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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

They will buy an office building somewhere and turn it into a new MS.

Yep, it's very easy to find space for schools in this area and convert them into fully functioning facilities overnight.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

This is just Kyle's way of wussing out with a fake excuse. Between the condos that high schoolers will never live in and the fake bus times, he's lying out of every orifice in his body.

All because it doesn't fit your narrative...let me guess all 2,000 units in Oakton will produce students?

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Carson, Franklin, and Thoreau are all currently three-way splits, and they haven't proposed anything that would eliminate the three-way split at Thoreau.

Carson is turning into the Skyview feeder and Franklin will only be a two way split.

Hence the word “currently.” The changes at Carson and Franklin are highly likely but not yet effective. And they aren’t doing anything about the Thoreau three-way split feeder.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

This is just Kyle's way of wussing out with a fake excuse. Between the condos that high schoolers will never live in and the fake bus times, he's lying out of every orifice in his body.

All because it doesn't fit your narrative...let me guess all 2,000 units in Oakton will produce students?

DP. Isn’t the new housing in the Oakton area largely townhouses vs. more apartments in Reston zoned to South Lakes? Townhouses yield more kids than apartments especially if the apartments are 2-BR or less.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

This is just Kyle's way of wussing out with a fake excuse. Between the condos that high schoolers will never live in and the fake bus times, he's lying out of every orifice in his body.

All because it doesn't fit your narrative...let me guess all 2,000 units in Oakton will produce students?

DP. Isn’t the new housing in the Oakton area largely townhouses vs. more apartments in Reston zoned to South Lakes? Townhouses yield more kids than apartments especially if the apartments are 2-BR or less.

Who knows? What we do know is there is current building now in Oakton that appears to be contuing for the immediate future. Reston? Mostly talk.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

There is not room at Hughes. I think if there had been, Fox Mill would have been moved to Hughes and stayed at SLHS. Crossfield might have been moved to Skyview then. I think that the desire to eliminate split feeders was strong enough that they couldn't find the space for FMES at Hughes and justify having one ES move from Carson to SLHS when the rest of Carson went to Skyview.

I think that the combination of FMES families wanting to move and the lack of space at Hughes played a role in the final choice.

Which is why moving Crossfield in the future will be much more difficult than this board would have you believe.

I think they are much more likely to move Navy out of Oakton in the future than Crossfield. Either to Chantilly or Fairfax.

And you think Navy parents won't fight harder than crossfield parents? And those parents in the area bumped out from Chantilly won't fight hard either?

It’s a bit ridiculous to imagine a potential turf war at least five years out when we have no idea what utilization levels will look like. If there is one thing this process has taught us is that what DCUM posters think will happen almost never does.

This is true, but in our collective defense some of us assumed the School Board would act with more integrity and greater fidelity to the principles set forth in Policy 8130 than turned out to be the case.

What we've learned instead is that the School Board changes some boundaries randomly just so they can say they "did something," while simultaneously protecting those who scream the loudest and have the most resources to organize.

So county residents will bring more cynicism to the table in the future - not just about boundary changes but about FCPS and Fairfax County generally. If that's what the Board of Supervisors and the School Board want to encourage, they are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

There is not room at Hughes. I think if there had been, Fox Mill would have been moved to Hughes and stayed at SLHS. Crossfield might have been moved to Skyview then. I think that the desire to eliminate split feeders was strong enough that they couldn't find the space for FMES at Hughes and justify having one ES move from Carson to SLHS when the rest of Carson went to Skyview.

I think that the combination of FMES families wanting to move and the lack of space at Hughes played a role in the final choice.

Which is why moving Crossfield in the future will be much more difficult than this board would have you believe.

I think they are much more likely to move Navy out of Oakton in the future than Crossfield. Either to Chantilly or Fairfax.

And you think Navy parents won't fight harder than crossfield parents? And those parents in the area bumped out from Chantilly won't fight hard either?

It’s a bit ridiculous to imagine a potential turf war at least five years out when we have no idea what utilization levels will look like. If there is one thing this process has taught us is that what DCUM posters think will happen almost never does.

