Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving kids to west springfield from lewis?

Moving the Rolling Valley Lewis students to WSHS and moving other neighborhoods out of WSHS to make room for the Lewis kids has been the Springfield representative's biggest rezoning priority since FCPS started revising policy 8130.

So who is it? Which family supported Anderson or is close to Anderson’s family if this is the case?

We were told that she was advocating for this group because some groups can’t organize and spend time advocating like our group. It was a very surprising statement, because we are also households of busy working parents, who are federal workers, military, teachers, etc. We don’t have any more resources than this RVES pocket.

So, equity??

That doesn't make sense.

That RV neighborhood is just as wealthy as the rest of 22152 and has a similar demographic as the rest of WSHS.

DP. Whenever the school board hears that a community doesn’t want something, they immediately pretend that there is some other silent community who wants the opposite. That way, they can justify screwing over the first community.

For the most part, they just keep revising the proposals to reflect the last group of noisy parents who chewed their ear off. Not sure the end result will be anything like what they claimed they wanted to accomplish.

Comprehensive boundary review is a shitty game of musical chairs.

Every boundary review is musical chairs because every boundary review shifts seats in a zero sum environment.

That's an odd statement. How is it a zero sum environment when they get money every few years for capital projects and boundary changes can be one-way? It's not like they move kids out of every school they move kids into.

DP. It's zero sum for the homeowners depending on which schools they end up with

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving kids to west springfield from lewis?

Moving the Rolling Valley Lewis students to WSHS and moving other neighborhoods out of WSHS to make room for the Lewis kids has been the Springfield representative's biggest rezoning priority since FCPS started revising policy 8130.

So who is it? Which family supported Anderson or is close to Anderson’s family if this is the case?

We were told that she was advocating for this group because some groups can’t organize and spend time advocating like our group. It was a very surprising statement, because we are also households of busy working parents, who are federal workers, military, teachers, etc. We don’t have any more resources than this RVES pocket.

So, equity??

That doesn't make sense.

That RV neighborhood is just as wealthy as the rest of 22152 and has a similar demographic as the rest of WSHS.

DP. Whenever the school board hears that a community doesn’t want something, they immediately pretend that there is some other silent community who wants the opposite. That way, they can justify screwing over the first community.

For the most part, they just keep revising the proposals to reflect the last group of noisy parents who chewed their ear off. Not sure the end result will be anything like what they claimed they wanted to accomplish.

Comprehensive boundary review is a shitty game of musical chairs.

Every boundary review is musical chairs because every boundary review shifts seats in a zero sum environment.

That's an odd statement. How is it a zero sum environment when they get money every few years for capital projects and boundary changes can be one-way? It's not like they move kids out of every school they move kids into.

DP. It's zero sum for the homeowners depending on which schools they end up with

Not necessarily. Could be net positive or net negative depending on how it's done.

[Anonymous]

Will the Governor’s race play a role in what happens with this or future boundary adjustments?

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Governor’s race play a role in what happens with this or future boundary adjustments?

Doubtful

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Governor’s race play a role in what happens with this or future boundary adjustments?

I don’t think so. I think no matter who wins, this round of limited boundary changes (limited compared to what they seemingly wanted to do initially and in comparison to “scenario 3” and the BRAC suggested changes) will go through. However the results of last years Pres. election and the resulting change in the political atmosphere of the whole country definitely put the brakes on big changes for equity that the SB had previously been making noise about since before Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving kids to west springfield from lewis?

Moving the Rolling Valley Lewis students to WSHS and moving other neighborhoods out of WSHS to make room for the Lewis kids has been the Springfield representative's biggest rezoning priority since FCPS started revising policy 8130.

So who is it? Which family supported Anderson or is close to Anderson’s family if this is the case?

We were told that she was advocating for this group because some groups can’t organize and spend time advocating like our group. It was a very surprising statement, because we are also households of busy working parents, who are federal workers, military, teachers, etc. We don’t have any more resources than this RVES pocket.

So, equity??

That doesn't make sense.

That RV neighborhood is just as wealthy as the rest of 22152 and has a similar demographic as the rest of WSHS.

DP. Whenever the school board hears that a community doesn’t want something, they immediately pretend that there is some other silent community who wants the opposite. That way, they can justify screwing over the first community.

For the most part, they just keep revising the proposals to reflect the last group of noisy parents who chewed their ear off. Not sure the end result will be anything like what they claimed they wanted to accomplish.

Comprehensive boundary review is a shitty game of musical chairs.

Every boundary review is musical chairs because every boundary review shifts seats in a zero sum environment.

