Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many unanswered questions. Especially about CB not having clothes on. That would have to be perfectly timed by BB for Joe to show up when she was in the shower. And how hard would it have been to take her clothes off her after she was wounded?

Another horrifying thought is the amount of time that elapsed between just CB and Joe before the others showed up. What did they both think was going on? Did he think he was role playing and she thought she was actually being assaulted?

I know no one has answers. I assume so much of this timeline doesn't make sense because we don't know the evidence. I hope LE has it.

I think for BB to have planned it, CB must have been incapacitated prior to Joe entering the house. It doesn't make sense that the plan would be CB was awake and unaware of Joe arriving. What prevents her from screaming and Joe leaving the house or at least leaving the room. I'd say many men in Joe's position would not keep play acting and how could BB plan around that uncertainty of the CB/Joe interaction especially if he wasn't at the house and had to let that interaction play out before arriving?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I miss my friend Joe. He definitely had some unusual kinks and liked rough sex, but he always got 100% explicit consent prior and also during the act.

Sorry for your loss.

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Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here- if BB fires the first shot, why on earth would he ask the AP to get another gun? Why wouldn’t he, the trained LE, fire the second? If in a juror, what possible reasoning is there for that?

Yep.

2 guns vs 1 knife (if you buy the bs story that JR was the one who actually stabbed CB)
Makes no sense. Even if they try to argue that JR was still alive and trying to fight back. A trained cop (BB) would have just shot him again.

Someone screwed up the original plan. I think AP was supposed to have been the only shooter but choked.

BB was clearly the one that stabbed CB. That takes a certain level of dedication to be able to pull off.

I wonder if AP screwed up original plan by coming back to the house for the lunches?

Are you suggesting that AP screwed up JR's plan to randomly stab some woman he had never met in person?
She just so happened to have recently been trained on how to shoot a gun! Perfect!
She also just so happened to have moved in to the dead woman's bed before it was even cold!
She's such a hero!

NO! I meant maybe AP messed up BB’s plan by coming back for the lunches

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many unanswered questions. Especially about CB not having clothes on. That would have to be perfectly timed by BB for Joe to show up when she was in the shower.

There’s a pretty obvious answer to that that no one in this thread wants to acknowledge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many unanswered questions. Especially about CB not having clothes on. That would have to be perfectly timed by BB for Joe to show up when she was in the shower.

There’s a pretty obvious answer to that that no one in this thread wants to acknowledge.

If AP saw JR going in the door, and she went in with BB minutes later, explain your theory bc the time doesn’t add up.

[Anonymous]

Why is everyone using initials? This isn't websleuths.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many unanswered questions. Especially about CB not having clothes on. That would have to be perfectly timed by BB for Joe to show up when she was in the shower. And how hard would it have been to take her clothes off her after she was wounded?

Another horrifying thought is the amount of time that elapsed between just CB and Joe before the others showed up. What did they both think was going on? Did he think he was role playing and she thought she was actually being assaulted?

I know no one has answers. I assume so much of this timeline doesn't make sense because we don't know the evidence. I hope LE has it.

I think for BB to have planned it, CB must have been incapacitated prior to Joe entering the house. It doesn't make sense that the plan would be CB was awake and unaware of Joe arriving. What prevents her from screaming and Joe leaving the house or at least leaving the room. I'd say many men in Joe's position would not keep play acting and how could BB plan around that uncertainty of the CB/Joe interaction especially if he wasn't at the house and had to let that interaction play out before arriving?

I think she may have known he was coming over. The "scene" could have been to please BB for his birthday. Makes more sense that she would be nude and Rings did not capture screaming, etc. She may have been drugged, we may never know. But, can't rule out she knew and she did not perceive it as a "home invasion."

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Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here- if BB fires the first shot, why on earth would he ask the AP to get another gun? Why wouldn’t he, the trained LE, fire the second? If in a juror, what possible reasoning is there for that?

Yep.

2 guns vs 1 knife (if you buy the bs story that JR was the one who actually stabbed CB)
Makes no sense. Even if they try to argue that JR was still alive and trying to fight back. A trained cop (BB) would have just shot him again.

Someone screwed up the original plan. I think AP was supposed to have been the only shooter but choked.

BB was clearly the one that stabbed CB. That takes a certain level of dedication to be able to pull off.

I wonder if AP screwed up original plan by coming back to the house for the lunches?

Are you suggesting that AP screwed up JR's plan to randomly stab some woman he had never met in person?
She just so happened to have recently been trained on how to shoot a gun! Perfect!
She also just so happened to have moved in to the dead woman's bed before it was even cold!
She's such a hero!

NO! I meant maybe AP messed up BB’s plan by coming back for the lunches

Her coming back was a key PART of the plan. One she was in on.

[Anonymous]

Joe could not have been there long, he was said to be fully clothed per testimony yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I miss my friend Joe. He definitely had some unusual kinks and liked rough sex, but he always got 100% explicit consent prior and also during the act.

Sorry for your loss. Shame he is not still here and that BB is a free man. The details yesterday must have been very difficult for you and his loved ones. I hope that Joe will have justice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many unanswered questions. Especially about CB not having clothes on. That would have to be perfectly timed by BB for Joe to show up when she was in the shower. And how hard would it have been to take her clothes off her after she was wounded?

Another horrifying thought is the amount of time that elapsed between just CB and Joe before the others showed up. What did they both think was going on? Did he think he was role playing and she thought she was actually being assaulted?

I know no one has answers. I assume so much of this timeline doesn't make sense because we don't know the evidence. I hope LE has it.

She was not in the shower.

Joe was fully clothed. He had not been in the house long.

He thought he was there for sex. She may have as well. There have been no reports of Ring cameras picking up screams. It's not clear if she in fact had bought the zoo tickets or if that was also something BB did acting as her on her computer.

[Anonymous]

I would be pissed if the AP was offered citizenship for cooperation. She murdered a US citizen while a guest in this country!

The state can offer her incentives like serving time in her own country or much reduced time here in the US, but she doesn’t deserve citizenship.

If she was a victim of violent crime or trafficking or abuse she would already be eligible to apply under those conditions - but she’s not. Getting duped into committing murder by your psychopath boyfriend doesn’t make you a victim of crime, it just makes you absent a moral core or general intelligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The profile on the dating app was created on CB’s computer, ok! But someone must have communicated with JR before he got to the house, or even to set up a date.
With both CB’s and JR’s phones in hand, I find it hard to believe this is a difficult thing to figure out.

*a computer in the home… “prosecutors said that someone other than Banfield set up an account on a fetish website and that Ryan responded to it“

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/virginia/fairfax-county/defense-prosecution-outline-adult-relationships-activities-at-hearing-for-au-pair-charged-in-reston-murder-fairfax-county-judge-denies-bond/

[Anonymous]

It is not something within the purview of VA to offer, so tame your outrage about something that will never happen. By the time she goes to trial they may offer time served and deportation. Time will tell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The profile on the dating app was created on CB’s computer, ok! But someone must have communicated with JR before he got to the house, or even to set up a date.
With both CB’s and JR’s phones in hand, I find it hard to believe this is a difficult thing to figure out.

It's been talked about multiple times on this thread... even before LE talked about it publicly, one of Joe's friends posted here and on Reddit that Joe had told him he met someone on the website and was going to be meeting up with a couple in a kink/cuck situation later that week.