This is true, but in our collective defense some of us assumed the School Board would act with more integrity and greater fidelity to the principles set forth in Policy 8130 than turned out to be the case.

What we've learned instead is that the School Board changes some boundaries randomly just so they can say they "did something," while simultaneously protecting those who scream the loudest and have the most resources to organize.

So county residents will bring more cynicism to the table in the future - not just about boundary changes but about FCPS and Fairfax County generally. If that's what the Board of Supervisors and the School Board want to encourage, they are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.

Oh look, it’s the serial equity poster serially posting about equity.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

There is not room at Hughes. I think if there had been, Fox Mill would have been moved to Hughes and stayed at SLHS. Crossfield might have been moved to Skyview then. I think that the desire to eliminate split feeders was strong enough that they couldn't find the space for FMES at Hughes and justify having one ES move from Carson to SLHS when the rest of Carson went to Skyview.

I think that the combination of FMES families wanting to move and the lack of space at Hughes played a role in the final choice.

Which is why moving Crossfield in the future will be much more difficult than this board would have you believe.

I think they are much more likely to move Navy out of Oakton in the future than Crossfield. Either to Chantilly or Fairfax.

And you think Navy parents won't fight harder than crossfield parents? And those parents in the area bumped out from Chantilly won't fight hard either?

It’s a bit ridiculous to imagine a potential turf war at least five years out when we have no idea what utilization levels will look like. If there is one thing this process has taught us is that what DCUM posters think will happen almost never does.

This is true, but in our collective defense some of us assumed the School Board would act with more integrity and greater fidelity to the principles set forth in Policy 8130 than turned out to be the case.

What we've learned instead is that the School Board changes some boundaries randomly just so they can say they "did something," while simultaneously protecting those who scream the loudest and have the most resources to organize.

So county residents will bring more cynicism to the table in the future - not just about boundary changes but about FCPS and Fairfax County generally. If that's what the Board of Supervisors and the School Board want to encourage, they are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.

Oh look, it’s the serial equity poster serially posting about equity.

DP then the one you are quoting. You don’t have to be an equity poster to see that Westfield is getting screwed and for no good reason. It is a good school, similar to Centreville but people are dumping on it like it is something to be avoided. It has a great music program, excellent sports, and a really strong AP program. There is no real reason to be avoiding Westfield. I get that people don’t like change but the school board moving only poor neighborhoods into Westfield as backfull and leaving Centreville over capacity is a horrifically bad look.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

There is not room at Hughes. I think if there had been, Fox Mill would have been moved to Hughes and stayed at SLHS. Crossfield might have been moved to Skyview then. I think that the desire to eliminate split feeders was strong enough that they couldn't find the space for FMES at Hughes and justify having one ES move from Carson to SLHS when the rest of Carson went to Skyview.

I think that the combination of FMES families wanting to move and the lack of space at Hughes played a role in the final choice.

Which is why moving Crossfield in the future will be much more difficult than this board would have you believe.

I think they are much more likely to move Navy out of Oakton in the future than Crossfield. Either to Chantilly or Fairfax.

And you think Navy parents won't fight harder than crossfield parents? And those parents in the area bumped out from Chantilly won't fight hard either?

It’s a bit ridiculous to imagine a potential turf war at least five years out when we have no idea what utilization levels will look like. If there is one thing this process has taught us is that what DCUM posters think will happen almost never does.

This is true, but in our collective defense some of us assumed the School Board would act with more integrity and greater fidelity to the principles set forth in Policy 8130 than turned out to be the case.

What we've learned instead is that the School Board changes some boundaries randomly just so they can say they "did something," while simultaneously protecting those who scream the loudest and have the most resources to organize.

So county residents will bring more cynicism to the table in the future - not just about boundary changes but about FCPS and Fairfax County generally. If that's what the Board of Supervisors and the School Board want to encourage, they are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.

Oh look, it’s the serial equity poster serially posting about equity.

