is more than enough undisputed information about Brett Kavanaugh to convince me is not the best person for the job.

Or even a good person for the job.