Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

Poor Joe, given his size and martial arts training he may have had a false sense of security in these situations.

I honestly would not be surprised if BB pressured C to do it for his birthday. But, maybe it was something they had done before, we'll likely never know. But, per his friend, Joe had not known them. long.

The idea of BB and AP plotting and scheming for months to murder 2 humans in cold blood makes me sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More outlets are picking up the story re: prelim.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13264289/au-pair-accused-murder-plot-virginia.html

Finally! Glad to know this case is getting the needed attention regarding this double murder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be pissed if the AP was offered citizenship for cooperation. She murdered a US citizen while a guest in this country!

The state can offer her incentives like serving time in her own country or much reduced time here in the US, but she doesn’t deserve citizenship.

If she was a victim of violent crime or trafficking or abuse she would already be eligible to apply under those conditions - but she’s not. Getting duped into committing murder by your psychopath boyfriend doesn’t make you a victim of crime, it just makes you absent a moral core or general intelligence.

Oh my God. This stupid idea has been debunked like three times. We can stop talking about it now.

[Anonymous]

Attention won't help them pin the stabbing on BB, alas.

Say he is not arrested for years. What happens to the IRS job? Is any LE related job out? Previously he had worked for the IRS in a non-LE capacity, since he is on leave are they under any obligation to move him to a different position? Anyone know how it would work in a fed job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone using initials? This isn't websleuths.

Because the initials save time and are faster than typing out the full names.

You aren't too bright.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone using initials? This isn't websleuths.

Because the initials save time and are faster than typing out the full names.

You aren't too bright.

dude, don't be a dbag.

Its a reasonable question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone using initials? This isn't websleuths.

Because the initials save time and are faster than typing out the full names.

You aren't too bright.

dude, don't be a dbag.

Its a reasonable question.

Is it? DP, DD, DH, DS, etc are used regularly on this site. Along with AP for affair partner. Its a weird thing to get hung up on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The profile on the dating app was created on CB’s computer, ok! But someone must have communicated with JR before he got to the house, or even to set up a date.
With both CB’s and JR’s phones in hand, I find it hard to believe this is a difficult thing to figure out.

It's been talked about multiple times on this thread... even before LE talked about it publicly, one of Joe's friends posted here and on Reddit that Joe had told him he met someone on the website and was going to be meeting up with a couple in a kink/cuck situation later that week.

Hopefully that friend is called as a witness. That would be pretty crucial to the implication that BB has some part in planning this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Attention won't help them pin the stabbing on BB, alas.

Say he is not arrested for years. What happens to the IRS job? Is any LE related job out? Previously he had worked for the IRS in a non-LE capacity, since he is on leave are they under any obligation to move him to a different position? Anyone know how it would work in a fed job?

At this point, the status of his fed job is another unanswered question. He might be on admin leave or he may have separated from the G.
I suspect the following has happened:

1. The IRS would turn the case over to TIGTA for investigation.
2. TIGTA interviews BB and starts out with a Kalkines admonishment.
3. BB on the advice of counsel refuses to answer questions.
4. IRS management directs BB to answer questions.
5. BB on the advice of counsel refuses to answer questions.
6. BB is placed on admin leave for refusing to follow a directive, BB separates from the G.

I've seen a circumstance where an agent is moved to a different position. IMO This isn't one of those circumstances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many unanswered questions. Especially about CB not having clothes on. That would have to be perfectly timed by BB for Joe to show up when she was in the shower. And how hard would it have been to take her clothes off her after she was wounded?

Another horrifying thought is the amount of time that elapsed between just CB and Joe before the others showed up. What did they both think was going on? Did he think he was role playing and she thought she was actually being assaulted?

I know no one has answers. I assume so much of this timeline doesn't make sense because we don't know the evidence. I hope LE has it.

She was not stabbed and then disrobed. If that were the case, the medical examiner would have identified fabric fibers in her wounds. She had to have been stabbed nude. Horrific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone using initials? This isn't websleuths.

Because the initials save time and are faster than typing out the full names.

You aren't too bright.

dude, don't be a dbag.

Its a reasonable question.

No. It's really not.

As to the PP who mentioned other common abbreviations -- I actually thought that in this thread, "AP" stood for Au Pair.... which is the same as "Affair Partner" in this case. But, I was using it as "au pair" b/c Juliana ----- Malgaheas is too much to write.

[Anonymous]

^ in this case AP works either way - she was the au pair AND the affair partner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone using initials? This isn't websleuths.

Because the initials save time and are faster than typing out the full names.

You aren't too bright.

dude, don't be a dbag.

Its a reasonable question.

No. It's really not.

As to the PP who mentioned other common abbreviations -- I actually thought that in this thread, "AP" stood for Au Pair.... which is the same as "Affair Partner" in this case. But, I was using it as "au pair" b/c Juliana ----- Malgaheas is too much to write.

Saying someone isnt too bright because they don't know some weird, site specific, lingo is uncool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The profile on the dating app was created on CB’s computer, ok! But someone must have communicated with JR before he got to the house, or even to set up a date.
With both CB’s and JR’s phones in hand, I find it hard to believe this is a difficult thing to figure out.

It's been talked about multiple times on this thread... even before LE talked about it publicly, one of Joe's friends posted here and on Reddit that Joe had told him he met someone on the website and was going to be meeting up with a couple in a kink/cuck situation later that week.

Hopefully that friend is called as a witness. That would be pretty crucial to the implication that BB has some part in planning this.

Friend only knows what the ruse was. Not who was doing the typing or their motives. Nothing about Fe&life lure is part of the case against AP. BB was only called to testify to be asked uncomfortable questions in public not because he has been charged. They have known since the day of the killing how BB set it in motion, but, nothing puts knife in his hand, so far. Shot in defense of wife, AP fired the kill shot, so far, he skates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Attention won't help them pin the stabbing on BB, alas.

Say he is not arrested for years. What happens to the IRS job? Is any LE related job out? Previously he had worked for the IRS in a non-LE capacity, since he is on leave are they under any obligation to move him to a different position? Anyone know how it would work in a fed job?

At this point, the status of his fed job is another unanswered question. He might be on admin leave or he may have separated from the G.
I suspect the following has happened:

1. The IRS would turn the case over to TIGTA for investigation.
2. TIGTA interviews BB and starts out with a Kalkines admonishment.
3. BB on the advice of counsel refuses to answer questions.
4. IRS management directs BB to answer questions.
5. BB on the advice of counsel refuses to answer questions.
6. BB is placed on admin leave for refusing to follow a directive, BB separates from the G.

I've seen a circumstance where an agent is moved to a different position. IMO This isn't one of those circumstances.

Interesting, thanks. At some point, seems that $ will become an issue. The 2 sets of lawyers alone are not cheap.