DP then the one you are quoting. You don’t have to be an equity poster to see that Westfield is getting screwed and for no good reason. It is a good school, similar to Centreville but people are dumping on it like it is something to be avoided. It has a great music program, excellent sports, and a really strong AP program. There is no real reason to be avoiding Westfield. I get that people don’t like change but the school board moving only poor neighborhoods into Westfield as backfull and leaving Centreville over capacity is a horrifically bad look.

DP here

If the poorest were the closest, I would be okay with this. i cannot speak for the Centreiville people, but i am familiar with the Chantilly area. There is no excuse--none--to send the kids on Route 50 who can WALK to Chantilly, if needed.
Walney area is halfway. Sure, I understand wanting to stay at Chantilly, but some already go to Cub Run (which is Westfield feeder.) It makes not sense to send the kids who will be put at an extreme disadvantage to Westfield. Transportation is a huge issue. Truancy will be an issue. After school activities? forgetabout it.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

There is not room at Hughes. I think if there had been, Fox Mill would have been moved to Hughes and stayed at SLHS. Crossfield might have been moved to Skyview then. I think that the desire to eliminate split feeders was strong enough that they couldn't find the space for FMES at Hughes and justify having one ES move from Carson to SLHS when the rest of Carson went to Skyview.

I think that the combination of FMES families wanting to move and the lack of space at Hughes played a role in the final choice.

Which is why moving Crossfield in the future will be much more difficult than this board would have you believe.

I think they are much more likely to move Navy out of Oakton in the future than Crossfield. Either to Chantilly or Fairfax.

And you think Navy parents won't fight harder than crossfield parents? And those parents in the area bumped out from Chantilly won't fight hard either?

It’s a bit ridiculous to imagine a potential turf war at least five years out when we have no idea what utilization levels will look like. If there is one thing this process has taught us is that what DCUM posters think will happen almost never does.

This is true, but in our collective defense some of us assumed the School Board would act with more integrity and greater fidelity to the principles set forth in Policy 8130 than turned out to be the case.

What we've learned instead is that the School Board changes some boundaries randomly just so they can say they "did something," while simultaneously protecting those who scream the loudest and have the most resources to organize.

So county residents will bring more cynicism to the table in the future - not just about boundary changes but about FCPS and Fairfax County generally. If that's what the Board of Supervisors and the School Board want to encourage, they are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.

Oh look, it’s the serial equity poster serially posting about equity.

The post to which you’re responding doesn’t say anything about “equity.”

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I’m assuming the PP finds any suggestion that FCPS should try to treat schools and neighborhoods fairly to be deeply offensive. Hmm, wonder why?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m assuming the PP finds any suggestion that FCPS should try to treat schools and neighborhoods fairly to be deeply offensive. Hmm, wonder why?

When you are used to $$ privilege, equality seems like injustice.

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The 2005 boundary adjustments that occurred when South County opened up caused Lee / Lewis to lose about three-hundred students. Dropped from over 2100 to 18XX. The ESL rate and FR lunch rate went up considerably and enrollment has continued to drop over the years. They also made another boundary change that took Daventry (relatively wealthy for the pyramid) out of Lee and moved them to West Springfield. Next year Lewis will barely clear 1400 students. And we know what people on this board think about Lewis.

The changes being made now could eventually lead to similar issues at Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2005 boundary adjustments that occurred when South County opened up caused Lee / Lewis to lose about three-hundred students. Dropped from over 2100 to 18XX. The ESL rate and FR lunch rate went up considerably and enrollment has continued to drop over the years. They also made another boundary change that took Daventry (relatively wealthy for the pyramid) out of Lee and moved them to West Springfield. Next year Lewis will barely clear 1400 students. And we know what people on this board think about Lewis.

The changes being made now could eventually lead to similar issues at Westfield.

Certainly, if Westfield is sitting at 40+% FARMS rate right next to Chantilly at 10% and Centreville at 20%---both those schools will be a lot more attractive with a lot more academic programming, course options, etc. Families with means can figure out a way to get their kids out of their zoned school and into the very close by better school.