That's an odd statement. How is it a zero sum environment when they get money every few years for capital projects and boundary changes can be one-way? It's not like they move kids out of every school they move kids into.

DP. It's zero sum for the homeowners depending on which schools they end up with

Not necessarily. Could be net positive or net negative depending on how it's done.

Heavily net negative because potential homeowners will stay away due to the continued uncertainty and existing homeowners will move away, sapping demand for homes in the county. I wish the school board could see that it’s so costly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving kids to west springfield from lewis?

Moving the Rolling Valley Lewis students to WSHS and moving other neighborhoods out of WSHS to make room for the Lewis kids has been the Springfield representative's biggest rezoning priority since FCPS started revising policy 8130.

So who is it? Which family supported Anderson or is close to Anderson’s family if this is the case?

We were told that she was advocating for this group because some groups can’t organize and spend time advocating like our group. It was a very surprising statement, because we are also households of busy working parents, who are federal workers, military, teachers, etc. We don’t have any more resources than this RVES pocket.

So, equity??

That doesn't make sense.

That RV neighborhood is just as wealthy as the rest of 22152 and has a similar demographic as the rest of WSHS.

DP. Whenever the school board hears that a community doesn’t want something, they immediately pretend that there is some other silent community who wants the opposite. That way, they can justify screwing over the first community.

For the most part, they just keep revising the proposals to reflect the last group of noisy parents who chewed their ear off. Not sure the end result will be anything like what they claimed they wanted to accomplish.

Comprehensive boundary review is a shitty game of musical chairs.

Every boundary review is musical chairs because every boundary review shifts seats in a zero sum environment.

That's an odd statement. How is it a zero sum environment when they get money every few years for capital projects and boundary changes can be one-way? It's not like they move kids out of every school they move kids into.

School A loses 100 kids.

School B receives the 100 kids.

-100 from school A

+

+100 to school B

=

0

[Anonymous]

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Many WSHS stand with the Sangster families on this one, even families who think that getting sent to Lake Braddock is a good option, and families who think that Sangster miving yo LB to address overcrowding at WSHS makes sense.

Here is the issue with map 4, that many WSHS families are upset about.

If WSHS is so overcrowded that long term neighborhoods that have been zoned to WSHS for decades, since they were built in most cases, must be moved out now to relieve overcrowding, then not a single house should be move into WSHS.

What the Springfield school board rep is doing now, is picking favorites and insulting her constituents' intelligence, by A) claiming the rezoning is about relieving overcrowding, when clearly it is not since by her stated wishes, she is moving neighborhoods into WSHS and B) gaslighting her constituents by repeatedly arguing that it will only be 20 students, when from the recent Daventry example, we know it will be many times more students than 20.

No one appreciates being taken as a fool, and if it can happen to one neighborhood it can happen to any neighborhood.

I’m another new poster from WSHS that agrees completely. I have kids at WSHS and have been following this issue closely since the beginning. Many families are very emotional at being forced to move, and it’s insulting and bizarre that this RV neighborhood is also moving into WSHS. I’ve heard Sandy Anderson speak on this being a goal of hers at a number of past meetings, and it was tone-deaf and strange. Her manner has been condescending and dismissive to the community. It keeps getting brought up here because SO MANY folks have noticed this. And now it’s happened, and it’s feels like a slap in the face to many people.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving kids to west springfield from lewis?

Moving the Rolling Valley Lewis students to WSHS and moving other neighborhoods out of WSHS to make room for the Lewis kids has been the Springfield representative's biggest rezoning priority since FCPS started revising policy 8130.

So who is it? Which family supported Anderson or is close to Anderson’s family if this is the case?

We were told that she was advocating for this group because some groups can’t organize and spend time advocating like our group. It was a very surprising statement, because we are also households of busy working parents, who are federal workers, military, teachers, etc. We don’t have any more resources than this RVES pocket.

So, equity??

That doesn't make sense.

That RV neighborhood is just as wealthy as the rest of 22152 and has a similar demographic as the rest of WSHS.

DP. Whenever the school board hears that a community doesn’t want something, they immediately pretend that there is some other silent community who wants the opposite. That way, they can justify screwing over the first community.

For the most part, they just keep revising the proposals to reflect the last group of noisy parents who chewed their ear off. Not sure the end result will be anything like what they claimed they wanted to accomplish.

Comprehensive boundary review is a shitty game of musical chairs.

Every boundary review is musical chairs because every boundary review shifts seats in a zero sum environment.

That's an odd statement. How is it a zero sum environment when they get money every few years for capital projects and boundary changes can be one-way? It's not like they move kids out of every school they move kids into.

School A loses 100 kids.

School B receives the 100 kids.

