Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gasoline is kept in the garage or a shed out back. No one keeps it anywhere else. That doesn't really suggest intimate knowledge.

Someone knew they had gasoline-some people do not have it-especially wealthy ones who hire landscapers who bring their own-why would the Savos need gasoline-except to power the kids go-kart?

Or they just brought their own gas? Who knows where the gas came from?

[Anonymous]

Ordering pizza at midnight is insane-was there no food in the house? That is brazen-people are so effed up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gasoline is kept in the garage or a shed out back. No one keeps it anywhere else. That doesn't really suggest intimate knowledge.

I don't keep gasoline. I guess if you have a lawnmower you might, but the family had a gardening service, so I am not sure they would necessarily keep gasoline either. They either had knowledge of the family and the gasoline (if they intended all along to start the fire) or they didn't know about the gasoline at all and stumbled upon it. I feel like they were stupid crooks without regard for life who watched CSI or something and decided they could cover up the evidence with a fire. THe fact the person drives a Porsche around for hours suggests these guys were not bright. And of course the pizza delivery.

Except they managed to disable the house security alarm, security cameras and the fire alarms without the alarm company knowing. They seemed awfully brazen to me in regards to everything they did

[Anonymous]

Newest update Washington Post:

"The documents show a flurry of phone calls among Savvas Savopoulos, a bank, an accountant, the personal assistant, a construction company executive and Savopoulos’s American Iron Works company in the hours before the fire. The calls started shortly after 7 a.m. May 14 and ended just before noon. The fire was reported at 1:15 p.m.

The assistant, who did not return messages left on his cellphone Wednesday, tried to call Savvas Savopoulos about 1:40 p.m. but got no answer, the police documents show. Savvas Savopoulos had called the assistant at 11:54 a.m. — the last incoming or outgoing call he made or answered before the fire."

To me, there is a strong inference that Savvas was still desperately trying to raise MORE money for the killers after the assistant had dropped off the package of cash. I've always thought these people simply killed to eliminate witnesses. They killed brutally because they are brutes (and may not have wanted to risk carrying a gun or, if they had a gun, have shots heard -- silencers are spy story stuff). However, this makes me think that some of the brutality was anger and frustration by the killers when they realized they couldn't get more money in a short time period.

[Anonymous]

Also in the same Washington Post article:

"Gutierrez said she knew nothing about the money that was dropped off May 14 and said that she had never seen the assistant or anyone else drop off cash to the Savopoulos home in the 20 years she had worked there."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also in the same Washington Post article:

"Gutierrez said she knew nothing about the money that was dropped off May 14 and said that she had never seen the assistant or anyone else drop off cash to the Savopoulos home in the 20 years she had worked there."

WHAT?!

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know the name of the landscaping/lawn company who came on Thursday?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gasoline is kept in the garage or a shed out back. No one keeps it anywhere else. That doesn't really suggest intimate knowledge.

I don't keep gasoline. I guess if you have a lawnmower you might, but the family had a gardening service, so I am not sure they would necessarily keep gasoline either. They either had knowledge of the family and the gasoline (if they intended all along to start the fire) or they didn't know about the gasoline at all and stumbled upon it. I feel like they were stupid crooks without regard for life who watched CSI or something and decided they could cover up the evidence with a fire. THe fact the person drives a Porsche around for hours suggests these guys were not bright. And of course the pizza delivery.

I thought the son with into go-carts. Would you keep gas around for one of those?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also in the same Washington Post article:

"Gutierrez said she knew nothing about the money that was dropped off May 14 and said that she had never seen the assistant or anyone else drop off cash to the Savopoulos home in the 20 years she had worked there."

Did she change her story?

[Anonymous]

Maybe it was done by some thug teenagers who was only had knives and did not own a gun. Just find some rich people. Break in, order pizza, torture them for money, start a fire (because they watch CSI) and leave. Thugs have killed people for a lot less. Some poor teenage girl in NJ was shot the head even after handing her IPhone to a thug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also in the same Washington Post article:

"Gutierrez said she knew nothing about the money that was dropped off May 14 and said that she had never seen the assistant or anyone else drop off cash to the Savopoulos home in the 20 years she had worked there."

Could you link this article please? That's sort of explosive coupled with the other things she's said.

[Anonymous]

I just saw a report. There was crime tape behind two vehicles in the driveway parked outside of the garage. A white SUV, a red sports car, another vehicle in the garage, couldn't see if any vehicles were parked in front of the SUV inside the garage.

The housekeeper took the bus to the house Wednesday and was supposed to leave at 3 to catch the bus home. NG drove to the martial arts studio and met Phillip there.

Gutierrez drove with Savvas Savopoulus to his new studio in Chantilly, Virginia, which he was getting ready for a new opening. He was supposed to stay there until 7 p.m. but said had to go home at 5 p.m., telling Gutierrez that he had to go home and take care of his son Phillip, who was injured in a go-kart accident, because his wife Amy was going out that night.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-mysterious-hours-leading-dc-mansion-fire-raise/story?id=31159620

Someone from the studio confirmed seeing Phillip there at 6 pm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also in the same Washington Post article:

"Gutierrez said she knew nothing about the money that was dropped off May 14 and said that she had never seen the assistant or anyone else drop off cash to the Savopoulos home in the 20 years she had worked there."

WHAT?!

Several earlier posters have cautioned about the high error rate in a lot of the early reports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How did the perps get to the house in the first place?

That hasn't been revealed.

[Anonymous]

Paul Wagner @Fox5Wagner · 7h 7 hours ago
New: Housekeeper says money was to be used for opening of a martial arts center in Chantilly. She says cash deliveries were common.