-100 from school A

+

+100 to school B

=

0

Or School L loses 20 kids

+

School WS gains 80 kids

= + 60 kids

Or

School JM loses 90 kids

+

School GCM gains 60 kids

= - 30 kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving kids to west springfield from lewis?

Moving the Rolling Valley Lewis students to WSHS and moving other neighborhoods out of WSHS to make room for the Lewis kids has been the Springfield representative's biggest rezoning priority since FCPS started revising policy 8130.

So who is it? Which family supported Anderson or is close to Anderson’s family if this is the case?

We were told that she was advocating for this group because some groups can’t organize and spend time advocating like our group. It was a very surprising statement, because we are also households of busy working parents, who are federal workers, military, teachers, etc. We don’t have any more resources than this RVES pocket.

So, equity??

That doesn't make sense.

That RV neighborhood is just as wealthy as the rest of 22152 and has a similar demographic as the rest of WSHS.

DP. Whenever the school board hears that a community doesn’t want something, they immediately pretend that there is some other silent community who wants the opposite. That way, they can justify screwing over the first community.

For the most part, they just keep revising the proposals to reflect the last group of noisy parents who chewed their ear off. Not sure the end result will be anything like what they claimed they wanted to accomplish.

Comprehensive boundary review is a shitty game of musical chairs.

Every boundary review is musical chairs because every boundary review shifts seats in a zero sum environment.

That's an odd statement. How is it a zero sum environment when they get money every few years for capital projects and boundary changes can be one-way? It's not like they move kids out of every school they move kids into.

School A loses 100 kids.

School B receives the 100 kids.

-100 from school A

+

+100 to school B

=

0

Or School L loses 20 kids

+

School WS gains 80 kids

= + 60 kids

Or

School JM loses 90 kids

+

School GCM gains 60 kids

= - 30 kids

The kids don’t magically cease to exist with a boundary change. They go to a different school.

If you want to talk general patterns of population/enrollment shifting, that’s a different point all together.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving kids to west springfield from lewis?

Moving the Rolling Valley Lewis students to WSHS and moving other neighborhoods out of WSHS to make room for the Lewis kids has been the Springfield representative's biggest rezoning priority since FCPS started revising policy 8130.

So who is it? Which family supported Anderson or is close to Anderson’s family if this is the case?

We were told that she was advocating for this group because some groups can’t organize and spend time advocating like our group. It was a very surprising statement, because we are also households of busy working parents, who are federal workers, military, teachers, etc. We don’t have any more resources than this RVES pocket.

So, equity??

That doesn't make sense.

That RV neighborhood is just as wealthy as the rest of 22152 and has a similar demographic as the rest of WSHS.

DP. Whenever the school board hears that a community doesn’t want something, they immediately pretend that there is some other silent community who wants the opposite. That way, they can justify screwing over the first community.

For the most part, they just keep revising the proposals to reflect the last group of noisy parents who chewed their ear off. Not sure the end result will be anything like what they claimed they wanted to accomplish.

Comprehensive boundary review is a shitty game of musical chairs.

Every boundary review is musical chairs because every boundary review shifts seats in a zero sum environment.

That's an odd statement. How is it a zero sum environment when they get money every few years for capital projects and boundary changes can be one-way? It's not like they move kids out of every school they move kids into.

School A loses 100 kids.

School B receives the 100 kids.

-100 from school A

+

+100 to school B

=

0

Or School L loses 20 kids

+

School WS gains 80 kids

= + 60 kids

Or

School JM loses 90 kids

+

School GCM gains 60 kids

= - 30 kids

The kids don’t magically cease to exist with a boundary change. They go to a different school.

If you want to talk general patterns of population/enrollment shifting, that’s a different point all together.

DP. I know families who have ceased to exist in Fairfax county schools because of the boundary review.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving kids to west springfield from lewis?

Moving the Rolling Valley Lewis students to WSHS and moving other neighborhoods out of WSHS to make room for the Lewis kids has been the Springfield representative's biggest rezoning priority since FCPS started revising policy 8130.

So who is it? Which family supported Anderson or is close to Anderson’s family if this is the case?

We were told that she was advocating for this group because some groups can’t organize and spend time advocating like our group. It was a very surprising statement, because we are also households of busy working parents, who are federal workers, military, teachers, etc. We don’t have any more resources than this RVES pocket.

So, equity??

That doesn't make sense.

That RV neighborhood is just as wealthy as the rest of 22152 and has a similar demographic as the rest of WSHS.

DP. Whenever the school board hears that a community doesn’t want something, they immediately pretend that there is some other silent community who wants the opposite. That way, they can justify screwing over the first community.

For the most part, they just keep revising the proposals to reflect the last group of noisy parents who chewed their ear off. Not sure the end result will be anything like what they claimed they wanted to accomplish.

Comprehensive boundary review is a shitty game of musical chairs.

Every boundary review is musical chairs because every boundary review shifts seats in a zero sum environment.

That's an odd statement. How is it a zero sum environment when they get money every few years for capital projects and boundary changes can be one-way? It's not like they move kids out of every school they move kids into.

School A loses 100 kids.

School B receives the 100 kids.

-100 from school A

+

+100 to school B

=

0

Or School L loses 20 kids

+

School WS gains 80 kids

= + 60 kids

Or

School JM loses 90 kids

+

School GCM gains 60 kids

= - 30 kids

The kids don’t magically cease to exist with a boundary change. They go to a different school.

If you want to talk general patterns of population/enrollment shifting, that’s a different point all together.

DP. I know families who have ceased to exist in Fairfax county schools because of the boundary review.

Cool story. Not the issue being discussed though. If you’d like to change the subject, have fun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving kids to west springfield from lewis?

Moving the Rolling Valley Lewis students to WSHS and moving other neighborhoods out of WSHS to make room for the Lewis kids has been the Springfield representative's biggest rezoning priority since FCPS started revising policy 8130.

So who is it? Which family supported Anderson or is close to Anderson’s family if this is the case?

We were told that she was advocating for this group because some groups can’t organize and spend time advocating like our group. It was a very surprising statement, because we are also households of busy working parents, who are federal workers, military, teachers, etc. We don’t have any more resources than this RVES pocket.

So, equity??

That doesn't make sense.

That RV neighborhood is just as wealthy as the rest of 22152 and has a similar demographic as the rest of WSHS.

DP. Whenever the school board hears that a community doesn’t want something, they immediately pretend that there is some other silent community who wants the opposite. That way, they can justify screwing over the first community.

For the most part, they just keep revising the proposals to reflect the last group of noisy parents who chewed their ear off. Not sure the end result will be anything like what they claimed they wanted to accomplish.

Comprehensive boundary review is a shitty game of musical chairs.

Every boundary review is musical chairs because every boundary review shifts seats in a zero sum environment.

That's an odd statement. How is it a zero sum environment when they get money every few years for capital projects and boundary changes can be one-way? It's not like they move kids out of every school they move kids into.

School A loses 100 kids.

School B receives the 100 kids.

-100 from school A

+

+100 to school B

=

0

Or School L loses 20 kids

+

School WS gains 80 kids

= + 60 kids

Or

School JM loses 90 kids

+

School GCM gains 60 kids

= - 30 kids

The kids don’t magically cease to exist with a boundary change. They go to a different school.

If you want to talk general patterns of population/enrollment shifting, that’s a different point all together.

DP. I know families who have ceased to exist in Fairfax county schools because of the boundary review.

Cool story. Not the issue being discussed though. If you’d like to change the subject, have fun.

That’s exactly the issue here. Too bad you couldn’t keep up.

[Anonymous]

Another DP in the WS conversation regarding the swap of neighborhoods into and out of the high school. I was in one meeting where Sandy was asked about this and she flat out told the person asking “just because you’re loud doesn’t mean you’ll win. You’re lucky you’re not getting rezoned to Lewis and you have a great school as your new school”. As a former SA supporter, that completely changed my opinion of her. #1 as a school board member you should never. Ever. Call out a school like that And #2. It felt almost like a threat to stop fighting back on the changes because the more people asked and questioned the less likely they would get what they wanted. I was expecting, at least, a fake politician that would pretend to hear the constituents concerns, but instead it felt dismissive and rude. Because of that exchange I have since felt that no matter when the public says or comments on those maps, the decisions have already been made.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another DP in the WS conversation regarding the swap of neighborhoods into and out of the high school. I was in one meeting where Sandy was asked about this and she flat out told the person asking “just because you’re loud doesn’t mean you’ll win. You’re lucky you’re not getting rezoned to Lewis and you have a great school as your new school”. As a former SA supporter, that completely changed my opinion of her. #1 as a school board member you should never. Ever. Call out a school like that And #2. It felt almost like a threat to stop fighting back on the changes because the more people asked and questioned the less likely they would get what they wanted. I was expecting, at least, a fake politician that would pretend to hear the constituents concerns, but instead it felt dismissive and rude. Because of that exchange I have since felt that no matter when the public says or comments on those maps, the decisions have already been made.

Wow. Talk about clueless.

I don't claim to be the brightest bulb, but I know better than to keep from throwing dirt on another school.